Proddy 2246 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Padre Carlos, the Pontificial Chamberlain takes a break from arduously commentating on the meetings progression to cast his own voting ballot. I). To receive a mandate to completely overhaul the structuring & typography of the current Canon Law. NAY II). To add a stipulation to Canon Law that makes the (Princely) Archdioceses of Providentia, Jorenus & Albarosa permanent within the Holy Mother Church, in name and in scope. AYE III). To update the definitions in Book II, Title II. Chapter III., expanding the Curia roles currently present & outlining their tasks more concretely. AYE IV). To change in Book IV, Title IV, Chapter III., that only one attributable miracle is necessary for sainthood: as not all current saints have two. AYE V). To add in Book V, Title II, Chapter I that inciting sedition against, questioning the legitimacy of or conspiring to harm the High Pontiff commits a crime and excommunicates himself automatically. AYE VI). To add in Book V, Title II a chapter that describes Papal Briefs. AYE VII). To overhaul Book VI, Title II. Chapter III., rendering Minor Bulls ‘Archdiocesan Decrees’ and further streamlining them with the Golden Bulls of His Holiness. AYE VIII). [REMOVED] IX). To add in BOOK VII, Title I, that the High Pontiff may, on his own accord, assume the role of judge within a trial, and overturn the ruling of a lesser judge with a majority of the cardinals backing such. NAY X). Although it is within the High Pontiff’s authority to venerate any Canonist at will, His Holiness seeks to gain popular approval for his nominees regardless: X.I).Empress Anne the August of Novellen NAYX.II). His Holiness the High Pontiff James II AYEX.III). His Holiness the High Pontiff Pontian III AYEX.IV). Governor-General Richard de Reden NAYX.V). Vicar Lemuel de Langford NAY X.VI). Father Pius of Sutica AYE X.VII). Anton Barclay AYE XI). To beautifyXI.I). Cardinal Erasmus von Getreide of Ves NAY XI.II). Queen Viktoria var Ruthern of Haense NAY XII). To beautify, and then proceed to CanonizeXII.I). Andrik ‘I’ Vydra AYEXII.II). John of Carnatia NAYXII.III). Jasper of Renzfeld AYE XII.IV). Otto II of Haense NAY XIII). To Canonize, XIII.I). Vytenis of Luciensport AYEXIII.II). High Pontiff Everard II AYE 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumoldth 207 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Bishop Otho of Valwyck votes: I. NAY II. AYE III. AYE IV. NAY V. AYE VI. AYE VII. AYE VIII. REMOVED IX. AYE XIV. NAY XV. NAY XVI. NAY XVII. AYE 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumoldth 207 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Curious on why the clergy votes on Basil's proposals, Bishop Otho of Valwyck asked privetly Bishop Benedict @Piov on the matter " Dear teacher, did you ordain Basil earlier than the date that was agreed upon? I find it strange that we vote on his proposals" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 12836 Share Posted January 27, 2021 20 hours ago, Basil Moroul said: Brothers, I have a few proposals which I wish to add to this ecumenical council before I respond to the proposals already made by the Pontiff. Firstly I propose that any mention of the punishment of interdiction be removed from canon law. This is because I believe it is immoral and wrong to prevent the clergy from performing canonist rites to specific individuals unless they are excommunicated. I also believe it to be wholly unprofessional and abhorrent to place these measures on entire nations, cities or places due to the sins of their leader. The Holy Mother Church should not restrict its activities and rites given to the canonist populace just because a leader might be a sinful man or woman, it is wrong. Secondly I have recently seen in the most recent papal bull that his Holiness wishes to reinstate tithes and I disagree with this measure to fill up the churches coffers. I propose that any mention of tithes be removed from canon law as it is wrong to tax the faithful simply for doing our God-given duties. I do not preach and spread the word of God in hopes of being paid, and I would pray that my fellow clergy does not do the same. Donations and selling materials in shops is how the church should gather its funds, each diocese should be in charge of its own funds also. We should all follow his Eminence, Cardinal Benedict’s footsteps and activities like the fish fry. I believe it wrong to tax the faithful for being in their cities, because that's what a tithe is - tax. Currently there are no defined laws around the way in which a rebukement of a sitting pontiff may occur and the procedure around it to avoid a pontiff taking retaliatory action against cardinals who would vote to rebuke him. I propose the following is added into canon law under Title II - Constitutional Hierarchy of the Church, in its own chapter. Chapter 6. The Rebukement of a sitting Pontiff I. In order for the rebukement process to begin the Auditor of the Tribunal must open a public inquiry into the alleged crimes or reasons that may warrant his removal from office. This is an inquiry not a trial A. Any who wish to provide evidence to an inquiry of rebukement may do so without fear of repercussions or defrockment from a sitting Pontiff B. A sitting Pontiff can not issue orders barring his clergy or general populace from attending this inquiry or testifying C. Once the Auditor of the Tribunal has opened a formal inquiry into alleged crimes, or justification for rebukement, the Pontiff may not remove the Auditor until the inquiry and subsequent vote, if it is warranted, is concluded. D. A sitting Pontiff may not defrock any member of the clergy for testifying at an inquiry. II. If as a result of an inquiry the Auditor of the Tribunal deems it fit to argue the case for rebukement before the college of cardinals than he may do so freely without preventative measures taken by a sitting Pontiff. III. If the Auditor of the Tribunal should become ill, incapacitated or die during this process than the Vice-Chancellor will stand in for him. IV. Once the Auditor of the Tribunal has made his case before the college of cardinals they may vote on whether to rebuke the Pontiff or not, this must be a unanimous decision. A. If the Auditor of the Tribunal deems it fit that a vote of rebukement must happen then all cardinals are obliged to vote, none can abstain. B. During the process as the case is presented by the Auditor of the Tribunal and during the vote of rebukement, the Supreme Order of Exalted Owyn must act as a neutral force and guard the proceedings from any who would interrupt. V. If the vote of rebukement fails than all shall be as before however a sitting Pontiff may not defrock, demote or excommunicate the Auditor of the Tribunal or any member of the college of cardinals for voting disfavorably against a sitting Pontiff. VI. If the vote of rebukement passes unanimously than the sitting Pontiff must resign his papal throne immediately and may issue no decrees, papal bulls or any writing that would go against the decision taken by the college of cardinals. A. Once the sitting Pontiff has resigned his seat he will thus be declared Pontiff-Emeritus. B. After the resignation of the sitting Pontiff the church will declare a state of sede vacante and the college of cardinals will once more convene at the behest of the Auditor of the Tribunal to elect a new Pontiff. C. The previously sitting Pontiff may not put himself forward for election for the remainder of his life. C. During the state of sede vacante the authority of the Supreme Order of Exalted Owyn transfers to the Auditor of the Tribunal to ensure a smooth transition of power, once a new Pontiff is elected the authority will return to its holder. VII. If it is the wish of the Auditor of the Tribunal to begin proceedings for a prosecution for the alleged crimes of the Pontiff-Emeritus, then he may do so My final proposal is for an addition to be made to Canon law that will outlaw the practise of selling indulgences. I do pray that no clergymen may ever fall so far from grace and begin performing this but canon law is universal and prevents any from doing so in the future. I believe the practise of selling indulgences is extremely heretical because it is, in no uncertain words, selling salvation. Salvation can not be bought with coin or conspiracies but with love for God and penance. ✠ Now that all of my proposals have been made I will reply to the proposals already made by Owyn the third. I shall begin with sections I and II to simply say that these are unnecessary additions to make and have us vote on because no mandate is required to change canon law, an ecumenical council is and his Holiness may call an ecumenical council to reform canon law provided that at least three quarters of the entire clergy are present and cast their vote for or against the proposals made. Also, the names of each diocese usually depends on their location such as Providentia and should not be made permanent. Section III seems interesting though I am most confused why the additions that he intends to make have not been presented to us so before we can vote on this I believe that the changes he will make if this is approved should be shown to us. With section IV I agree with some of my fellow clergymen present, that the criteria for sainthood should not change simply for the sake of change but those saints with only one miracle be deeply evaluated. For the saints with only one miracle we should delve into their history and search for any other miracles that can be attributed to them. Now onto section V of Owyn’s proposals, this one regarding sedition which I find most confusing. I do not see the requirement for this to be added to canon law as there are already laws against sedition and all canonists accused of a crime in canon law should have a right to have a trial and not immediately face excommunication. Excommunication is not a tool that we should use with so little affect. This also sets a dangerous precedent wherein any cardinal who expresses their wish to rebuke any sitting Pontiff or any who vote in favour of rebuking a pontiff might be charged with this crime and face immediate excommunication. This law allows for a sitting Pontiff to punish his cardinals for invoking their right to rebuke a sitting Pontiff and I do not believe this is acceptable as rebukement is very clearly set in canon law. I shall skip section VI, VII and VIII and move straight onto section IX. I believe what is proposed here is very dangerous and shows a great distrust between his Holiness and the judges that hold trials in canon law. His Holiness should trust the abilities and judgement of his judges lest why is there a point in them to begin with. If his Holiness does not wish for his judges to make judgements that are not acceptable to him then why have them to begin with. Judges should act independently and give a fair judgement else the whole trial process is a complete and absolute farce. After enduring the panicked whispers of an attendant, Ailred stands up to address the Council. "Having been made aware of the possible invalidity of these proposals, as it appears Basil has not yet been ordained, I echo them to ensure their validity. Naturally, as the proposals remain the same, there is an assumption that each vote on them does too, mine included, unless the voter states otherwise." 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReveredOwl 5317 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) Acolyte Basil Morul sits firmly in his seat within the tent filled with chaos and rushed proceedings as the clergymen suddenly begin to make an outcry over his validity and presence at the meeting. Surely somebody had ought to notice his white acolyte vestments when he entered the meeting and put forward his proposals, surely this mistake was simply down to the speedy and chaotic council hurtling forward in time for the Pontiff’s next papal bull. After receiving news that his ordainment was paused for supposedly voting in the council he rose from his seat to address those present. “Good brothers, I am most confused why there is trouble now, on the final day of this council, for I have been sitting here for several speedy and rowdy days with the rest of you - surely my acolyte robes are a give away to you all. I attended the meeting as I was informed that all members of the church were invited to attend and have their input and put forward proposals for the Pontiff to consider. That is all I did, I put forward four proposals for the Pontiff to consider and he put them forward to be voted on, all fine within canon law under Book 1, Title II, 5.8. I am confused why some of you present are making the claim that I have voted on the proposals presented before us but as you can all see in the tallies I have not, I am thusly unsure why my ordination and progress into the priesthood has been halted for voting when clearly I have not. I do pray that their Graces present are not saying that the opinions of laymen and acolytes are less worthy of merit than their own.” Edited January 27, 2021 by Basil Moroul 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iudaes 1087 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) I). To receive a mandate to completely overhaul the structuring & typography of the current Canon Law. NO II). To add a stipulation to Canon Law that makes the (Princely) Archdioceses of Providentia, Jorenus & Albarosa permanent within the Holy Mother Church, in name and in scope. NO III). To update the definitions in Book II, Title II. Chapter III., expanding the Curia roles currently present & outlining their tasks more concretely. This involves the addition of the new roles already granted, and to add onto the existing descriptions the de facto tasks of each curia role as well. YES IV). To change in Book IV, Title IV, Chapter III., that only one attributable miracle is necessary for sainthood: as not all current saints have two. NO V). To add in Book V, Title II, Chapter I that inciting sedition against, questioning the legitimacy of or conspiring to harm the High Pontiff commits a crime and excommunicates himself automatically. This would involve a law stipulation that specifies what circumstances would justify such: such as disputing a legitimate election, or inciting violence against the High Pontiff as a person. YES VI). To add in Book V, Title II a chapter that describes Papal Briefs. YES VII). To overhaul Book VI, Title II. Chapter III., rendering Minor Bulls ‘Archdiocesan Decrees’ and further streamlining them with the Golden Bulls of His Holiness. YES VIII). [REMOVED] IX). To add in BOOK VII, Title I, that the High Pontiff may, on his own accord, assume the role of judge within a trial, and overturn the ruling of a lesser judge with a majority of the cardinals backing such. This would require prior approval from the College of Cardinals and should principally be only used in severely important procedures. NO X). Although it is within the High Pontiff’s authority to venerate any Canonist at will, His Holiness seeks to gain popular approval for his nominees regardless: X.I).Empress Anne the August of Novellen YESX.II). His Holiness the High Pontiff James II YESX.III). His Holiness the High Pontiff Pontian III YESX.IV). Governor-General Richard de Reden NOX.V). Vicar Lemuel de Langford NO X.VI). Father Pius of Sutica YES X.VII). Anton Barclay YES XI). To beautifyXI.I). Cardinal Erasmus von Getreide of Ves NO, suggests he be made venerable XI.II). Queen Viktoria var Ruthern of Haense NO XII). To beautify, and then proceed to CanonizeXII.I). Andrik ‘I’ Vydra NAYXII.II). John of Carnatia NAYXII.III). Jasper of Renzfeld AYE XII.IV). Otto II of Haense AYE XIII). To Canonize, XIII.I). Vytenis of Luciensport NAYXIII.II). High Pontiff Everard II AYE Edited January 27, 2021 by GoldWolfGaming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 12836 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Ailred changes his vote to a AYE on article II. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurfv 101 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) I). To receive a mandate to completely overhaul the structuring & typography of the current Canon Law. Jan Istvan Tibor votes Aye II). To add a stipulation to Canon Law that makes the (Princely) Archdioceses of Providentia, Jorenus & Albarosa permanent within the Holy Mother Church, in name and in scope. Jan Istvan Tibor votes Aye III). To update the definitions in Book II, Title II. Chapter III., expanding the Curia roles currently present & outlining their tasks more concretely. This involves the addition of the new roles already granted, and to add onto the existing descriptions the de facto tasks of each curia role as well. Jan Istvan Tibor votes Aye IV). To change in Book IV, Title IV, Chapter III., that only one attributable miracle is necessary for sainthood: as not all current saints have two. Jan Istvan Tibor votes Aye V). To add in Book V, Title II, Chapter I that inciting sedition against, questioning the legitimacy of or conspiring to harm the High Pontiff commits a crime and excommunicates himself automatically. This would involve a law stipulation that specifies what circumstances would justify such: such as disputing a legitimate election, or inciting violence against the High Pontiff as a person. Jan Istvan Tibor votes Aye VI). To add in Book V, Title II a chapter that describes Papal Briefs. Jan Istvan Tibor votes Aye VII). To overhaul Book VI, Title II. Chapter III., rendering Minor Bulls ‘Archdiocesan Decrees’ and further streamlining them with the Golden Bulls of His Holiness. Jan Istvan Tibor votes Aye VIII). [REMOVED] IX). To add in BOOK VII, Title I, that the High Pontiff may, on his own accord, assume the role of judge within a trial, and overturn the ruling of a lesser judge with a majority of the cardinals backing such. This would require prior approval from the College of Cardinals and should principally be only used in severely important procedures. Jan Istvan Tibor votes Aye Jan Istvan Tibor votes Nay on XIV, XV, XVI & XVI Edited January 28, 2021 by Wurfv 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeris 3118 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) Owyn III presents the final tally, closing the council. I). To receive a mandate to completely overhaul the structuring & typography of the current Canon Law. REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY AYE: Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Monsignor Robert de Bourdon Father Lajos Sandor Károly Jan Istvan Tibor Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Otho Episcopus Valwyck Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Alfred Episcopus Henrikev Manfried Cardinalis Providentia Vicary Episcopus Rochefort Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Father Karl Kortrevich ABSTAIN: Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Adelric Episcopus Esbec Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic Father Cyril Halcourt Father Carlos of Hyspia II). To add a stipulation to Canon Law that makes the (Princely) Archdioceses of Providentia, Jorenus & Albarosa permanent within the Holy Mother Church, in name and in scope. PASSED BY COUNCIL. 3/4 MAJORITY ACHIEVED. AYE: Otho Episcopus Valwyck Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Alfred Episcopus Henrikev Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Monsignor Robert de Bourdon Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Father Lajos Sandor Károly Father Karl Kortrevich Father Cyril Halcourt Father Carlos of Hyspia Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Jan Istvan Tibor Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Manfried Cardinalis Providentia Vicary Episcopus Rochefort Adelric Episcopus Esbec Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic III). To update the definitions in Book II, Title II. Chapter III., expanding the Curia roles currently present & outlining their tasks more concretely. This involves the addition of the new roles already granted, and to add onto the existing descriptions the de facto tasks of each curia role as well. REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY AYE: Otho Episcopus Valwyck Manfried Cardinalis Providentia Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Monsignor Robert de Bourdon Father Lajos Sandor Károly Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Adelric Episcopus Esbec Father Carlos of Hyspia Jan Istvan Tibor Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Vicary Episcopus Rochefort Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic Father Karl Kortrevich Father Cyril Halcourt Alfred Episcopus Henrikev IV). To change in Book IV, Title IV, Chapter III., that only one attributable miracle is necessary for sainthood: as not all current saints have two. REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY AYE: Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Father Lajos Sandor Károly Father Carlos of Hyspia Jan Istvan Tibor Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Otho Episcopus Valwyck Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Alfred Episcopus Henrikev Manfried Cardinalis Providentia Vicary Episcopus Rochefort Monsignor Robert de Bourdon Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Adelric Episcopus Esbec Father Karl Kortrevich Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic Father Cyril Halcourt V). To add in Book V, Title II, Chapter I that inciting sedition against, questioning the legitimacy of or conspiring to harm the High Pontiff commits a crime and excommunicates himself automatically. This would involve a law stipulation that specifies what circumstances would justify such: such as disputing a legitimate election, or inciting violence against the High Pontiff as a person. REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY AYE: Otho Episcopus Valwyck Manfried Cardinalis Providentia Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Monsignor Robert de Bourdon Father Lajos Sandor Károly Father Carlos of Hyspia Jan Istvan Tibor Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Alfred Episcopus Henrikev Vicary Episcopus Rochefort Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Adelric Episcopus Esbec Father Karl Kortrevich Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic Father Cyril Halcourt VI). To add in Book V, Title II a chapter that describes Papal Briefs. PASSED BY COUNCIL. 3/4 MAJORITY ACHIEVED. AYE: Alfred Episcopus Henrikev Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Otho Episcopus Valwyck Manfried Cardinalis Providentia Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Monsignor Robert de Bourdon Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Father Lajos Sandor Károly Father Karl Kortrevich Father Cyril Halcourt Father Carlos of Hyspia Jan Istvan Tibor Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Vicary Episcopus Rochefort Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Adelric Episcopus Esbec Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic VII). To overhaul Book VI, Title II. Chapter III., rendering Minor Bulls ‘Archdiocesan Decrees’ and further streamlining them with the Golden Bulls of His Holiness. PASSED BY COUNCIL. 3/4 MAJORITY ACHIEVED. AYE: Alfred Episcopus Henrikev Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Otho Episcopus Valwyck Manfried Cardinalis Providentia Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Monsignor Robert de Bourdon Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Father Lajos Sandor Károly Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Adelric Episcopus Esbec Father Carlos of Hyspia Jan Istvan Tibor Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Vicary Episcopus Rochefort Father Karl Kortrevich Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic Father Cyril Halcourt VIII). [REMOVED] IX). To add in BOOK VII, Title I, that the High Pontiff may, on his own accord, assume the role of judge within a trial, and overturn the ruling of a lesser judge with a majority of the cardinals backing such. This would require prior approval from the College of Cardinals and should principally be only used in severely important procedures. REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY AYE: Alfred Episcopus Henrikev Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Otho Episcopus Valwyck Abbot Antonius Mihailo Visconti Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Monsignor Robert de Bourdon Father Lajos Sandor Károly Jan Istvan Tibor Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Manfried Cardinalis Providentia Vicary Episcopus Rochefort Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Adelric Episcopus Esbec Father Karl Kortrevich Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic Father Cyril Halcourt Father Carlos of Hyspia XIV). Basil's proposal to remove interdiction REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY AYE: Adelric Episcopus Esbec Father Karl Kortrevich Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Father Cyril Halcourt Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Father Lajos Sandor Károly Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Father Carlos of Hyspia Jan Istvan Tibor XV). Basil's proposal for tithes REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY AYE: Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Adelric Episcopus Esbec Father Karl Kortrevich Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Father Cyril Halcourt Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Father Lajos Sandor Károly Alfred Episcopus Henrikev Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Father Carlos of Hyspia Jan Istvan Tibor XVI). Basil's proposal for new laws pertaining to the rebuking of the High Pontiff. REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY AYE: Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Father Cyril Halcourt Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Father Lajos Sandor Károly Alfred Episcopus Henrikev Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Adelric Episcopus Esbec Jan Istvan Tibor ABSTAIN: Father Karl Kortrevich Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic Father Carlos of Hyspia Jan Istvan Tibor XVII). Basil's proposal pertaining to indulgences. REJECTED BY COUNCIL - NO 3/4 MAJORITY AYE: Father Dima Carrion-Tyuvic Javier Franscisco Altamarino NAY: Sanctitas Pontifex Maximus Owyn III Father Lajos Sandor Károly Alfred Episcopus Henrikev Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Francisco Episcopus Hyspia Adelric Episcopus Esbec Father Karl Kortrevich Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Father Cyril Halcourt Father Carlos of Hyspia Jan Istvan Tibor ----CARDINALS ONLY VOTE---- X). Although it is within the High Pontiff’s authority to venerate any Canonist at will, His Holiness seeks to gain popular approval for his nominees regardless: X.I).Empress Anne the August of Novellen REJECTED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF AYE: Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Manfried Cardinalis Providentia NAY: Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia X.II). His Holiness the High Pontiff James II PASSED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF AYE: Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Manfried Cardinalis Providentia NAY: Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia X.III). His Holiness the High Pontiff Pontian III PASSED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF AYE: Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Manfried Cardinalis Providentia NAY: Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia X.IV). Governor-General Richard de Reden REJECTED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF AYE: Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa NAY: Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Manfried Cardinalis Providentia ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia X.V). Vicar Lemuel de Langford REJECTED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF AYE: Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa NAY: Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Manfried Cardinalis Providentia ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia X.VI). Father Pius of Sutica PASSED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF AYE: Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Manfried Cardinalis Providentia NAY: ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia X.VII). Anton Barclay PASSED BY POPULAR VOTE, DECISION FOR PONTIFF AYE: Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Manfried Cardinalis Providentia NAY: ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia XI). To beautifyXI.I). Cardinal Erasmus von Getreide of Ves [UNDECIDED] AYE: Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa Manfried Cardinalis Providentia NAY: Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia XI.II). Queen Viktoria var Ruthern of Haense [REMOVED] XI.III). Krisztián Cardinalis Ves [UNDECIDED] AYE: NAY: Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia XI.IV). Queen Maya of Muldav REJECTED AYE: NAY: Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Manfried Cardinalis Providentia Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia XII). To beautify, and then proceed to CanonizeXII.I). Andrik ‘I’ Vydra PASSED AYE: Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Manfried Cardinalis Providentia NAY: ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia XII.II). John of Carnatia REJECTED AYE: Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar NAY: Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa Manfried Cardinalis Providentia ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia XII.III). Jasper of Renzfeld [Withdrawn, discussion pending]. - XII.IV). Otto II of Haense [Withdrawn, discussion pending]. - XIII). To Canonize, XIII.I). Vytenis of Luciensport [Withdrawn, discussion pending]. - XIII.II). High Pontiff Everard II PASSED AYE: Benedict Cardinalis Jorenus Pelagius Cardinalis Albarosa Ailred Cardinalis Reinmar Manfried Cardinalis Providentia ABSTAIN: Amadeus Cardinalis Nescia Edited January 28, 2021 by Draeris 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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