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"An honest politician. A rare sight nowadays; I'm sad to see him go," comments Viktor.
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Father Yaromir utters a small prayer for Archbishop Benedict, thanking God for sending him to serve the Church.
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IGN: Pureimp10
RP NAME: Azkar Ireheart
CANDIDATE: Durorn Ireheart
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AULIC COURT OF THE KINGDOM OF HANSETI-RUSKA
ve Krawn z. Helvets
22nd of Gronna & Droba | 355 E.S.
Jovenaars
Mr. Lukas Rakoczy (Presiding)
Sir Sigmar Joren Baruch (Assistant)
Mrs. Erika Vanir (Assistant)
Prosecution
Duke Matyas Baruch
Defense
Richard Victor Helvets (Defendant)
Eleanora Mannox (Legal counsel)
THE FOLLOWING CHARGES WERE BROUGHT AGAINST THE DEFENDANT;
402.01: An individual who intentionally kills another shall be guilty of the severe offence of murder;
427.01: If an individual or group is convicted of attempting to commit a crime, they shall be issued a punishment equal to the punishment deserving of the actual crime committed.
THE FOLLOWING IS THE VERDICT BROUGHT BY THE JOVENAARS;
Jovenaar Rakoczy, joined by Baruch and Vanir;
The Defendant, Count Richard Victor Helvets, pleaded guilty to the charge of attempted murder, to which the punishment is death by beheading.
THE FOLLOWING IS THE RATIONALE FOR THE DECISION FROM THE PRESIDING JOVENAAR;
On the charge of Attempted Murder and the subsequent Death Sentence;
Jovenaar Rakoczy delivered the opinion of the court
The defendant, Count Richard Victor Helvets, used the chaos of the Karosgrad Riots in order to viciously attack his own daughter with the intent of murdering her. The act was done in public in the presence of dozens of witnesses. Despite a medical official labelling him not fully conscious and in the early stages of mind rot, it was the opinion of the Court that the risk to the public of keeping him alive was too great. Therefore, given his guilty plea, this court finds it just to execute him for his crime.
It is so ordered.
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AULIC COURT OF THE KINGDOM OF HANSETI-RUSKA
REVIEW ON THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS OF REPEATING PROPOSALS
5th of Wzuvar & Byvca, 355 E.S.
Jovenaars
Sir Sigmar J. Baruch
Ms. Reza B. Gynsburg
Mr. Otto Wittenbach
Mr. Lukas Rakoczy
MAJORITY: Rakoczy, joined by Gynsburg
CONCURRENCE: Wittenbach
DISSENT: Baruch
Exposition
A multitude of acts are rejected at the behest of the Duma vote, as has been seen in recent years. The Josefian reforms have also brought a period of great change to the procedure of the Duma. However, as the Duma cannot legislate on itself (see Aulic Court Review: Relationship Between the Royal Duma and the Aulic Government), this request for review must be issued.
As a sitting member of the Duma, and peer of the realm, the Duke of Valwyck sees fit to defer to the Aulic Court for a legal opinion on the following:
The Haurul Caezk states that a bill of the Royal Duma must be passed by majority vote and may become law with the confirmation of the Koeng following its majority vote, implicating that it is failed when said bill does not reach these requisites:
212.01: Members of the Duma may submit bills to the Royal Duma that must be passed by majority vote;
212.042: Once passed with a majority vote, a legislative bill shall require assent from the Crown to become binding law;
The question that should be raised is whether or not a bill that has failed to reach these requisites after being introduced in the Duma should have the ability to be reintroduced, unaltered, in the Duma sessions following its failure, including the cohort contrary to the one it was first presented in.
See the full amicus brief from Lord Matyas Baruch: https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/197497-letter-to-the-aulic-court-353-es/
Jovenaar Lukas Rakoczy delivered the opinion of the court;
The dispute focuses primarily on the question of whether legislation that has failed once may be re-introduced without modification during a meeting of another cohort. Even though noble cohorts have since been removed from the structure of the Royal Duma at the time of publication, the court still finds it pertinent to offer a judgement on this matter. It is the belief of the Aulic Court that the Royal Duma may not re-introduce failed legislation without major modification during the same four-year session. Any legislation that passes the Duma does so with the consent of the people, with legislators voting on behalf of and as the representatives of the people and the peers. Legislation that fails to pass, therefore, has clearly failed to attain the consent and support of the people, and to re-introduce such legislation would be to subvert the will of the people.
Jovenaar Sigmar J. Baruch in dissent;
On the dispute of re-introducing legislation without modification after failure to pass, this Jovenaar finds that through decades of set precedent and no objections to the matter found within the Haurul Caezk, it would be unprecedented and detrimental to the ability of the Royal Duma to restrict members of the body from introducing bills to the floor. Furthermore, it is not the place of the Aulic Courts to legislate on the abilities of members of the Royal Duma which directly affects their service within the Duma, it is only the Aulic Courts place to protect precedent, and interpret the Law. It is the ability of Duma members to introduce legislation in hopes of it becoming written law, therefore we should not restrict the capacity in which members can do this and take part in the writing and introducing of legislation.
IT IS SO ORDERED.
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"I vote aye." Father Thomas bowed his head to the Pontiff and took a seat.
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"An interesting question. I look forward to debating this with my fellow Jovenaar's," commented Lukas Rakoczy!
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"A true Haeseni patriot. I am proud to serve alongside Tarathiel in the Duma. May her family prosper and serve Haense faithfully," commented Lukas Rakoczy upon seeing the poster.
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3 minutes ago, 0zark said:
Ozark Mondblume would scoff at the statements made in the mistreatment of Hektor Stafyr he'd speak to himself in front of his fire hearth, "While it may be true the HRA is not perfect in all arrests made this arrest was by far and away conducted in a responsible manner despite Lord Stafyr publicly slandering the HRA prior to arrest and continuing to moan and cry like a child from deep within the dungeons so loudly it could be heard across the entire city. I assume this 'assault' he must be referring to must have been when he was poked during his interrogation." scoffing to himself whilst feeling his bristle, "Some nobles have become so soft these days. It's a wonder if he could even pickup a sword to man the wall."
"Actually they're talking about when he was kneed in the groin for no reason," commented Viktor, who witnessed the whole arrest!
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"Imagine thinking one should be able to get away with calling for the King, Queen, and the whole army to be killed. What did these fools expect? These Wicks continue to show that they are exactly what people think of them, perhaps less so," says Viktor.
"We are freer than ever before! Four more years," shouts Lukas Rakoczy! Vote Rakoczy for Tribune
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IGN: Pureimp10
Character Name: Lukas Rakoczy
Age: 45
Place of Residence / Street Address: Amelya IV
Position: (Alderman, Tribune or Maer) Tribune
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I wish for a face reveal from james2k please
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IGN: Pureimp10
Character Name: Lukas Rakoczy
Age: 42
Place of Residence / Street Address: Amelya IV
Position: (Alderman, Tribune or Maer) Tribune
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I’m glad that me logging on and bugging the builders has gotten such a positive response
Super excited to RP here next map!
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((MCname)): Pureimp10
Name: Viktor Rauen
Age: 21
Are you a citizen of Haense?: Yes
Are you a knight of Haense?: Squire
Which event do you desire to compete in (Joust, Fisticuffs, Archery)?: Joust, Fisticuffs, Archery
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13 hours ago, BenevolentManacles said:
A lawyer picks apart the document, drunk and shouting at his colleague, Mr. Skingaard. He says mostly nonsense, though he points out, “They were expelled, they did not secede. Good riddance to such uneducated lots.”
Ed Selm proceeds to finish his drink and pass out on Skingaard’s dining table, uninvited.
“Cope,” says former President of Oren Lukas Rakoczy, standing beside official portraits of former President Terrence May, former President Lauritz Christiansen, former President Konrad Stafyr, and former President Konstantin Wick.
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A letter bearing the seal of the Leader of the Opposition, Lukas Rakoczy arrives at Varoche Hall.
“To my fellow Members of the House of Commons,
A cabinet secretary as the leader of this body does not sit well with me. An unchecked cabinet member is how Edward Galbraith was able to effectively control the city government of Helena. The President must be an elected representative that is not affiliated with any other branch of government. As the Leader of the Opposition, it is my honor to nominate Edwin Winter for the position of President of Commons.
Signed,
Lukas Rakoczy MHC”
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Lukas Rakoczy (vote Rakoczy 1786) prepares to empty his bank account. “That portrait will be mine..”
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The former President of Oren (vote Rakoczy 1786) woke up to a paper taped to his face and the sound of nails being hammered into his front door. He smiled, knowing what this meant. “Finally.”
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The former President of Oren (vote Rakoczy 1786) smiled at the announcement. “She was always kind. I have high hopes for her!”
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To the Supreme Court,
This letter is penned by several former Members of the Commons of the 18th Imperial Diet, hereafter “the Respondents”, in response to the Request for Judicial Review published by Mr. Conrad Barclay, hereafter “the Appellant”, and shall herein demonstrate to the Supreme Court that the Second Lemonade Legal Reforms, hereafter “the Reforms”, present no constitutional issues.
The Respondents respectfully reject the Appellant’s submission that the Reforms are in conflict with ORC604.02, providing that “the Imperial Diet’s functions and legislation, as a whole, are prohibited from interaction with the following matters of state, which remain the exclusive purview of the Crown as the executive”. This response will endeavour to justify this rejection by demonstrating to the Court that (1) militias cannot be construed to hold the same meaning as the military and obligations of peerage do not qualify as a matter of state, and (2) that the Court can construct the wording of ORC604’s restrictions to mean the Imperial State Military and not the militias of peers.
Matters of State
The Respondents begin by submitting to the Court that the exact wording of ORC604.02 provides that the Imperial Diet cannot interact with the military or the appointment of officers, the Crown, diplomacy or the creation or dissolvement of political parties. ORC604.02 clearly defines these four jurisdictions as “matters of state”. The Respondent thus submit that the obligations of peers and the management of their estates do not fall within the classification as an exclusive matter of state, and thus “militia” as prescribed by the Reforms cannot be construed to hold the same meaning as “the military” as referenced in ORC604.02.
Constructed Meaning
The Respondents further submit that in consideration of the General Provisions and Definitions of the Oren Revised Code, “the military” should be construed to mean “the Imperial State Military” under the exclusive purview of the Council and Head of State and not informal militias raised by peers.
Signed,
Former President Rakoczy on behalf of Members of the Commons
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VOTE ON THE
JUDICIARY SALARY AMENDMENT ACT
AYE
Rakoczy
C. Barclay
O. Barclay
Wick
Baruch
Kortrevich
Christiansen
NAY
Stahl-Elendil
O’Rourke
Bykov
ABSTAIN
Galbraith
ABSENT
Carrion
Majority is achieved and the bill is passed.
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SITTING OF THE 18TH IMPERIAL DIET
SUN’S SMILE, 1784
Present:
Lukas Rakoczy;
Jonah Stahl-Elendil;
Conrad Barclay;
George Galbraith;
Padraig O’Rourke;
Konstantin Wick;
Sigmar Baruch;
Juliyus Kortrevich;
Angelika Bykov;
Lauritz Christiansen.
Absent:
Osvald Barclay;
Ostromir Carrion.
Lukas Rakoczy: “This sitting of the 18th Imperial Diet is now in session.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Before we begin, Mr Leader.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “I must report that the motion to remove article two from the Judiciary Salary Act failed to achieve majority during absentee voting.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Then we'd better figure something out today if we want to actually make a change.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Ooh, judiciary salary.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Leader, you may declare the agenda for this sitting.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Lauritz, I would've liked your opinions on this one last time. Thank you for coming, maybe we can actually make something work.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Honorable Members of the Diet.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “My absence was warranted by a bout of sickness.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Well I am happy you are feeling better. Now, we have two Judicial confirmations today, as well as the discussion of a potential third. Furthermore, we shall continue the discussion of the Judicial Salary bill.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Shall we do the confirmations or the bill first?”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Let's do the bill, first.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “The biggest issue that has arisen is one of fairness.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Do we allow the Supreme Court members to pursue free enterprise outside of their bench, if we make their pay a case by case basis?”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Or, do we continue to pay them a yearly salary.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Mister Wick has decided to abstain indefinitely on this matter...even though he wrote the thing.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “So, it is up to us.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “We'll move to unmoderated debate on this then.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “I do not believe it is fair to limit a mans ability to earn an income, when his income is dependent on whether or not there is a constitutional question in the Courts.”
Angelika Bykov: “Hear, hear!”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “We must either pay them a yearly salary, or let them pursue businesses. I for one, support a yearly salary.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “And I am of the opinion that it is not fair to the Empire as a whole to allow these justices to furthur their bias.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I think all justices should be paid on a yearly business while being allowed to pursue their own businesses. It is only fair, really.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Provide free housing and board for them,”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Remove the yearly salary.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “That's not how this works, Konstnatin.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “Nor should they get fat off the the people's money for doin' nothin'.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “We pay people pensions, don't we?2.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “Niet somethin' I voted for nor would Ah 'ave, unless its for veterans.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Mister Konstantin's suggestion is quite agreeable.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “What about it doesn't work? Their essential expenses are mitigated and they are paid for work done.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “No one should have free housing.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Apart from the homeless.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “It is not free.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “It is payment for their services.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Shall I limit your decisions in life because of your position, Konstantin?”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Economic freedom means being able to use the money you earned for what you wish.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “Sides, the people on the bench 'ave already made qui'e a pretty mina 'fore takin' it up, if they do nie' 'ave enough to live off of after takin' the bench, it's cause they spend too frivolously.”
Conrad Barclay: “There are judicial reviews and appeals being made constantly; they'd earn a fine wage off dealing with those cases if they just hurried up about it.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “I don't understand what is limiting about it. It's a line of work voluntarily undertaken that attracts little business.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I still firmly believe that all justices, whether supreme court or not, should have a yearly salary, and be allowed to have businesses.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “It is the bulwark of our Imperial Legal system. It ends there, and should be rewarded.”
Conrad Barclay: “Allowing them to have business is insane.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “They remain paid for the work they undertake and have their essential expenses mitigated.”
Conrad Barclay: “They can't recuse themselves.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Seems like an apt compromise to me.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Housing is not payment.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Good point, Barclay.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “It's not sole payment, and it is a form of payment, yes.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Housing normally constitutes a considerable expense for the common man.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Mister Barclay is wholely in the right, we cannot allow these justices to run a buisness.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Yearly salary, yearly salary for all justices, for all justices!”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Or hold any major role in one.”
Conrad Barclay: “Many jobs are paid by wages rather than salaries; why are the Supreme Court Justices above a wage?”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Because their wage is dependent on the courts sending cases to them.”
Conrad Barclay: “Which happens regularly.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “It is inconsistent and unfair.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “It is not regular enough.”
Conrad Barclay: “A builder's wage is dependent on there being houses to build. It doesn't always happen, but it happens often enough.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “So are the wages of the commoner.”
Conrad Barclay: “The Supreme Court lets cases sit for years - that's their own problem.”
Conrad Barclay: “This would encourage them to speed things up.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “Ah'll tell ye wha's unfair, them sittin' on their arses twittlin' their thumbs while their pockets grow wit' mina tha' they've done nothin' to deserve.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “The Highest Court in the Empire is not 'nothing', Mister Baruch.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “It is when they do nie' 'ave cases, Mister Elendil.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Is how much justices are paid really that big of an issue?”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Supreme Court or not.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “I will entertain a proposition of adding free housing and board to the bill, if anyone wishes to pursue,”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Mister Baruch.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I'd stick to everyone having a yearly salary, seems fair to me.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “You are unfamiliar with how the system works.”
Angelika Bykov: “But Sir Wick, how would this be enforce?”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “How do you mean?”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “As I stated before, I believe this addition to the bill is quite agreeable. It closes any gaps that inadequite cases may cause.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “Ah'm familiar qui'e familiar, Mister Konstantin's offer is fair, if they wan' a form o' payment for nie' 'aving cases, there it is.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “I will not accept it. A salary, or opened business ventures.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Is it your place to accept this?”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Hm... What quality would this free housing have, Sir Wick?”
Angelika Bykov: “Hmph...if it is between that, than a salary, Mr. Elendil.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “So either conflicts o' interest, or lack o' work is rewarded?”
Conrad Barclay: “Wages are fine; leave the bill as it is.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “I'm not much of an architect, Let's go with 'nice'.”
Angelika Bykov: “What is worse, losing a fraction of Imperial funds per week, or having biased justices.”
Conrad Barclay: “The justices aren't starving; they can be paid by the work they do.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Ahem. If I may, actually.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “That money can go very quick when there are no cases to be heard, Mister Barclay.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “After you.”
Angelika Bykov: “And da, that was my main concern, Sir Christiansen.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Wait, you all pay taxes?”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “If we take a look at Treasury requisition records going back, you can see they're not...well, actively claimed.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “We might be inclined to deduce that money does not seem to be a particular priority. What started this bill was a Justice trying to claim several years worth of salary at once.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “More recently, someone tried to claim 40 years of salary!”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “What the ****?”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Pardon me.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “He was a Circuit, of course, but it's...an interesting example.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Wait, Circuit isn't paid though.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Point being, I don't think our Justices are towing the poverty line.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “I am personally unconvinced that they need frequent and generous salaries in view of these Treasury Requisitions.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “But the principle of this bill, says that we can limit a mans ability to earn an income in far too many ways.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “They are forced to ignore private enterprise, or give up their position as the highest law officers of the country.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “The top legal minds and experts, who we trust to be impartial, are severely limited in so many ways because of this bill.”
Angelika Bykov: “If you believe the salaries are generous, then I would be open to revising them, but I believe the frequent salaries are necessary.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Which they voluntarily undertake and are awarded for the work done. I see no reason to pay them for years in which they do no work; we have a responsibility to be prudent with the money of this Empire.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Misses Bykov, do you truely believe that paying men for no work is necessity?”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “That's not the question here, Mister Kortrevich.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “How about a tax exemption, then with with a salary per case?”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “So, I advocate that we afford them free housing and board and pay them by work.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Are you amending your bill, Sir Wick?”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “That is not how the economy works, Mister Wick.”
Angelika Bykov: “They are hardly rewarded, Sir Wick. And it is not their fault that cases are rare, Mr. Kortrevich.”
Conrad Barclay: “Builders, plumbers, masons, miners, farmers, and many more are only paid a wage.”
Conrad Barclay: “Justices rarely even claim their salaries.”
Conrad Barclay: “They can accept a wage too.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “But it is indeed their fault for being plump 'n lazy!”
Angelika Bykov: “Da, but labor jobs are much more frequent.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Laborers in /most/ parts of the country, where feudalism is not the law of the land.”
Conrad Barclay: “There's a new case for the court every year or two.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Can go pursue their work.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “I think the amendment to be appropriate and fairer, Mr. President.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “The Justices cannot seek more work.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Very well, as the author of the bill, you are permitted to amend it.”
Conrad Barclay: “They can.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Please make the appropriate changes on the bill itself.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “How, Mister Barclay.”
Conrad Barclay: “They can work for the Crown.”
Conrad Barclay: “Either there are many cases and their wage is sufficient, or there are few cases and they can take on side-work in the bureaucracy.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “That again.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Opens them up to bias.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “You want a case regarding Ministry of Interior or Foreign Affairs to go to the supreme court?”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “And find out that the Chief Justice works for the Interior as well?”
Conrad Barclay: “Well, legally speaking, they can already do that. So you'd want to pass a bill there if that's a concern.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “If you want an impartial court, you need to pay for that.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “So is it only Supreme Court Justices that get tax exemptions, or all justices? According to this amendment, that is.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Pay the judges their salary, don't let them collect back pay of more than two years.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Circuit Justices are paid less than Supreme Court Justices, surely they should be allowed a tax exemption, as well?”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Circuit Justices aren't paid at all.”
Conrad Barclay: “Circuit Justices can take on other work and have business interests as they please.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Which is the only good thing about this bill, paying them.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Wick, how about a tax exemption for all justices!”
Angelika Bykov: “Niet, that simply won't work.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “We need tax revenue too, Mister Christiansen.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “I think that unnecessary. Supreme Court Justices will now no longer need to pay tax and Circuit Justices can pursue business.”
Angelika Bykov: “I doubt the provinical governments will agree to such.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Give men their money.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “The Lemonade Business isn't as profitable as it used to be.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Don't let them collect more than two years back pay.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Mister Stahl-Elendil, this still does not fix the issue of payment for no work.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I do like the sound of rewarding proactive and diligent justices more than lazy ones.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Frankly, Mister Kortrevich.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “You don't understand how the economy works.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Or what constitutes 'work'.”
Angelika Bykov: “I can assure you all that with a different Palatine of Haense, free housing and essentials for Haeseni justices will not be granted.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “The view of this issue is so narrow, that you run the risk of creating more problems.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I hard the next Palatine of Haense is currently a seven year old boy.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “*Frankly*, Mister Stahl-Elendil, I do not care what you think I understand.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “How can ye assure such? Do ye speak on behalf of the haeseni government?”
Angelika Bykov: “Naturally, Sir Wick will not always serve such a position. We can not legislate just for the present, but for the future as well.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Well, if we put it in law, they have no choice but to do it.”
Angelika Bykov: “But they won't. It will not be enforced.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “I don't see why it wouldn't be, personall.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “If we're going to talk about the enforcement of Imperial laws, we'll be here all day.”
Angelika Bykov: “Niet, of course I don't speak on behalf of the Haeseni government, Sir Baruch, it is simply common sense.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Yearly salary, prevent collection of back pay after two years.”
Angelika Bykov: “And that is a fair point, Mr. Elendil.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “We can even adjust the pay amount.”
Angelika Bykov: “But it is simple. Free housing will simply not work in the long run.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “But this is a bad bill in the philosophical and in the functional.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Will we have a vote today?”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “A yearly salary means paying someone for a year of work in which no work is done. It's a failure to fulfill our financial obligations to the Orenian public, I think.”
Angelika Bykov: “I doubt it, at this rate.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Misses Bykov, what do you mean that it will not work? The argument was that a justice could not live off a wage, this fixes that issue.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “It is fiscally iresponsible for the government to pay a court tha' is ne'er in session, it is fiscally responsible to pay a court for holdin' sessions.”
Angelika Bykov: “Such a law is hardly enforcable. A yearly salary is the best option.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Mister Wick, the Supreme Courts workload does not solely exist based on their own efforts but on the efforts of other judges in the circuit that I would like to actually confirm today.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Do you pay Imperial taxes, Sigmar?”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Mr. President.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Sir Wick.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “Nie' Ah do niet, but looking out for the people yer levying taxes against is the duty of a member of the house of commons Mister Elendil.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “I remain in abstention. The House may call for a vote on its own accord.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “I don't want to hear about fiscal responsibility when it isn't your money that's going to these judges.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Seconded.”
Angelika Bykov: “Hear, hear!”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “You need to make the motion first.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Was a motion introduced?”
Lukas Rakoczy: “You are seconding nothing, Mr Leader.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “So I motion for a vote.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Seconded.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Alright, the motion is heard and seconded. I shall call the roll.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “I shall vote aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Stahl-Elendil.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Nay.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Barclay.”
Conrad Barclay: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Galbraith.”
George Galbraith: “Abstain.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr O'Rourke.”
Padraig O'Rourke: “Nay.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Sir Wick.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Well, this has turned into quite the pickle,”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Your vote, Sir.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Bah,”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Kortrevich.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Da.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mrs Bykov.”
Angelika Bykov: “Nay.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Sir Christiansen.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I believe I must compromise on my ideals this time. Aye... Out of the principle that circuit justices should be paid. I hope the House will revisit this matter later, however.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Baruch.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “On this matter, the ayes are six, the nays are three, and the abstentions are one. The bill has not achieved majority and shall be decided through absentee voting.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Members will have twenty four Saint's hours following the publication of today's transcript to vote.”VOTE ON THE
JUDICIARY SALARY AMENDMENT ACT
AYE
Rakoczy
C. Barclay
Wick
Baruch
Kortrevich
Christiansen
NAY
Stahl-Elendil
O’Rourke
Bykov
ABSTAIN
Galbraith
ABSENT
O. Barclay
Carrion
Majority is NOT achieved and the matter shall be decided by way of absentee voting. Members shall have twenty-four Saint’s hours to vote. The matter requires ONE vote to achieve a majority.
Lukas Rakoczy: “Let us proceed. Mr Leader, what is next on the agenda?”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Well...onto a happier note.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “The Lords can't deny something,”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Mister Christiansen.”
George Galbraith: “Hm- seems irrational to put Justices on such welfare programs by fiscally limiting their actions.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “If Basileus is here, shouldn't I go last?”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Ah, there you are.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Mister Baelius, please, come down.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Let us hear you.”
Basileios Baelius: “One moment, gentlemen.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Baelius, please come forward and present yourself to this body.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Baelius. You have been nominated by the Stahl-Elendil ministry to become a Circuit Court Justice.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “You can introduce yourself and give a brief overview of your experience, and then we shall proceed to unmoderated debate where members will have the opportunity to question you.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “You may begin your introduction.”
Basileios Baelius: “Honourable Members of the House of Commons. I am honoured to have been nominated by the esteemed Archchancellor for a position so important to the Imperial Justice system. But one does not get such nomination without the proper qualification. I have been a servant of the Imperial Justice system for roughly fifteen years now. I began within the Ministry of Justice.”
Basileios Baelius: “I became a Lawclerk under Mr. Farooq Gray at the age of fifteen, I read the entirety of the Oren Revised Code before my seventeeth birthday and rose to Attorney-General within four years of service to the system.”
Basileios Baelius: “I understand and know the methods of the legal courts. I have served within them for half of my life. I am currently Assistant Solicitor-General, only further proving by the amount of trust given within the Ministry of Justice, of my abilities within the methods of our legal system. Justice has been my life. I have read the Oren Revised Code multiples times throughout my existance. I have read and attempted to improve upon our methods.”
Basileios Baelius: “I am a humble servant of the law, of the Code. I am believer in Justice and thereby bringing it forth to the people of our Empire. I live and breathe for the weapon most mighty to our internal structure - that of law and of order. And as Justice within our Courts, that shall be my contribution to the Imperial Lands.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “If that's it, then we'll proceed to unmoderated debate.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Any recent cases, sir?”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Members may question the nominee freely.”
Basileios Baelius: “As the sole Solicitor of the Ministry of Justice for a period of three years - I have represented a varity of people. My most recent case would've been that of The Crown v. Alimar. As Assistant Solicitor-General, a lot of my personal service have been provided to improvement of the Ministry of Justice. Closer inspections and suggestions of improvement of the legal system, as Mr. Elendil would be able to confirm.”
Basileios Baelius: “My personal service has been provided to improvement of the Ministry of Justice. Closer inspections and suggestions of improvement of the legal system, as Mr. Elendil would be able to confirm.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “That the one with the, ah... Kharjyr?”
Basileios Baelius: “That'd be correct.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “I remember that one, As I recall it was a bit of an odd one.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Charges filed under injury against the person relating to a non-person.”
Basileios Baelius: “It was a complicated case with multiple individuals involved both on the part of the Ministry, as well as, a change of Justice in the middle of the case. The case did reach a proper conclusion a couple of Saint Days ago.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Oh, truly? What was the verdict?”
George Galbraith: “I believe they arrived at a plea deal. Not sure what the terms were, though.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Mhm. I was just...well, slightly concerned that the Ministry was filing charges under injuries against the person in relation to a non-person. I've no sympathy for Alimar, mind you, but being a Judge....”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “ .. Well, following the law in its written form is a big part of that.”
George Galbraith: “Well, they did recognize the Kha had the Right to Life, a key concern when the Kha was attacked.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “It was still alive, wasn't it?”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “Is Right to Life encompassed under Injuries Against the Person?”
George Galbraith: “A possible attack can infringe on a Kha's Right to Life.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “If I recall rightly, Rights are in the Addendum.”
Basileios Baelius: “The Defendant agreed to a plea agreement between the Crown and the Defendant. We resulted in dropping the charges of the ORC 206 against Mr. Alimar, but Mr. Alimar did plead guilty to the charges of morality. We're all bound to have different views upon the methods of the law. There is a key difference between that of the prosecution and that of the Justice. It was within my belief as the Prosecution-.”
Basileios Baelius: “Of the crime commited by Mr. Alimar, that these laws would apply to the individual. I charged Mr. Alimar with the laws breached by the crime itself - thereby doing my service as the Prosecution in properly charging the criminal.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “It's not a question of interpretation, though. The subpoena was filed with charges under injuries against the person, and these Khattajyr, are clearly defined as non-people.”
Sir Konstantin Wick: “I'm not taking a side, mind you, nor do I think he should not have been prosecuted. I just wanted to hear your perspective on the matter.”
Angelika Bykov: “Kharajyr,”
Basileios Baelius: “As a Justice, of course, a difference applies. One must look closer to the law on the side of a Justice - I have read the law, I know the law. But - I will do the work required by my office, Ministry or Justice, as it shall be done. If one cannot do the work of which the specific request, my current office requiring utmost attention to bringing all crimes forward to the Justice, then I do not personally one is fit for any form of office.”
Basileios Baelius: “As a Justice, closer inspection shall occur of the law - closer knowlegde, more direct approach to that of written note. For that is the office of the Justice; not the office of the Solicitor. If I cannot protect and perform that of which my office is required; as a Solicitor, that would be bringing forth those crimes of which I did, then I fail as a Solicitor. I do not intend to fail as a Solicitor nor as a Justice.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Are there any more questions for the nominee?”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I motion to vote.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Seconded.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Very well, the motion is heard and seconded. I shall call the roll.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “I shall vote aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Stahl-Elendil.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Barclay.”
Conrad Barclay: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Galbraith.”
George Galbraith: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr O'Rourke.”
Padraig O'Rourke: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Baruch.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Kortrevich.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Da.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mrs Bykov.”
Angelika Bykov: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Sir Christiansen.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “The ayes are nine, the nays are zero. The nominee is confirmed as a Circuit Court Justice.”
VOTE ON THE
CONFIRMATION OF BASILEIOS BAELIUS AS A CIRCUIT JUDGE
AYE
Rakoczy
Stahl-Elendil
C. Barclay
Galbraith
O’Rourke
Baruch
Kortrevich
Bykov
Christiansen
ABSENT
O. Barclay
Carrion
Majority is achieved and the nominee is confirmed.
Lukas Rakoczy: “Congratulations Mr Baelius.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Well done.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Now, we call Mister Christiansen to the floor.”
Basileios Baelius: “I thank the Honourable Member of the House. I shant disappoint.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Sir Christiansen, please step forward.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Hello, hello.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I assume I have to make a kind of introduction, right?”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Well, I'll start with the fact that I'm resigning my seat in the House of Commons, effective immediately, if the President will allow me.”
George Galbraith: “Well, does he?”
Lukas Rakoczy: “This is certainly unprecedented, but your resignation is approved. This body thanks you for your countless years of service to the Orenian people.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Good, I assume we can proceed then.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “With that Sir, you have been nominated to serve as a Circuit Court Justice.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “If you wish to give an introduction you may, though I don't believe there's anyone here that does not know you already.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I doubt there is, either. Though, I do press that I was a judge once before, and that I'd wager none know the law better than I, except for mayhaps Konstantin.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “If that's it, then we'll proceed to questioning.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Are there any questions for Sir Christiansen?”
George Galbraith: “I motion to vote, if none.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Is there a second?”
Angelika Bykov: “I second.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Very well, the motion is heard and seconded. I shall call the roll.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “I shall vote aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Stahl-Elendil.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Barclay.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr O'Rourke.”
Padraig O'Rourke: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Baruch.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mr Kortrevich.”
Juliyus Kortrevich: “Da.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Mrs Bykov.”
Angelika Bykov: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Sir Chr-”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “I would've voted nay, had I the option.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “The ayes are seven, the nays zero. The nominee is confirmed.”VOTE ON THE
CONFIRMATION OF SIR LAURITZ CHRISTIANSEN AS A CIRCUIT JUDGE
AYE
Rakoczy
Stahl-Elendil
C. Barclay
Galbraith
O’Rourke
Baruch
KortrevichBykov
ABSENT
O. Barclay
Carrion
Majority is achieved and the nominee is confirmed.
Lukas Rakoczy: “Congratulations, Lauritz.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “Thank you for the continued trust, my former colleagues.”
Sir Sigmar Baruch: “We done? Ah'm fook'n starvin', got a feast to get to.”
Sir Lauritz Christiansen: “May you continue to create prosperity for us all, while I will uphold the law.”
Conrad Barclay: “Aye.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Make that eight ayes.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “Is there anything else on the agenda for today, Mr Leader?”
Angelika Bykov: “Indeed. Thank you for your service, Sir Christiansen.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “No, that is it.”
Angelika Bykov: “I wish you the best of luck in the Circuit.”
Jonah Stahl-Elendil: “Right, that about does it.”
Lukas Rakoczy: “In that case, this sitting of the 18th Diet is adjourned.”0 -
VOTE ON THE
BACKPAYMENT ACT
AYE
Rakoczy
Stahl-Elendil
C. Barclay
Galbraith
Carrion
Baruch
Bykov
Christiansen
ABSTAIN
Wick
Kortrevich
ABSENT
O. Barclay
O’Rourke
Majority is achieved and the bill is passed.
VOTE ON THE
REMOVAL OF ARTICLE TWO FROM THE JUDICIARY SALARY ACT
AYE
Stahl-Elendil
C. Barclay
Galbraith
Carrion
Bykov
Christiansen
NAY
Baruch
Kortrevich
ABSTAIN
Rakoczy
Wick
ABSENT
O. Barclay
O’Rourke
After twenty-four Saint’s hours for absentee voting, majority is still not achieved and the motion fails.
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