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We were promised that this stupid rule would be amended in the new forum rules so that people couldn't post ban reports then suppress evidence that doesn't support their argument.

 

This rule could easily be replaced by one that lets the accused post their own list of "players involved" that would allow that list of players to post. if the person who posted the ban report takes issue with any of the players on that list then they could contact a GM about it. This puts the burden of proof on the accuser rather than the accused and possible third parties.

 

please if at all possible amend this rule so that sanity can again be restored to the ban report court. 

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Good idea. In order to fix this rule we must spend 3 months debating a minor word change.

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3 minutes ago, AGiantPie said:

Good idea. In order to fix this rule we must spend 3 months debating a minor word change.

 

explain to me why this is the case

 

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57 minutes ago, simp said:

We were promised that this stupid rule would be amended in the new forum rules so that people couldn't post ban reports then suppress evidence that doesn't support their argument.

 

That was the intent of this change, allowing the person who the forum rules were made against would in theory prevent the person hosting the BR from suppressing people they don't want added. Though, I would note that at the end of the day as long as the BR exists there will also exist a method by which the accuser can stack the report in his favor; the only real counter to this is that the information presented in a BR only assists a GM in reaching a decision, and additional information and discussion among the GM team goes along with finding a verdict. That way, the situation is kept relatively fair; with this change however, we remove the blockade of needless rules preventing progress in a ban report; and hopefully allow the process to move more smoothly.

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21 hours ago, dogbew said:

 

That was the intent of this change, allowing the person who the forum rules were made against would in theory prevent the person hosting the BR from suppressing people they don't want added. Though, I would note that at the end of the day as long as the BR exists there will also exist a method by which the accuser can stack the report in his favor; the only real counter to this is that the information presented in a BR only assists a GM in reaching a decision, and additional information and discussion among the GM team goes along with finding a verdict. That way, the situation is kept relatively fair; with this change however, we remove the blockade of needless rules preventing progress in a ban report; and hopefully allow the process to move more smoothly.

 

The rule still states that the person who makes the ban report gets to choose who is allowed to post on the ban report and the person who is being reported has to go through a gm to get people added. This is functionally the same as it was before the new forum rules.

 

It would be completely painless to change it, in fact it would be less work than the current rule is for fact-finding. Even though the accuser will always have a slight advantage there's no reason to give them this.

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I don't really see why this would be complicated. Just let the accused make a post on the br saying "I would like Fred, Bob, and Joe to post" 

 

Then those people, just like ones the poster listed, wouldn't have their responses hidden unless they post something unrelated to the br. Wouldn't mean any real special or new task for the fm, just a few more names to not hide. 

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