The Lion 716 Share Posted April 20, 2017 It’s 2017 now and I don’t have time to play the game that often, but I do have the time to write for LotC. My aim is to expand the universe and make existing lore more accessible to the general knowledge of the server. I like making connections between lore to create new lore and using that new lore to explain the LotC Universe in a way that makes sense to at least me. So pardon me as I now begin. I’ve never tried to implement lore before in all my years on the server and probably didn't even need to post this topic in this section. The following is probably already approved lore in some respects. It’s kind of scary to publish my work to be honest. I’m anxious I’ll be denied and the hours I’ve spent thinking about this game will actually be a 100% waste of time. I know I write pretty well at this point in life and I’ve always held these ideas in my head as I’ve played since 2011. Writing them down now is the only way I’ll feel like I haven’t just wasted my time coming to love this server and all the creativity it allows me to vent over the years. In-fact a lot of Lore added in recent times holds the same beliefs about this made up universe of LotC that I always have had. Encouraging and motivating me to write 18 pages and counting about additional lore to explain the questions I'm about to leave you with. Those pages all hinging on this lore-piece. References to existing lore used to create this post: https://wikia.lordofthecraft.net/index.php?title=Ancient_History https://wikia.lordofthecraft.net/index.php?title=Shamanism https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/114626-the-ancient-hansetians/ https://wikia.lordofthecraft.net/index.php?title=Asulon https://wikia.lordofthecraft.net/index.php?title=Soul_Puppetry https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/139713-the-planes-of-existence-world-lore https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/146219-world-lore-the-sunless-sanctum/ https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/151740-%E2%9C%93-gap-theory/ https://wikia.lordofthecraft.net/index.php?title=Haelun'or The aims of this lore-piece is to expand on existing widely-referenced lore taken from the Ancient Historical record of the User Availer and other Users with implemented lore. If approved, more World-lore will be expanded upon to explain even more details about what you’ll read as this lore-piece was intentionally written to leave questions. Questions that can and will be answered in more detail in successive posts. TL;DR Humans were cursed by Iblees to be short-lived. Humans were blessed by Aengul to “explore the Seven Skies” as a counter to the curse Aegis Humans for some reason rarely investigated what that meant Asulon Humans chose to figure it out instead Ancient Hansetians were successful. They indeed explored the Seven Skies However, the Ancient Hansetians and all their knowledge was buried before year 1300 Buried again, but under the sea in the year 1414 The Author hints at further expanding the LotC Universe using existing lore if approved. This lore makes possible: (Lost) Ancient Hansetian knowledge that allowed them to connect to the Seven Skies in their day. (Lost) Ancient Hansetian knowledge that allowed them to perform Life-Essence Magic in their day. The posting of more information building off these concepts for the benefit of the server. The creation of sophisticated story-arcs to be moderated by the Server Staff. IF APPROVED, THIS LORE WILL NOT ALLOW CURRENT HUMAN CHARACTERS TO USE THEIR BLESSING WITHOUT LEARNING HOW TO FIRST FROM ULTIMATE WIZARDS THAT ARE PROBABLY ALREADY DEAD. ACCESSING THE SKILL REQUIRES FURTHER LORE TO UNDERSTAND AND ACCOMPLISH. A FEAT THAT WOULD TAKE LIKE 10 YEARS OF A CHARACTER'S LIFE TO LEARN AT LEAST. The Aengul's Blessing to Humanity Without further pratting on, it is from the first Lore piece published to the Server I start with and quote: As soon as his words were uttered, the world grew suddenly dark. A great roar erupted from Iblees' mouth and in a blast of fire he was banished from the Mortal World. The robed figure stood before the four brothers. "There is nothing in my power that may undo what that evil did. There is one thing I may do however, and that is to bless you. "Malin, may your forests be a sanctuary of peace and your children long lived. "Urguan, may your descendants be hardy, strong hearted and strong of mind. "Krug, may your people show valour and honour where none exist. "And Horen, may your people one day explore the Seven Skies. "I can do no more, for all my power is spent. We will go back to our master now, I believe your children may see us once more but long in the future." And with that, the great host of Aenguls and Daemons disappeared into thin wisps in the air. The Aengul of Light is described by Availer’s account as a robed figure, some suspect this figure is in-fact Availer himself. Those of Aegis widely believed the Aengul to be Aeriel and those of Asulon unanimously believed it to be the Aengul Celestia. All three interpretations represented Light in each culture. Regardless of who the Aengul of Light was, one thing remains clear: Humanity’s blessing from the Aengul to “One day explore the Seven Skies” appears largely ignored and purposefully hidden from Humans by the Users of the day. There’s a lot of chatter about The Curses of Iblees in our implemented lore, but very little about The Blessings of Light. The Aengul’s blessing was a response to counterbalance the curse they received from the Daemon Iblees, “To age quickly and die early”, “Be sterile and lack children”, “Never be satisfied” and “Filled with Lust for War”. The curses are straight-forward and given wide evidence of being true among Users. There are few elves on the server. Dwarves have gone through more regime changes than all other Users. Orcs have gone to war so many times they are fewer than the elven Users. Finally, humans rise and fall like weeds in the grass and actually rival the dwarven regime's changes due to their short-lived personas. Yet, the blessings are less straight-forward. Most likely done on purpose to leave Users wondering what their racial blessing actually did for them to counter these curses. Humans in this vagueness began to worship the concept of the Creator’s Seven Skies and the Church was born. The other three races had less trouble understanding how their blessings worked as time went on. Elves lived for centuries. Dwarves have always stuck to their own direction and had the most loot. Orcs are usually always confident and stick to rigid honour codes and in the past won the wars they started. Yet Humans have remained ignorant of their true blessing and stopped looking for answers they couldn’t comprehend. In favour of just calling God and hanging up their intellectual towel instead. Pretty much abandoning anything that has to do with magic as means of explanation. Their folly, not mine. This doesn’t mean that all humans stayed ignorant of their blessing. Significant Human Users have utilized the blessing in modern history, but they are few and far between. Unlike the Ancient Hansetian (AH) people of Asulon who were widely able to discover a secret in days long gone: They could explore the Seven Skies and communicate with Souls to gain wisdom, clarity and knowledge by constructing powerful magic devices. To lend to the fact that spirit interaction is possible, look to Aegis. The Orcs had long figured out they could communicate with spirits. There’s evidence of this ability in Shamanistic practices whereby Shamans project their soul to communicate with other spirits of Apohet’s Realm. Yet, the blessing extends beyond mere realms and boasts of all Seven Skies. AH went beyond the Realms of Aemon like the Daemon Apohet’s Spirit Realm and explored the Seven Skies as they were permitted to by the Aengul of Light. How was this even possible? It was discovered in the ancient days of magic when there were no rules. When Hanseti was in its infancy in Asulon as a tribal civilization it was found that souls could be accessed and communicated with through ritual magic. Great advancements then went into the understanding of the Force of Soul in Asulon by these human pioneers. Breakthroughs allowed many of the most talented in Asulon the ability to comprehend Soul instead of blacking out the experiences. It’s even speculated that Larihei's High-Elves of Asulon were in on the Ancient Hansetian enlightenment to some degree. For the two civilizations have similarly aligning beliefs about the Universe and both reference Asulon as their Motherland (we'll expand on that in another post). The AH recalled their experiences as dream-like projections where their soul entered the Seven Skies through rituals, later augmented by magical and scientific devices. This started a spiritual awakening among AH and they began to search the Seven Skies for connections to different Realms and gained unprecedented information about the Universe’s secrets to further their ability and aims. The Ancient Hansetians visited the Immortal Planes and learned that Aemon did indeed operate in a hierarchy based on who had more access to Power and recorded such things. This hierarchy generated among the Seven Skies that the immortal beings existed in. With the most powerful Aemon existing on the First Sky most attached to the Creator's Origin and the least powerful Aemon on the furthest away strata in the Seventh Sky. Lesser Aemon were banding together for power on the lower tiers whereas major Aemon like the Aengul of Light had a majority of the 1st Sky alone to illustrate the difference of distance. It’s from this discovery that Ancient Hansetians and most likely Larihei's Elves were able to reach new conclusions about the nature of the universe. More than Availer or the Church could offer. With this, they formulated their own interpretation of the Origin of the Universe. The AH recording their knowledge in the since lost Omnichronicle. Yet, none could foresee that Hanseti would also discover a way to harvest life essence as well by exploring their blessing. Which ultimately led to their undoing in Asulon. The long forgotten Ancient Hansetians had indeed discovered a way to manipulate the soul beyond that of communication early in their tribal days. Becoming the first known Users of Life-Essence magic. A terrible and dark magical practice which still exists today in various forms such as Soul Puppetry (which cites its origin from a nameless tribe of Asulon. There were only three tribes known in Asulon; The Dervas, Subudai and Hansetians). Fortunately, the knowledge of Life-Essence manipulation is mostly lost. In-fact as is the knowledge needed to utilize Humanity's Blessing to the degree the Ancient Hansetians used it. Both understandings lost after the Great Collapse ended the First Age and most of life on Asulon. Thus putting communications between bound and unbound souls at an all-time low at the start of the Current Age. Even the Orc Shamans began to dwindle in their spiritual exploration after the Great Collapse. Perhaps after studying the information left behind by Ancient Hansetians and Larihei's elves, we’ll be provided with more answers regarding the Universe’s origins. Too bad their land was swallowed by the sea in the year 1414. If only there were recovered artifacts still out there… Concluding Notes Humanity’s blessing to one day explore the Seven Skies was vague, but the Ancient Hansetians of Asulon figured out how it could be done. Allowing them to discover Life-based magic and communicate with souls living in the the Seven Skies. Sadly however, this knowledge was lost to time after the Great Collapse ended most civilizations on both Aegis and Asulon. Only slight evidence still exists that shows the discoveries of the advanced Ancient Hansetians. Current Hansetians have no connection to the Ancient Hansetians except for artifacts recovered in Asulon. The two civilizations merely share the name and nothing else. Meaning that this lore-expansion is intended to be used as an introduction to write about a lost civilization, The Ancient Hanseti. I choose to write from this lore-perspective because Ancient Hanseti is a largely unknown civilization that’s been part of LOTC lore since September 2011. I’d like to simultaneously expand upon them. None of the information in this post can actually be used IG without proper development and expansion on the ideas presented. Since I rarely actually play the game, I have no intention on using this lore for IG gain. I enjoy writing and have been part of this server since the start. I’d like to just expand the LOTC universe now instead of play. This post is merely to point out clarifications on the existing lore and give me an approved backbone to publish 18 more pages of lore that hinge on Ancient Hansetians understanding how to use their blessing. Guilty Until Proven Innocent I’m stating this now only because I know how the server works and if I don’t say it now, I’ll never get a chance to at all: Perhaps I’m a ignorant-gubbins, but I tried to make this piece logical. I studied all the information I could find out there and fully referenced existing lore I could access to create this. Doing very little innovating except the use of Asulon's perspective as a means to connect the dots. I also wrote this in a way that disallows current Users from using the blessing even though they totally can, have and will (that's just LotC, son). I’d be surprised by the Lore-Team if they denied this lore because it's already been in server use for literal years by multiple races, but I would not be angry. I'd just wonder how you could deny that the blessing to “explore the Seven Skies” meant anything other than Humans being blessed to learn beyond the physical realm and explore the Seven Skies which are a wholesomely spiritual plane of existence according to Benbo’s Planes of Existence Lore which built off Availer's Creation Lore. Humanity has barely developed any ancient history by being told in the past they’re not good enough to communicate with spirits like the Orcs, Dwarves and Elves do (or they've just been lazy in developing anything public. Which is mostly likely the case). Leaving them to rely on secret lore-posts made in secret google docs that they'll cite when you proclaim Raevs were actually mutated Northerons or something equally hilarious (which they totally are). Yet, the LotC lore-setting has it posited that all records were erased before the year 1300 due to a Great Collapse of Civilization. Which would make communication with souls one of the only way characters could know of Ancient History beyond the accounts of the few like Availer. Beyond word-of-mouth story telling like the Orcs used to develop Shamanism IC. I’m willing to be given new information to change my mind on the matter and welcome a healthy discussion from anyone who wants to object to this lore. I ask that only chill members of the Lore Team deal with me because that's the level I want to stay on. I'm not trying to be your enemy, I want to be your friend. The world is more pleasant that way. Anyways, Thanks for reading. I hope to write to you again. EDIT: Wrote to you again. Here's follow-up lore: 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorusPrime 130 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Wait, what? What exactly is a "User"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpodoKaiba 607 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I like the idea But one question; what happens if a human with this magic becomes something like a Lich or Archon? Can they no longer use it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lion 716 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, KorusPrime said: Wait, what? What exactly is a "User"? This made me immediately smile to read. Don't you worry, I've written 434 words on The Users for you. I'll post it soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lion 716 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Spoduminister said: I like the idea But one question; what happens if a human with this magic becomes something like a Lich or Archon? Can they no longer use it? Damn. I'm only double posting so that Spoduminister is notified and doesn't feel like I forgot them. Also, I need to update my references with this one: Honestly I read so much Lore that I forgot if Liches and Archons fall into Superior Souls or Undead category. Turns out they're Transcendent Souls: If that in mind, I can draw a few conclusions now, but will surely expand on later in more detail now that it's been brought to my attention. The likes of Liches and Archons could potentially connect to the Seven Skies as they're still in possession of a soul and as we've learned all souls are inherently the same with the only difference revolving around the degree to which they're bound to the planes of the Universe (immortal/mortal planes). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
senor_tortuga 692 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Neato 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
excited 10833 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I enjoyed this a lot. But I also don't believe Liches would be able to cast this without carrying their phylactery, a device that stores their soul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lion 716 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Aerial "The Wroth" Kebabu said: I enjoyed this a lot. But I also don't believe Liches would be able to cast this without carrying their phylactery, a device that stores their soul. Drunk lore reply? I think you wanted a drunk reply, right? Having literally just read this; I am still a novice on the topic of Liches even though I've been slaying them for years. I've concluded that these Transcendent Souls like Liches do in-fact have the potential to access the Seven Skies. Though, they must be in control (or possession) of their own soul and able to have free will over it to reach this potential. In essence, a soul that is trapped by its own logical puzzles will not be able to access the Seven Skies. Much like someone who's in prison cannot use their soulstone to escape. I can most definitely say those without souls cannot enter the Seven Skies. That much is apparent, but I see for no reason why a Lich in control of its soul couldn't decide to connect to the Seven Skies if it made one. Even if a soul is not in control, a more powerful soul than it or the director of said soul could provide means for the Transcendent Soul to witness the Seven Skies. Even bound souls to the physical plane can eventually figure out a way to become unbound and connect with the Seven Skies. This is the basis for the entire post. Ancient Hansetians figured out how to get their Bound Souls of the Mortal Plane to interact with Unbound Souls of the Immortal Plane much like Orcish Shamans. If you're speaking with ethereal beings without a physical form, you've most likely already met the prerequisites required to connect to the Seven Skies. The only thing missing is how to do so. If my answer didn't feel good enough or you have ideas to state contrary facts, please do so. I never actually considered any other type of Soul other than Mortal Souls and Immortal Souls when writing this, but will do my best to piece us all in together to reach some sort of consensus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
excited 10833 Share Posted April 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, A Wandering Wizard said: Drunk lore reply? I think you wanted a drunk reply, right? Having literally just read this; I am still a novice on the topic of Liches even though I've been slaying them for years. I've concluded that these Transcendent Souls like Liches do in-fact have the potential to access the Seven Skies. Though, they must be in control (or possession) of their own soul and able to have free will over it to reach this potential. In essence, a soul that is trapped by its own logical puzzles will not be able to access the Seven Skies. Much like someone who's in prison cannot use their soulstone to escape. I can most definitely say those without souls cannot enter the Seven Skies. That much is apparent, but I see for no reason why a Lich in control of its soul couldn't decide to connect to the Seven Skies if it made one. Even if a soul is not in control, a more powerful soul than it or the director of said soul could provide means for the Transcendent Soul to witness the Seven Skies. Even bound souls to the physical plane can eventually figure out a way to become unbound and connect with the Seven Skies. This is the basis for the entire post. Ancient Hansetians figured out how to get their Bound Souls of the Mortal Plane to interact with Unbound Souls of the Immortal Plane much like Orcish Shamans. If you're speaking with ethereal beings without a physical form, you've most likely already met the prerequisites required to connect to the Seven Skies. The only thing missing is how to do so. If my answer didn't feel good enough or you have ideas to state contrary facts, please do so. I never actually considered any other type of Soul other than Mortal Souls and Immortal Souls when writing this, but will do my best to piece us all in together to reach some sort of consensus. Well yeah, that's all fine and dandy but what I was saying was that a Lich has no soul apart from its phylactery, that's the object that it's contained inside. That's why I assumed a Lich created out of a human would need to carry the phylactery while practicing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lion 716 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Aerial "The Wroth" Kebabu said: Well yeah, that's all fine and dandy but what I was saying was that a Lich has no soul apart from its phylactery, that's the object that it's contained inside. That's why I assumed a Lich created out of a human would need to carry the phylactery while practicing. Aye. I gathered that a Lich has a soul put into this phylactery object. I imagine that if their soul is bound to the object, they would indeed need to be in possession of it to practice connecting to the Seven Skies. You are correct in your summation. Yet, there is new Creation Lore created as of 20 mins ago that might slightly change things. It pretty much tells me a fancy version of the same story told by Availer+the addition of the Veil and Voidal Horrors and the origin of the sun and stars. Yet, they cite that the Creator only made souls for the Mortals which drastically messes up my life. I'm sure it was an oversight because there were instances where something wasn't actually explained in unforeseen lore post. I won't let it affect the lore I've already written for the IC as it's OOC information anyways. I'm still a little dismayed that it seems like all they did was combine our IRL understanding of the Universes' creation with the Lore of LotC, but I was about to do something similar anyways with my next few major posts. It just seemed like they jumped the gun on a lot of it instead of gradually working us to the same point, but I completely get the reasoning for the post from a Lore Writing perspective. Perhaps the Ancient Hansetians informed them of what to write. Yet, literary digression avoids the main point of this response to which I answered a paragraph ago. *Edited message to be more understanding of the LT and the newest Creation Lore posted by Pink Lion whom I wrongly accused of being inconsiderate of player's rights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
senor_tortuga 692 Share Posted April 20, 2017 why isnt this dude on lore team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lion 716 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 19 minutes ago, senor_tortuga said: why isnt this dude on lore team I never applied, but it makes me smile to hear that you think I could be. Yet, hold your compliments. You've seen nothing yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swgrclan 2633 Share Posted April 21, 2017 To affirm anything of the discussion on Liches, I can point out with certainty that they do not access the Seven Skies if they were humans. Their soul is rejected when it traverses the Soul Stream to its center, and left as an outcast to roam the barren wastes of Ebriaetas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tea with Gwyn 217 Share Posted April 21, 2017 hamon overdrive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avacyn 1706 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I certainly didn't expect something like this coming out of you. I like it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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