Gemini 1639 Share Posted May 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, NotEvilAtAll said: It says that MOJANG is allowed to use the creation of any other person and that MOJANG can permit other people to use said creations. “Please think carefully before you make any content available, because it may be made public and might even be used by other people in a way you don't like.“ 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooblius 5794 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I do think it's funny as it seems people almost want to be upset at Staff and assume the worst. Why not just ask if they are sure they had specific permission beyond paying $5 if you're concerned about it than assume they didn't and argue. I'm v disappointed in people's ability to critically think and ask questions, including my own. If you have any questions/concerns about how this was handled, then ask for the specifics and observe the answer; THEN make conclusions. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 12836 Share Posted May 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Nooblius said: I do think it's funny as it seems people almost want to be upset at Staff and assume the worst. Why not just ask if they are sure they had specific permission beyond paying $5 if you're concerned about it than assume they didn't and argue. I'm v disappointed in people's ability to critically think and ask questions, including my own. If you have any questions/concerns about how this was handled, then ask for the specifics and observe the answer; THEN make conclusions. couple things (1) the polite thing to do would be to announce where the build came from and link the video, even if it was paid for; (2) we have pics going around alleging to show that the creator DID NOT approve and, while these may be faked, some comment from whoever oversaw this would be nice idk dude i'm not going around calling (whoever the **** was in charge of the temp map; i honestly don't know) the child of satan, but to everyone citing this: Quote "If you make any content available on or through our Game, you agree to give us permission to use, copy, modify, adapt, distribute, and publicly display that content. This permission is irrevocable, and you also agree to let us permit other people to use, copy, modify, adapt, distribute, and publicly display your content." that's clearly Mojang saying that THEY might use your work for marketing and that stuff about "it may be used in a way you don't like" is just warning players that others WILL use their content if it's made public; it's not an endorsement of doing that. no, i do not believe LOTC will be sued if it's used this guy's stuff without his permission, but that's not the issue here. i don't think @Slorbin or the YouTuber filed a lawsuit against the server, or that it'd be successful if they did. but that isn't the issue. the issue is that it's cringe and makes us all look bad if the server did use some guy's build without his permission, so we're all like "WTF????" and wanna see what's up. so you guys can spare us the shitty attempts at lawyering. you aren't attornies and this case will never reach the supreme court; you can relax 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBlitzkrieg 1357 Share Posted May 21, 2023 People be crying over lantern builds now on a block game? Swear to God, only westerners find a way to make such small things a massive problem. Do something else with your time. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMuted 2459 Share Posted May 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, MisterBlitzkrieg said: People be crying over lantern builds now on a block game? Swear to God, only westerners find a way to make such small things a massive problem. Do something else with your time. Tf does "westerners" mean headass 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypoacher 6993 Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 5/21/2023 at 4:28 PM, Zolla_ said: when you publish something you created in minecraft you agree and accept what is written in the EULA Hide contents "If you make any content available on or through our Game, you agree to give us permission to use, copy, modify, adapt, distribute, and publicly display that content. This permission is irrevocable, and you also agree to let us permit other people to use, copy, modify, adapt, distribute, and publicly display your content." This is legal boilerplate for web services. Fall Guys uses the same verbiage. It is meant to keep the host/service provider out of trouble for distributing copyrightable stuff that users create and post to their service; you can't upload a custom Fall Guys map to Fall Guys Store then issue Epic Games a DMCA takedown notice if you want people to stop downloading it. What this language doesn't do is give any random third party (i.e. lord of the craft) permission to use that stuff, unless Mojang gives them permission (i.e. by making it available to download off their website, or use via realms, mojang texture packs or whatever) I don't think this issue will come down to the particulars of minecraft copyright law but it may be good for some of you to know that mojang's EULA does not give you the right to use other people's builds, or skins, or whatever, without their permission 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini 1639 Share Posted May 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, monkeypoacher said: this is legal boilerplate for web services. Fall Guys uses the same verbiage. It is meant to keep the host/service provider out of legal trouble for distributing copyrightable stuff that users create and post to their service. It does not give any random third party (i.e. lord of the craft) permission to use that stuff, unless Mojang gives them permission (i.e. by making it available to download off their website, or use via realms, mojang texture packs or whatever) I don't think this issue will come down to the particulars of minecraft copyright law but it may be good for some of you to know that mojang's EULA does not give you the right to use other people's builds, or skins, or whatever, without their permission No of course it does not. However this map has been paid for, money has changed hands in order to use it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypoacher 6993 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Just now, Gemini said: No of course it does not. However this map has been paid for, money has changed hands in order to use it. yeah that's cool and I hadn't read that, I just wanted to respond specifically to the post Zolla_ made because someone could get in trouble for following it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapphirePool 1098 Share Posted May 21, 2023 If the assets were paid for, then by all common sense it would be useable by the one paying for them correct? When it comes to credit, as was stated in the admin reply, there will be credit given in what I assume is similar fashion to how almaris cloud temple credit is shown. Lastly even if on the off chance the assets were taken and used for profit by another third party marketing them to make a buck, how would admins know that it wasn’t legitimate. Sure source checking is great, but how many people are meticulous enough to double triple check that what they bought wasn’t a stollen asset in the first place. Whilst the admins and specifically squak are being thrown under the bus with these accusations, you have to also remember they have spent countless hours every week for the past several months to make an enjoyable experience for everyone. Forgetting to credit someone as soon as the map was utilized is far from the first thing they will think to do. Remember to be kind, and know that nobodies perfect and they already said they will credit the YouTuber. Thank you to all the work admins, event ST, builders, and lore team have been doing to make the transition as smooth as feasible these past several months. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles The Bald 1787 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, NotEvilAtAll said: It says that MOJANG is allowed to use the creation of any other person and that MOJANG can permit other people to use said creations. You will debate with them for years on this without them ever grasping what the text is actually saying. Edited May 22, 2023 by Charles The Bald 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llir 5713 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2023 this is a wild game of gotcha being played on the forums today. next you're going to tell me that vailor was entirely ripped from PMC or something 33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles The Bald 1787 Share Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Llir said: this is a wild game of gotcha being played on the forums today. next you're going to tell me that vailor was entirely ripped from PMC or something I can't wait to see you in the accused box with you know who defending you. You cannot keep this up Llir ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Diogen 3061 Share Posted May 22, 2023 filler drama 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin 619 Share Posted May 22, 2023 map we're on for a week or so btw. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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