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Could be cool so long as this isn't forced to be the server antag. I can see how it can be the server antag, but I do not want anything to simply be the antag.

" My family is well versed in monsters and combat. I think we can handle your cave troll problem. -Neci Vincrute"

First or second cousin would probably be pretty weird just for genetic reasons

Stop getting me so hyped! I can't handle these emotions!

Is this about the curse? It was said a long time ago that curses trump blessings aka a half human/elf would still have the same lifespan as any other human

"I keep hearing of groups like these. Either this is a new trend or there is just one bored human" Neci would then burst into laughter with some of her more drunken customers

Addressing some apparent lore issues:

I think Kor is more like a gate keeper, he just keeps the dishonorable out

Due to Apohet creating the realm for the honorable and how the lore suggests honorable souls are siphoned there first, I would imagine it would not matter if your character even knew of the spirits so long as they were honorable

12 hours ago, Chamo said:

Orcish 'Honor' has always been equated in my mind to European Chivalry or much more so Bushido of Japan. It's less so a literal definition pulled from a dictionary website in an attempt to be blunt on the matter, but just a simple 2 word moniker that just breaks down to the way of life for Orcs. Orcs have a fairly heavily structured set of traditions and social ethics that they follow and they usually package these parts of their Culture into their every fibre of law and religion, which has always what Orcish Honor has been to me.  

 

Also to note I don't see the point in calling this, it's a relatively valid term to use that may only require brief explanation as to what it is and doesn't really deflate the points being made by Divine or anyone else who dare use 'Orcish Honor' leisurely.

I am bringing it up because a lot of people use 'orcish honor' as in being right in killing anyone who is weaker than you. Even with Bushido or European Chivalry, respect for yourself and respect for others is the basis of it and the heroes that are archetypes of honor often perform actions that almost make them seem humble. I also bring it up because I do not think that when the Wandering Wizard blessed the orcs with honor to combat their blood lust he had in mind orcish culture (Which probably took centuries after to develop into it's modern form) specifically, which Divine was trying to use to justify why it would be so hard for other races to get into the Stargush Stroh. I may have misinterpreted what Divine said, but it did seem  that he was putting orcish culture over honor.

@DivineJustice, you might want to look into how many dark elves venerate ancestors before making that claim. Most of Ker'nor ,and I believe the Warhawkes, venerate ancestors. I also noticed that the term 'orcish honor' is getting thrown around a lot so I am going to toss this here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/honor

So unless you mean orcish sense of honor as in their cultural way of showing respect or what one looks like when they have respect I suggest you refrain from using the term 'orcish honor'

3 hours ago, DivineJustice said:

 

Do not force Dark Elves into the Spirit Realm. Hellfiaz pushed his agenda which did no aid to the uruks, he did it for himself. The Dark Elves have no place in the Ancestral Plane and would have been banished by Krug, who still has the powers of Shamanism post death. Remove the Dark Elves from the Ancestral Plane if they have no honorable death to them. Suicide, death by alcohol, isn’t an honorable cause. And it would take one hell of a death for a Elf to land in Stargozh’Storh.

 

 

 

Was the lore for Apohet retconned or something? I honestly thought that daemon made his own realm for the honorable to spite Aeriel

Lore wise there are a few things wrong with Adunians, namely the fact that they don't have extended lives because of the elven blessing.

Half breeds being infertile honestly makes sense. The races are so genetically different  that the varied bodies can cause complications in the birthing process, it would make less sense if they were not literal races.

"Sick of these damned idiots screaming for genocide. Really thought we were done with this"Neci grummbled as she served up yet another drink

((What texture pack did you use?

Papers would be seen laying in the taverns and inns of all nations that were non-human

"     Do not forget that the only way one can be a rebel is if they decide to fight against something they were a part of. Our current human friends claim they will be overthrowing an old empire so that the world could be a better place. Don't be fooled. They just didn't like their emperor. Oren will survive through them and you will know it when they start making demands of us.

       To the dwarves, you know how business is. How long will it be before our human friends start to get jealous of your land? How long will it take for them to lust after more power?

        To the orcs, were the humans you fight with now not the same humans who sought your extinction just a few years ago? Do you honestly think these humans are any different from the empire they rebelled against? You are no more a friend to the humans now than you ever have.

        To the Dominion, you've suffered terrible things. Don't let your guard down now, there are already whispers among the rebels of destroying you. Seek reconciliation with your cousins, all of you will be stronger for it.

        To the high elves, you too have suffered much from the hands of humans. A race so logical, I am sure you already know that the rebels only valued you for support. Reconcile with your cousins in the Dominion.

         To the Warhawkes, you have been a wandering people for a long time. I wish your settlement the best of luck, but make sure your alliance with your fellow elves is strong. Your value in the eyes of humans is the same as everyone else's.

         I reiterate, do not forget that these rebels were grown in Oren. Do not think this will mean peace for the rest of us, we will all be forced to choose a side in the next war the humans have and our decision will be between great suffering or uneasy security. We cannot let the humans continue the dominate the rest of the world. Refuse them the next time they start another war. And if they start a war with one of us non-humans? Join them, not the humans."

"Death of an old nation... The rebels seem to have forgotten their roots. Soon enough they'll be making demands of others races at the threat of genocide" Neci grimly commented before throwing the paper into the tavern's fire

Why don't we just deal with the map we have, getting rather tiresome changing maps

"Good... I was sick of taking orders from humans, rebel or loyalist"Neci commented with an exuberant look

"We'll have to put the beast down before it gets at our wolves" Neci commented while she brought out her old recurve bow

"If I weren't worried about either human faction winning and then coming to murder my children because we were neutral... I'd gladly follow" Neci said after the topic was brought up

Name: Neci Vincrute

Age: 78

Race: elf

Do you know much about the Ancestors already?

What you've taught me

Which Ancestor do you favour most?

Kaldo

Which sect would you prefer once your initial training is complete?

Spirit Seer

-                  -

MC Name: Wanderingfriend

Skype: you have it

Seems like the only people who don't use the whole 10-15 years irregardless of gender are also the people who tend to rp poorly anyways, but yeah

Name : Neci Vincrute

Age: 89

Craft/Talent: Enchanter, blacksmith

Chest that is needed access to: Ore things

Do you swear dutifully to Ker'nor that you will give back to her in some sort of way:

Yes

A group of young dark elven males would be seen passing out fliers in Dominion territory

" As this karim passes to another, we look back and find things to change. Join us in celebration of a new year! Renew your outlook! Renew your vows! Renew yourself! Renew yourself for the ancestors!"

((January 3 at 7 est pm

Notes are tacked about Ker'nor

"   In order to create a better community a meeting is being held at the Night Lion tavern. Dates are not yet confirmed and citizens are encouraged to make suggestions until such"