Xarkly 12603 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Perhaps but I can do the exact same with a crossbow, or even a dagger so I dont understand why that's a reason not to add guns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 12837 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, HadvarAvMitteland said: I appreciate your response, it is way more logical and less toxic than others so thank you! I agree with you partially, not knowing that the guns were the same power level as bows and crossbow. However, I still dislike the thought of them being in lotc. Imagine saying, "Walks up to the man, placing the barrel of his gun inline with his head. He shoots at point blank range, possibly blowing his head cleanly off." It seems so stupid to me *walks up to the man, placing the crossbow inline with his head, he shoots at point blank range, instantly killing him literally the exact same thing except slightly less graphic 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadvarAvMitteland 557 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, argonian said: *walks up to the man, placing the crossbow inline with his head, he shoots at point blank range, instantly killing him literally the exact same thing except slightly less graphic Idk, just seems sus to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 12837 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, HadvarAvMitteland said: Idk, just seems sus to me it seems sus because you’ve never seen it happen with a crossbow. because it’s dumb and if someone did it they’d get in trouble for PG and shitty RP why wouldn’t the same apply to guns 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleres 1658 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, KunLunKungFu said: Because it gives humans something to add to their repertoire, other than a government. I also don’t know why you still participate on the server issues, seeing as you’re effectively “retired” and banned. If you need guns to make your roleplay interesting, then I don’t think they’re going to be used effectively and dynamically. If all that human roleplay boils down to is ‘government,’ than that might be a problem of the player and less of the server’s techlock. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMoist 1707 Share Posted April 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kuila said: If you need guns to make your roleplay interesting, then I don’t think they’re going to be used effectively and dynamically. If all that human roleplay boils down to is ‘government,’ than that might be a problem of the player and less of the server’s techlock. The exact same argument has been used against elves and magic. Just saying. Both arguments are equally weak. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadvarAvMitteland 557 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Kuila said: If you need guns to make your roleplay interesting, then I don’t think they’re going to be used effectively and dynamically. If all that human roleplay boils down to is ‘government,’ than that might be a problem of the player and less of the server’s techlock. I totally agree with this statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatpyrodude 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, HadvarAvMitteland said: Again, it isn't for me it's for my discord server. Please stop commenting if you have nothing constructive to say or wish to contribute to the debate Weird because it almost feels like we’re on the forums ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DISCOLIQUID 1961 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Guns are an aesthetic that is limited to the idea of the most powerful ranged weapon we allow. Right now, that’s crossbows, so a gun is a crossbow. We are not asking for extreme realism and opportunities to powergame, I really just want a damn flintlock rifle. I pinky promise I won’t powergame. If they’re a failed project, we can just take them out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadvarAvMitteland 557 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, DISCOLIQUID said: Guns are an aesthetic that is limited to the idea of the most powerful ranged weapon we allow. Right now, that’s crossbows, so a gun is a crossbow. We are not asking for extreme realism and opportunities to powergame, I really just want a damn flintlock rifle. I pinky promise I won’t powergame. If they’re a failed project, we can just take them out. I guess if they were weaker than the guns I had in mind, it could be acceptable and maybe even fun to roleplay. I still don’t think the aesthetic fits in LoTC, just my own preference I guess. I can see how others can find enjoyment from it though, however it isn’t to my taste. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeatonUnbeaten 1102 Share Posted April 20, 2020 banditry is already very easy w/ just crossbows and swords. guns don’t really tip this balance too much. as for cities, raiding cities is already quite difficult when nothing stops meta rallies, huge guard blobs and gate turtling. guns, again, don’t really change this too much. just crossbows w/ a bit more loading time and a similiar firepower. use of guns in CRP fights can be regulated, just like the use of birds, bells and horns for calling for aid. its a bump, but not a big one. dodging bullets from a early-age musket or firearm is probably a lot easier than dodging a crossbow bolt. /roll would be the most obvious solution here, since bullet trajectories are incredibly random, unlike crossbow bolts. again, not a major issue, just one that needs some work and legislating. tl;dr: guns are just reskinned crossbows. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unwillingly 11139 Share Posted April 20, 2020 whats the point of this when theres already another thread where ppl can give their opinions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadvarAvMitteland 557 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 54 minutes ago, Unwillingly said: whats the point of this when theres already another thread where ppl can give their opinions its been explained like 5 times 1 hour ago, KeatonUnbeaten said: banditry is already very easy w/ just crossbows and swords. guns don’t really tip this balance too much. as for cities, raiding cities is already quite difficult when nothing stops meta rallies, huge guard blobs and gate turtling. guns, again, don’t really change this too much. just crossbows w/ a bit more loading time and a similiar firepower. use of guns in CRP fights can be regulated, just like the use of birds, bells and horns for calling for aid. its a bump, but not a big one. dodging bullets from a early-age musket or firearm is probably a lot easier than dodging a crossbow bolt. /roll would be the most obvious solution here, since bullet trajectories are incredibly random, unlike crossbow bolts. again, not a major issue, just one that needs some work and legislating. tl;dr: guns are just reskinned crossbows. you make some good points Keaton, long time no see dude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unwillingly 11139 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, HadvarAvMitteland said: ts been explained like 5 times oh ok its for ur discord, kinda redundant if its posted to the forums, idk what else u expected to happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DISCOLIQUID 1961 Share Posted April 20, 2020 5 hours ago, HadvarAvMitteland said: I guess if they were weaker than the guns I had in mind, it could be acceptable and maybe even fun to roleplay. I still don’t think the aesthetic fits in LoTC, just my own preference I guess. I can see how others can find enjoyment from it though, however it isn’t to my taste. Personally if people really don’t want guns I understand, but I won’t entertain any arguments from either side other than “It’s what we want”/”It’s what we don’t want”. The server is plenty flexible, we’ve changed many times over the years, I don’t see why another round of gun lore will be particularly disastrous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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