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VOTE ON THE

LEMONADE LEGAL REFORMS (RETURNED FROM THE LORDS)

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Q6Bfn7Cyr0l0D_Kn2yKA0Qwtq0xAegpJU5FQKmV8zQ/edit

 

AYE

Wick

Christiansen

Amador

Galbraith

Bykov

Rakoczy

Napier

 

ABSTAIN

Barclay

 

ABSENT

Stahl-Elendil

Gray

D’Aryn

O’Rourke

 

 

Majority is achieved and the bill is returned without any changes.

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VOTE ON THE

2nd LEMONADE LEGAL REFORMS (RETURNED FROM THE LORDS)

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Q6Bfn7Cyr0l0D_Kn2yKA0Qwtq0xAegpJU5FQKmV8zQ/edit

 

AYE

Wick

Amador

Galbraith

Bykov

Rakoczy

Barclay

Napier

 

NAY

Christiansen

 

ABSENT

Stahl-Elendil

Gray

D’Aryn

O’Rourke

 

 

Majority is achieved and the bill is returned with the following amendment:

 

“410.0231 - The body which authorized the creation of a Militia has final say in regards to the disbandment of the Militia.”

 

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VOTE ON THE

INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY ACT

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ms8NkZPvbVNypcCez7Tjr6Ye2jvUYuNDRaOq6GsmTS0/edit?usp=sharing

 

AYE

Wick

Galbraith

Bykov

Rakoczy

Barclay

Napier

 

NAY

Amador

 

ABSENT

Stahl-Elendil

Gray

D’Aryn

O’Rourke

 

 

Majority is achieved and the bill is passed.

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SITTING OF THE 17TH IMPERIAL DIET

HOREN’S CALLING, 1779

 

PRESENT

Christiansen

Amador

Galbraith

Bykov

Rakoczy

Barclay

 

ABSENT

Wick

Stahl-Elendil

Gray

D’Aryn

O’Rourke

Napier

 

MATTERS DISCUSSED

The Food Prohibition Act – Absentee Vote

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10bViy5_zCJNdMnyBs4skCWBPBqz1PnbaZPiKOLqcZZs/edit?usp=sharing

 

Child Corporal Punishment Act – Absentee Vote

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XfdpkgoVfhcVhIyOPYbBFzSmnhcrux1ifTRZxz0oA44/edit?usp=sharing

 

Confirmation of Otto Wittenbach as Circuit Court Justice – Absentee Vote

 

Pacta Conventa Reform Bill – Absentee Vote

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BhSgH5qTB_uN4NSIAeXXqkPl067embafplBGW6HMVHA/edit?usp=sharing

 

4th Lemonade Legal Reforms – Absentee Vote

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HTSCxURpUx3iBXpUYlFuDITFcDiTnwnRSpjyVngcLyA/edit?usp=sharing

 

 


 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Otherwise we will continue in the absence of quorum nevertheless. It is prudent that we do not get a build-up of bills to review. I will be acting President on behalf of Sir Wick, and Galbraith will be acting leader on behalf of Stahl-Elendil.”

 

Conrad Barclay: “What's on the agenda?”

 

George Galbraith: “Is that a cue for a start of session then?”

 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Yes, proceed.”
 

George Galbraith: “Today on the agenda we'll first start with Bykov's bill as she must leave soon- and then proceed with the confirmation. After that, we have my bill, Sir Lauritz's reform bills, and then Barclay's bill as well.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I then summon Angelika Bykov to present the first of her bills.”
 

Angelika Bykov: “Prevja. The first of the two bills I shall be presenting today is entitled: The Food Prohibition Act. It shall be handed around now, to those who do not have a copy. In short, this bill covers a quite nasty subject, the trading and selling of body parts of both humans and intelligent-non-persons. Despite this…grotesque theme, I do think it is important to touch upon, as nie law currently prohibits this. I now stand open for any questions,” she concluded with a nod.
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Are there any questions in regards to this bill, or shall we simply motion for a vote?”
 

Conrad Barclay: “I motion to vote.”
 

George Galbraith: “I have a question.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “George, go on.”
 

George Galbraith: “In Section II, you define law that prohibits such law, but is there any actual punishment you define in such law? Such as a misdemeanor, etcetera.”
 

Angelika Bykov: “Niet, I decided to leave such punishment up to the court, depending on severity. However, if you think this is an issue, I could amend it.” 

 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “If you are adding criminal laws, I'd suggest that severity is actually on the laws.”
 

George Galbraith: “Aye.”
 

Angelika Bykov: “Da. I shall amend this.” She nodded.
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Should we consider the bill tabled for this session, then, so that it can be amended appropriately in due time for the next? Or are you simply doing it on the spot?”
 

Angelika Bykov: “This is not a serious amendment, so I hope we can vote on it today.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Have you finished the amendment?”
 

Angelika Bykov: “Da, I have.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Good, someone please motion for a vote.”
 

George Galbraith: “I motion to vote.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “Seconded.”

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Great. I will now call the roll.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I will vote AYE.”
 

Karl Amador:Da!”
 

Angelika Bykov: Aye.”
 

George Galbraith: “Aye.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy:Da.”
 

Conrad Barclay:AYE.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen:With six ayes… Well, quorum is not met. Absentees will get to vote.
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Angelika, proceed with your next bill.”
 

Angelika Bykov: “The Act seeks to criminalize the harming of a child, unless in a very specific instance, where a child is committing a crime. Therefore, righteous authorities can do what is reasonable. But for the most part, it is to prevent primarily parents from harming their children. I now stand open for questions.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Any inquiries?”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “Why. What's the point.”
 

Angelika Bykov: “…Why? Do you ask why I wrote it?”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “Parents spank their children. Does this bill outlaw spanking children?”
 

Karl Amador: “Seems like it does….”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “If a child cries that their parent disciplined them, could the parent be arrested?”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Once more, Angelika, it seems you've omitted the part where you state the actual punishment.”
 

Angelika Bykov: “Hmm…I suppose so, though I could amend it so that parents are allowed to spank their children. And da, I thought it's best leave it up to the court for punishment. I shall amend this too.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “Amend it to 'severe physical violence' or 'lasting damage', and remove the bit about the ISA for redundancy, and I'll support it.”
 

George Galbraith: “How would this law's punishment be different than CH-202.01, On Assault?”
 

Conrad Barclay: “'Harming' is too vague.”
 

George Galbraith: “Or even battery.”
 

Karl Amador: “I think George raises a relevant question.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “Generally children aren't afforded the same legal rights vs their parents as adults are against strangers. I may not steal, but I can deprive my child of their property. The law doesn't simply apply to children.”
 

George Galbraith:  “Then, perhaps the same punishment clauses in assault could be applied to this bill?”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Slapping is severe physical violence?”
 

Angelika Bykov: “Da, I would support that too.”
 

George Galbraith: “Depends on how injurious the slap would be classified as a “violent injury” as it does under assault law.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Are the amendments finished?”
 

Angelika Bykov: “Da, they are.”
 

George Galbraith: “Motion to vote on these amendments, then.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “Seconded.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “As established by Stahl-Elendil and Wick, we do not need to vote on amendments as long as the author of the bill accepts them. Therefore, we can move to a vote on the bill instead.”
 

George Galbraith: “Well, considering how she has already added the amendments to the bill, I motion to vote on the bill, then.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “Seconded.”
 

Angelika Bykov: “Da, I fully accept the amendments.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Perfect.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I will vote AYE.”
 

Karl Amador: Da.”
 

Angelika Bykov:Aye.”
 

George Galbraith:Aye.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: Da.”
 

Conrad Barclay:AYE.
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen:Another six ayes, which is not quorum, so absentee voting will happen again.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Now, I would like to call upon Otto Wittenbach, for his nomination to the judiciary!Please stand in the middle of the room.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “I motion to vote.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Good, good, you have been nominated by the crown to be a Circ--. I would say we have the man introcuce himself first, Conrad.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “Seconded.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Please. Introduce yourself, your occupation and such, and your relevant experience with the law.”
 

Otto Wittenbach: “Ja of course! Well mein Name ist Otto Wittenbach, I am Vice President of zhe NGS und Curator of its Flagship Museum in Haense, I also worked as un teacher for years und….3. Wrote many different books un different subjects! In Addition also own un shop, always close to zhe peoples, listen well to zhem und what zhey have to tell…. In my time I have come across Law a lot, may it be from colleagues oder teaching it to young students! Law itself has fascinated me as un subject.. How its created.. Evolved un linked. To unsere society. Once I heard zhat zhere was un need for circuit judges I didn't hesistate to apply! To serve this great realm, with its great peoples, und work with unser law, Danke for your time!”

 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Any questions?”

 

Angelika Bykov: “This is not a question. I simply wish to state that I have worked with Mr. Wittenbach for some years. I can personally vouch that he is very well fit for the position.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “I motion to vote.”
 

Karl Amador: “Seconded.”
 

Angelika Bykov: “I second.”
 

Karl Amador: “Suck it Bykov.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Roll time.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I will vote AYE.”
 

Karl Amador: Da!”
 

Angelika Bykov: Aye.”
 

George Galbraith:AYE.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy:Da.”
 

Conrad Barclay:AYE.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen:With six ayes, it will once more pass to absentee voting.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Thank you for you time, Otto, you are free to leave. What is next, Galbraith?”
 

George Galbraith: “I believe next is my bill.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Introduce it, please.”
 

George Galbraith: “To put it simply, this bill would move to repeal the Pacta Conventa, a sanctioning system that hasn't been used in centuries, and a system that has brought conflict and divisiveness to the empire, that should not be. I now will open up to any questions.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “How else then would you propose vassal issues be handled? If you wish to repeal a system, surely you have a replacement in mind.”
 

George Galbraith: “Any conflict that happens between vassals that leads to war simply should not be sanctioned.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “Then how would conflict between vassals be resolved?”
 

George Galbraith: “Any other issues that may be minor may be mediated appropriately by institutions such as the House of Lords. This bill simply repeals the ability to sanction an inter vassal battle or war.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “The law states only the Emperor may grant the Pacta Coventa, what does this bill do other than nominally restricting the Emperor's authority?”
 

George Galbraith: “And issues can also be resolved with further negotiations, and even courts. It ensures that such an abysmal piece of law does not constitute war and divisiveness to riddle the empire. It's rather obsolete and redundant.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “The law only states that the Emperor may, if he so chooses, sanction a war. The Emperor has absolute authority, so that will not change. How then, does removing this article change anything?”
 

George Galbraith: “It's a legal practice that has ended sadly, such as the sanctioned Riga War. This sanction serves as a custom for such massacres, like the Sacking of Riga, to occur. It must be unilaterally repealed.”
 

Karl Amador: “This just seems like an unnecessary, regressive bill to me. It's not like this law is actively used or abused….”
 

George Galbraith: “The fact that such an obsolete law hasn't been enacted, coupled with what it can cause.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “The Riga Conflict could not have been solved any other way than by inter-vassal war. Had the Emperor personally decided the question, the faction he sided against would have rebelled.”
 

George Galbraith: “Goes to simply prove my point.”
 

Karl Amador: “I don't think repealing this law will do any good.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “I agree with Mr Barclay.”
 

Karl Amador: “As do I. In fact, I motion for a vote.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “Seconded.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Hmph. I will call the roll.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I shall vote AYE.
 

Karl Amador: Niet.
 

Angelika Bykov: Aye.”
 

George Galbraith: Aye.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: Niet.”
 

Conrad Barclay:Nay.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: With a vote of three ayes and three nays, the vote will be decided by absentee voting.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Galbraith, what's next?”
 

George Galbraith: “I believe we have your bill reforms, and then Mister Barclay's bill.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I will then introduce the 4th Lemonade Legal Reform, which is on the topic of abdication. It was suggested to me by the Secretary of Civil Affairs that we establish a way to legally manage abdication, and so that I have done. Any questions?”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “Again, I have to ask why this is necessary. If a peer wishes to retire and exit public life, is that not their prerogative?”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “It is entirely possible to retire and exit public life without abdicating your title, though this bill was particularly written because of the desire of the Secretary of Civil Affairs to be able to manage it properly, as often when someone abdicates they do not inform authorities properly.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “Then why not write it to reflect that they simply need to notify the Secretary, instead of requiring an approval.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “It was the desire of the Secretary that everyone should not be simply be allowed to abdicate without reason.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: “Would wanting to step down not be reason enough? If the Duke of Reinmar wishes to let his son take control of the duchy without having to kill himself, then he should be allowed to.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “I should hope you aren't encouraging my kinsman to off himself should he ever feel tired of his duties.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “The Duke of Reinmar could likely claim old age at this rate, in his particular case. Though I do see the point that you bring to the table, albeit I would beckon that being a Peer is more of a duty than a job, one that cannot simply be retired of.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “Old age rarely renders one absolutely and completely incapable, but a duty becomes difficult to complete in full and to one's utmost ability long before one becomes completely incapable of performing it.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I see. Well, I motion for a vote.”
 

George Galbraith: “Seconded.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I will call the roll.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I will vote AYE.”
 

Karl Amador: Niet.”
 

George Galbraith:Aye.”
 

Lukas Rakoczy: Niet.”
 

Conrad Barclay:Nay.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: Two ayes and three nays, the bill will move to absentee voting.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Next reform, I assume, Galbraith?”
 

George Galbraith: “Indeed. You did submit two, no?”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Three.”
 

Karl Amador: “Good GOD.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “We should just adjourn and meet again. This is getting a little crazy.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I concur with Barclay, in all honesty.”
 

George Galbraith: “I agree.”
 

Conrad Barclay: “We don't even have close to a quorum either.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Our numbers will only dwindle as we go.”
 

George Galbraith: “Perhaps we should save it for next session, then.”
 

Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Yes. Unless there are any objections, we will adjourn.”

 

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VOTE ON THE

FOOD PROHIBITION ACT

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10bViy5_zCJNdMnyBs4skCWBPBqz1PnbaZPiKOLqcZZs/edit?usp=sharing

 

AYE

Christiansen

Amador

Galbraith

Bykov

Rakoczy

Barclay

 

ABSENT

Wick

Stahl-Elendil

Gray

D’Aryn

O’Rourke

Napier

 

Majority is not achieved and the matter will be concluded by way of absentee voting before the next session ((Monday)). Members must cast their votes by then. The matter requires ONE vote to achieve majority.

 

@Braehn Elendil An'Hiraeth

@Thatpyrodude

@Caranthir_

@Mandalore1

@Hanrahan

 

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VOTE ON THE

CHILD CORPORAL PUNISHMENT ACT

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XfdpkgoVfhcVhIyOPYbBFzSmnhcrux1ifTRZxz0oA44/edit?usp=sharing

 

AYE

Christiansen

Amador

Galbraith

Bykov

Rakoczy

Barclay

 

ABSENT

Wick

Stahl-Elendil

Gray

D’Aryn

O’Rourke

Napier

 

Majority is not achieved and the matter will be concluded by way of absentee voting before the next session ((Monday)). Members must cast their votes by then. The matter requires ONE vote to achieve majority.

 

@Braehn Elendil An'Hiraeth

@Thatpyrodude

@Caranthir_

@Mandalore1

@Hanrahan

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VOTE ON THE

CONFIRMATION OF OTTO WITTENBACH AS CIRCUIT JUSTICE

 

AYE

Christiansen

Amador

Galbraith

Bykov

Rakoczy

Barclay

 

ABSENT

Wick

Stahl-Elendil

Gray

D’Aryn

O’Rourke

Napier

 

Majority is not achieved and the matter will be concluded by way of absentee voting before the next session ((Monday)). Members must cast their votes by then. The matter requires ONE vote to achieve majority.

 

@Braehn Elendil An'Hiraeth

@Thatpyrodude

@Caranthir_

@Mandalore1

@Hanrahan

 

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VOTE ON THE

PACTA CONVENTA REFORM BILL

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BhSgH5qTB_uN4NSIAeXXqkPl067embafplBGW6HMVHA/edit?usp=sharing

 

AYE

Christiansen

Galbraith

Bykov

 

NAY

Amador

Rakoczy

Barclay

 

ABSENT

Wick

Stahl-Elendil

Gray

D’Aryn

O’Rourke

Napier

 

Majority is not achieved and the matter will be concluded by way of absentee voting before the next session ((Monday)). Members must cast their votes by then. The matter requires FOUR votes to achieve majority.

 

@Braehn Elendil An'Hiraeth

@Thatpyrodude

@Caranthir_

@Mandalore1

@Hanrahan

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VOTE ON THE

4th LEMONADE LEGAL REFORMS

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BhSgH5qTB_uN4NSIAeXXqkPl067embafplBGW6HMVHA/edit?usp=sharing

 

AYE

Christiansen

Galbraith

 

NAY

Amador

Rakoczy

Barclay

 

ABSENT

Wick

Stahl-Elendil

Bykov

Gray

D’Aryn

O’Rourke

Napier

 

Majority is not achieved and the matter will be concluded by way of absentee voting before the next session ((Monday)). Members must cast their votes by then. The matter requires FIVE votes to achieve majority.

 

@Braehn Elendil An'Hiraeth

@Thatpyrodude

@Caranthir_

@Mandalore1

@Hanrahan

@AnonymousAlexa

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Sir Konstantin votes:

 

  • AYE on the Food Prohibition Act;
  • AYE on the Child Corporal Punishment Act;
  • AYE to confirm Otto Witenbach as Circuit Court Justice;
  • AYE on the Pacta Conventa Reform Act;
  • NAY on the 4th Lemonade Legal Reforms.

 

As of this tally:

 

  • The Food Prohibition Act has achieved majority and passed;
  • The Child Corporal Punishment Bill has achieved majority and passed;
  • Otto Wittenbach’s confirmation as Circuit Court Justice has achieved majority;
  • The Pacta Conventa Reform Bill requires THREE votes to achieve majority;
  • The 4th Lemonade Legal Reforms require FIVE votes to achieve majority.

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Padraig O’Rourke votes (https://gyazo.com/b68b82069a4ff675e8f05f4cd79d0f05😞

 

  • AYE on the Food Prohibition Bill;
  • AYE on the Child Corporal Punishment Bill;
  • AYE to confirm Otto Wittenbach as Circuit Court Justice;
  • AYE on the Pacta Conventa Reform Bill;
  • NAY on the 4th Lemonade Legal Reforms.

 

As of this tally:

 

  • The Food Prohibition Act has achieved majority and passed;
  • The Child Corporal Punishment Bill has achieved majority and passed;
  • Otto Wittenbach’s confirmation as Circuit Court Justice has achieved majority;
  • The Pacta Conventa Reform Bill requires TWO vote to achieve majority;
  • The 4th Lemonade Legal Reforms require FIVE votes to achieve majority.

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Farooq Gray votes (https://gyazo.com/8f917e4a1d35adef92fbb2d101519fb7 :

 

  • AYE on the Food Prohibition Bill;
  • NAY on the Child Corporal Punishment Bill;
  • AYE to the confirmation of Otto Wittenbach as Circuit Court Justice;
  • NAY to the Pacta Conventa Repeal Bill;
  • NAY to the 4th Lemonade Legal Reforms.

 

As of this tally:

 

  • The Food Prohibition Bill has achieved majority and passed;
  • The Child Corporal Punishment Bill has achieved majority and passed;
  • Otto Wittenbach’s confirmation as Circuit Court Justice has achieved majority;
  • The Pacta Conventa Repeal Bill requires TWO votes to achieve majority;
  • The 4th Lemonade Legal Reforms can no longer achieve majority and is defeated.

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6 SUN’S SMILE, 1779.

 

BE IT KNOWN that THE CROWN, upon the recommendation of His Excellency, The Solicitor-General DARIUS BASRID, has submitted the nomination of Mr. FAROOQ GRAY MHC as Supreme Court Justice, to be confirmed on the advice and consent of the House of Commons, and subject to any further processes established by Law.

 

Delivered at Novellen,

HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY Peter III, by the Grace of God Holy Orenian Emperor, forever August, King of Renatus, Curon, Salvus, and Seventis, King of Kaedrin, Prince of Malinor, Grand Duke of Ves, Duke of Lorraine and Roden, Baron of Sedan, Vitzburg, and Sedai, Protector of the Heartlanders, Highlanders, and Farfolk, etcetera.

Edited by Imperial_Office_of_Civil_Affairs

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10 HARREN’S FOLLY, 1779.

 

BE IT KNOWN that THE CROWN, acting upon the recommendation of His Imperial Excellency, The Archchancellor SIMON BASRID, has submitted the nomination of Mr. GEORGE GALBRAITH MHC as Secretary of State for the Treasury, to be confirmed on the advice and consent of the House of Commons, and subject to any further processes established by Law.

 

Delivered at Novellen,

HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY Peter III, by the Grace of God Holy Orenian Emperor, forever August, King of Renatus, Curon, Salvus, and Seventis, King of Kaedrin, Prince of Malinor, Grand Duke of Ves, Duke of Lorraine and Roden, Baron of Sedan, Vitzburg, and Sedai, Protector of the Heartlanders, Highlanders, and Farfolk, etcetera.

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