Shorsand 1744 Share Posted February 25, 2021 12 hours ago, ScreamingDingo said: If this isn't the Resource and War System Overwrite expansion I'll be mad. just wait for the barbarians Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARCHITECUS 4788 Share Posted February 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, Suicidium said: The matters of who did it, when it happened, and the plugin having problems do not change the reality of the situation. One nation has a free internal fast travel to a dependent settlement connected by land. Others do not, and may not in the future. Will that change? I hope so, as we have precedent as recent as the map art implementation. I think a more fair solution there would have been to offer every nation on the server map art of their choosing, but things are easier said than done. Addendum: The best solution here would be to offer each nation a free internal FT. When I bring up the point of possible removal, I'm just being a realist, not a hater. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan_Barnett36 1546 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Either fast travel is free for all or not. Can't have fast travels going to vassals which are clearly connected by path/ land and not let others have it. It specifically states that fast travel between a vassal and the capital is not allowed. Way I see it, even if the vassal wasn't connected by land, until the rules on FT change, it shouldn't be allowed since nations pick where vassals go. Why does Norland get a free FT to a vassal which is connected by land? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_pr0fit 2937 Share Posted February 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, Nathan_Barnett36 said: Either fast travel is free for all or not. Can't have fast travels going to vassals which are clearly connected by path/ land and not let others have it. It specifically states that fast travel between a vassal and the capital is not allowed. Way I see it, even if the vassal wasn't connected by land, until the rules on FT change, it shouldn't be allowed since nations pick where vassals go. Why does Norland get a free FT to a vassal which is connected by land? I agree with Nathan_barnett for once, we should remove Norlands fast travel in the interest in fairness, however, we should also in the interest of fairness, move all other nations capital builds further away from the hubs so that their travel times are in line with Norlands travel time. In fact, we should all be in line with haelunor, someone time how long it takes to swim from their road to their city! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotEvilAtAll 9912 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, _pr0fit said: I agree with Nathan_barnett for once, we should remove Norlands fast travel in the interest in fairness, however, we should also in the interest of fairness, move all other nations capital builds further away from the hubs so that their travel times are in line with Norlands travel time. Yo this means Elvenesse gets shorter walk times I’m all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_pr0fit 2937 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, NotEvilAtAll said: Yo this means Elvenesse gets shorter walk times I’m all for it. for real, your travel time is whack 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowgirl bebop 2240 Share Posted February 25, 2021 damn ya'll really arguing over minecraft roleplay again huh 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandhi 2435 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Based. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werew0lf 11729 Share Posted February 26, 2021 norland using the basis of travel time for why they have a free FT but it takes like 7-10 mins to walk to elvenesse and they don’t have shite with the current ferry, you can get to norland in 3 minutes, there’s nations that take the midrange of 5-8 minutes (krugmar included) who should also be given free travel 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypoacher 6991 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I think we should just compromise and let people put fast travels wherever. Between vassals and capitals, Between vassals and vassals, between some part of the road to Oren and the frog statue in the swamp. Who cares? More fast travels mean I waste less time walking around the gigantic, mostly featureless wasteland of Almaris, and more time making nations active. Fast travel availability isn't going to make me choose one settlement over another. What fast travels will do is ensure that I can travel between settlements, and prevent me from getting stuck in some decentralized corner of the map. Make them cheaper, too. Fast travels are a straight up improvement to the map, and they should only cost as much as the convenience they give to settlement owners. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laeonathan 3771 Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 hours ago, monkeypoacher said: I think we should just compromise and let people put fast travels wherever. Between vassals and capitals, Between vassals and vassals, between some part of the road to Oren and the frog statue in the swamp. Who cares? More fast travels mean I waste less time walking around the gigantic, mostly featureless wasteland of Almaris, and more time making nations active. Fast travel availability isn't going to make me choose one settlement over another. What fast travels will do is ensure that I can travel between settlements, and prevent me from getting stuck in some decentralized corner of the map. Make them cheaper, too. Fast travels are a straight up improvement to the map, and they should only cost as much as the convenience they give to settlement owners. "Important Note: This system is subject to change with time & feedback. Fast Travel between settlements within a Nation will be addressed after the initial trial period of the plugin." About the cost: Even far distances like Talon's-Norland only cost ~1000 Mina Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypoacher 6991 Share Posted February 26, 2021 13 hours ago, Laeonathan said: "Important Note: This system is subject to change with time & feedback. Fast Travel between settlements within a Nation will be addressed after the initial trial period of the plugin." About the cost: Even far distances like Talon's-Norland only cost ~1000 Mina yeah I'm just saying skip the awkward means testing phase and get right into it. fast travels would be a huge improvement, the people least likely to use it in a productive way are nation leaders trying to corral everyone into their capital I didn't fully read the pricing and honestly it seems pretty sane, you're right. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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