devvy 1348 Share Posted November 29, 2020 As a reminder, we have an active contest! Do you want a rare, exclusive, forum tag? Do you want your work to be submitted on the Wiki for everyone to see? Do you want MINAS?? LOOK NO FURTHER!! From November 27th to December 30th - you have the opportunity to win 250 minas and the Wiki Wizard forum tag! (So exclusive only three people have it..) How do you enter the contest? Simple! Message HogoBojo#0001 on discord. He will assign you a topic and you have to write an all-informative guide about it! The winner will have their works published on the Wiki, but participants are still allowed to post their submissions on the forums (even if they don't win), as an unofficial guide! Look here for some inspiration on how to create an efficient Vortex guide: https://wiki.lordofthecraft.net/index.php?title=Vortex_Beginners_Guide 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayL 9 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I don't think anyone has fully understood how this vortex thing works 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devvy 1348 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, WayL said: I don't think anyone has fully understood how this vortex thing works It's meant to be seen as an opportunity to learn as you're writing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonito 2192 Share Posted November 29, 2020 could staff explain their plugin instead? tossing a tag wont help ppl suddenly make sense of it and lengthens the time we're without a guide, if a good one even comes of this. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chryasor 269 Share Posted November 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, kujo said: could staff explain their plugin instead? tossing a tag wont help ppl suddenly make sense of it and lengthens the time we're without a guide, if a good one even comes of this. Please, this Vortex plugin is complex, most of it isn't even implemented yet, I doubt it's even finished - why is it up to the playerbase to write our own guides when we don't even have access to anything more than the extreme basics? 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReveredOwl 5297 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I thought a guide was already being made? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMeMorgan 997 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) I will say that I find it quite disappointing that the development team have tried to get the player base to create a guide from code they have not worked on, rather than them create one themselves. I find it as a way for them to cut corners as they might not be confident or skilled enough to write their own guide for their project. I will say that although as someone who supports Vortex, as I enjoy the system somewhat, cutting corners and getting players to do something that should be their part of development is very lazy and improper. p.s. to those writing it, some of those recipes are inaccurate and have changed as well as how there are more stations such as the woodworking station. Edited November 29, 2020 by JustMeMorgan 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrendE 1324 Share Posted November 29, 2020 hey i remember this episode 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devvy 1348 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 Haha! Just to be clear - guides are still being written, regardless of whether or not people decide to participate in the contest. This was moreso a way for players to also contribute if they so wanted to and earn some neat little rewards for it. Participation is optional and will in no way effect the completion of these guides. 🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidoro 464 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Ah yes why have a complete guide prepared when you can just get players to do it for you omg guys thats brilliant.. would be kinda awkward if the players couldn't make a guide on something they aren't informed about and is in shambles... Edited November 29, 2020 by Aidoro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statherian 3281 Share Posted November 29, 2020 The fact there is no guide ready at this point leads me to believe this plugin was rushed to get ready for 8.0. As a result there is next to no player input, and the few people that have tested it are shutting down anyone not agreeing with them. As an idea I don't mind vortex, I think it has the potential to add quite a lot of flavour to lotc in the form of specialised weapons, armor and various ores. The issue however comes when you get stuck because you need bLaCkSmItHiNg ClOtHeS to make tin. Where do you get the materials for these? Who knows. Hides? Good luck finding those! Building materials fell victim to this system which is near crippling for new settlements trying to get their build done these coming days. Why was this guide not ready upon release? Why is the UI so bad, why was there barely any input asked from the majority of the playerbase? Why are there a select few people rallying around the dev responsible for this plugin to **** on any critism? People are willing to give vortex a chance, but in its current state I don't know why it was released. Some nodes were invisible upon release, you'd think something like that wouldn't happen when you test your finished plugin in advance before releasing your finished product upon your finished server. Please fix thank you 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustando 1436 Share Posted November 29, 2020 why did they release a system like this without properly finishing it? Why did they release a system like this without having a full in-depth guide written? Rly boggles my mind. Elementary school tier mistakes 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_pr0fit 2937 Share Posted November 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Luminaire said: the few people that have tested it are shutting down anyone not agreeing with them. Don't do my man Sham bad like that, he tested it to the best of his abilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statherian 3281 Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Professorus said: Don't do my man Sham bad like that, he tested it to the best of his abilities. That does not justify the attitude being put up against people being critical of the plugin. We just "don't get" it or we're not smart enough or too lazy to fully utilise the plugin. We can have opinions and we can dislike the plugin, that does not make us any less than the people who tested it. The issue is that to my knowledge, and please prove me wrong if I am mistaken here there was no large scale public testing. The majority of the playerbase was not represented in the test process and as a result we got something we didn't actually ask for. The backlash this plugin has seen so far would've not been like this if people had a voice in this. The behavior from certain individuals only makes it worse for staff in the end, should keep that in mind too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unwillingly 10837 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I understand that staff are also writing a guide, but what's with the sudden decision to involve players in guide writing? I'm not complaining about that specifically, but it's the fact that this has never been done before with anything else, correct me if I'm wrong. When have staff ever decided to get players involved in guide writing with anything ever? It's always been the CT and Mods who did this stuff in the past. Staff didnt make a contest for who could write the best new player tutorial, they didnt make a contest for who could write the best shop creation tutorial, but now its suddenly "write a guide for something half of you barely have a grip on after two days of using it" If u ask me it comes off as a huge smack in the face when this has never been offered to players in the past, but now it is for something that 3/4th of the player base barely understands how to use 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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