Mullraugh 313 Share Posted November 5, 2017 This is a proposal submission to remove the three human races that are Heartlander, Highlander and Farfolk. Though they work adequately, I feel that more of an emphasis on your character's culture and ethnicity should be placed on a player so that they can have a more well-rounded and realistic character to work with. If this lore submission is not accepted, let it still stand as an accurate categorization for future reference. After some consideration I feel that you can place the human cultures and ethnicities into three main categories. I've taken to calling these "Suthroners, Northerners and Farfolk," since Farfolk still works quite well as a name. The "???" represents an IRL culture that either has no LotC equivalent or I just don't know the name of it. Please input your knowledge if applicable! Suthroners: (Western European Cultures) ??? - English, Welsh, Irish Auvergnian - French, Swiss, I daresay Flemish Daelish - Celts, Scots Waldenian - German, Austrian, Swiss, Bavarian, etc Almannir - Rhineland Haense (Teutons) - Prussian Cordobonese - Spanish, Portugese Illatian - Italian Northerners: (Eastern European Cultures) Raevir/Ruskan - Russian, Ukrainian, Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Belorussian, Pasnian - Polish Carnatian - Slovakian, Czechnian? ??? - Norse Lodenlander - Dutch ??? - Swedish, Finnish Suthron-Farfolk (Mediterranean) Akritian - Greek Hulphonite - Israeli (loosely) Farfolk (Middle-Eastern, African and Asian Cultures) Qalasheen - Arabian Easterner - Asian Turkins - Turkish Ottoman ??? - Indian ??? - African Azghari/Subudai - Mongols, Huns 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedgeHug 2045 Share Posted November 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, Mullraugh said: This is a proposal submission to remove the three human races that are Heartlander, Highlander and Farfolk. I can recall a plugin suggestion not long ago that would work with this. Remove the subtypes of human race - race is set to be just "human" for all of them They will then have a 'culture' slot on the character profile card which can specify their subculture. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderssn 1115 Share Posted November 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, Mullraugh said: Daelish - Scots I'd say they're more generally like Celts 21 minutes ago, Mullraugh said: ??? - Norse There has been a few, Norland started kind of Norse I believe, then there were the infamous Faolains who are the ancestors of House Vallberg who were basically christian Swedes. 21 minutes ago, Mullraugh said: ??? - Spanish, Portugese Luciensport/holy land in Vailor was Mediterranean based. 21 minutes ago, Mullraugh said: ??? - Italian House Visconti/Nicator, can't remember what the culture was called tho, created by Gaiusmarius. 21 minutes ago, Mullraugh said: ??? - Turkish Ottoman There was a Turkish group in Lorraine as well, lead by Semihilyus but I don't remember the name of the culture. And Addition: Azghari and Subudai - Mongols, Huns. Just to fill up your list =) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herculean_wud 3656 Share Posted November 5, 2017 hulphonite - loose israeli Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullraugh 313 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just now, HedgeHug said: I can recall a plugin suggestion not long ago that would work with this. Remove the subtypes of human race - race is set to be just "human" for all of them They will then have a 'culture' slot on the character profile card which can specify their subculture. 0 Upvote I agree. 1 minute ago, Patu/SaintPaint said: I'd say they're more generally like Celts There has been a few, Norland started kind of Norse I believe, then there were the infamous Faolains who are the ancestors of House Vallberg who were basically christian Swedes. Luciensport/holy land in Vailor was Mediterranean based. House Visconti/Nicator, can't remember what the culture was called tho, created by Gaiusmarius. There was a Turkish group in Lorraine as well, lead by Semihilyus but I don't remember the name of the culture. And Addition: Azghari and Subudai - Mongols, Huns. Just to fill up your list =) 0 Upvote 1 minute ago, Grubgoth Wud said: hulphonite - loose israeli 0 Upvote Thank you for the information. I'll update the list shortly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy 1578 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Heartlander, Highlander, and Farfolk work just fine and are already integrated into rp and lore. These classification serve to group together various cultures and ethnicities that bear either similar or related lore, and also cut back the need for every culture to receive its own character card race. Character cards shouldn't be used for anything more than what can be figured out from a glance at a character, and culture should especially be emphasized via roleplay as it is not always immediately apparent. Heartlander - Western and Southern European Highlander - Northern and Eastern European Farfolk - Non-European Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullraugh 313 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Fishy said: Heartlander, Highlander, and Farfolk work just fine and are already integrated into rp and lore. These classification serve to group together various cultures and ethnicities that bear either similar or related lore, and also cut back the need for every culture to receive its own character card race. Character cards shouldn't be used for anything more than what can be figured out from a glance at a character, and culture should especially be emphasized via roleplay as it is not always immediately apparent. Heartlander - Western and Southern European Highlander - Northern and Eastern European Farfolk - Non-European 0 Upvote Though I agree to an extent, I believe that Culture should be a part of a player's character card, because there are things that simply cannot be roleplayed all that well - either due to inexperience on the person's behalf, or just general difficulty. Things like accents, etiquette, verbal patterns, and such are difficult to effectively roleplay unless you spend minutes writing a large block of text for each action your character takes. While this is encouraged, most people don't put in the effort, or simply mess things up. Adding a culture to your character card would simply help others get to know your character a little better and fill in the gap that's left due to lack of effort or poor RP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endovelicus 610 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Italian is Illatian Turkish are the Turkins Greek is Akritian Spanish is Cordobonese I believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullraugh 313 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, FitzRoy__ said: Italian is Illatian Turkish are the Turkins Greek is Akritian Spanish is Cordobonese I believe 0 Upvote abcabcabcabc Thanks, I'll add those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endovelicus 610 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Also, Lodenlanders are dutch, don't let the batavians fool you they're fake news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 12836 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, HedgeHug said: I can recall a plugin suggestion not long ago that would work with this. Remove the subtypes of human race - race is set to be just "human" for all of them They will then have a 'culture' slot on the character profile card which can specify their subculture. Nice try *HedgeHug*, but no true Orenian will ever accept the subraces being reclassified as cultures. There's a place for every race. EDIT: Wtf they censored echo brackets. Edited November 5, 2017 by James2k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reckless Banzai Screamer 11575 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Mullraugh said: Farfolk (Middle-Eastern, African and Asian Cultures) Harian - Arabian? 2 Upvote Harian is the nationality which includes everyone that lives in Haria that is not farfolk. The culture and ethnic group of focus though is "Qalasheen". Asians are generally called "Easterners". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z3r05t4r 854 Share Posted November 5, 2017 What about the Almannir (ie, Stafyrs, Hanethors if they are still around, are Almannir)? In perspective, the Almannir (that speak straight up German) are closely related to Hansetian per say, Rhinelandic comparably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullraugh 313 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, Bad Guy Shady said: Harian is the nationality which includes everyone that lives in Haria that is not farfolk. The culture and ethnic group of focus though is "Qalasheen". Asians are generally called "Easterners". 0 Upvote abcabcabc Thanks for that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabah 156 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Mounsidians - Haiti Creole (for farfolk) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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