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I don't play but I saw this and thought I'd speak up, since it isn't mentioned in the main post. Keeping a main road available to navigate to nations keeps things user friendly, especially when it comes to new players who do not yet understand how soul stones work, or who may only have one slot to save a pillar to. As much as I agree things should be left to rp, it's nice to keep things like this restricted to some extent to maintain some order.

I voted no. The reason I voted no is because I don't think ftbing is the problem here. Ftb is general to cut any explicit content when it gets to a point that it is no longer server appropriate. The issue is people who push rp to "borderline server appropriate", which, imo, is and should still be against the rules. If anyone is making you do rp that's uncomfortable to you, you should tell them that it isn't appropriate and/or get moderation involved.

The beauty of roleplay is that everyone has their own way of doing it. There's no "understanding" courting. It varies by culture and further by person. Some communities have cultural guides made for people to follow if they so wish, some people prefer not to partake at all. It's not this black and white thing that you're making it out to be, and it doesn't need to be either. 

There's something to be said here for sure, but I also think there's a lot of confusion due to the lack of clarity or explanation by whoever handled this situation, whether moderators were the first ones there or if it was entirely handled by administration.

From my understanding, Acre is part of Oren. That would categorize this as an "internal conflict", not a "raid". A raid, by definition in the rules is an external party of players that are attacking a nation/lair/settlement. To be able to figure out who is PART of an internal conflict, in the past I know we have used regions... but I am confused why only Oren's region was considered. People who were part of both regions should have been able to stay and continue the rp, as I would imagine that acre remains under Oren as one of their child regions.

I understand that there's a lot of pressure and frustration being the one in charge of this conversation and decision making, but "cope and seethe" in ooc rather than providing an explanation and hearing what everyone has to say isn't the answer. These conflict rule changes were made to be able to enable rp, as itdontmatta himself announced. Just because you are a moderator or admin does not mean you're always right. Take the time to think about your decision, consult other staff members, discuss with players (they don't always bite) and come up with a solution that is fair.

I liked it better when we had local auction houses rather than the global one. Could travel to different places and have a new selection. 

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You have freed yourself. Big respect.

I appreciate what you had to say. Maybe we have butt heads before, but it's never malicious or with intent to put you down or call you wrong. I have more of a "debate" approach to things sometimes so that I can fully take a side once I have the facts straight. Thanks for your kind and understanding words. Will be real weird without you around.

Best of luck in what you're off to do, say hi sometime. :)

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This was brought up in mod manager chat today actually - funny you mention me in it.

I have no problem hiding them if they pass 24 hours of being up without update. It's just that we don't really see them all the time. If there are any posts you want us to clear out of the reserved posts (when they have been sitting), just report it so we can view and leave a comment on it if there are multiples so that we know to look through all comments.

The fact that you tagged me has warmed my heart.

Come talk to me and tell me what we can do better. No one should feel oocly targeted or pushed out of the community.

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On 11/19/2021 at 10:29 AM, _Sug said:

Thoughts on making the players do a draft of the destruction build then presenting it to the WT/Build Team to perform tweaks and small alterations if needed? If it's shite it's shite and deny the "heist" as it would have to be shown before hand in an application with screenshots and the sort?

Genuinely that would be a huge huge help, but I also don't think players will want to do that. I'll play around with some ideas and see what I can come up with that might be suitable.

1 hour ago, Arcean said:

I believe if the staff team were more transparent, they could deal with the most obvious reason for staff hate. I also believe this is not something that you can do on your own but just working with transparency would change a lot from the player's perspective. Even though you can't change the server policy about how the staff handles issues, you can at least be more transparent on your own and I believe that would help the players.
 

Another thing is an easily accessible warning-ban sheet for players. It would be better if we could get to see our warning sheets without asking an available mod. If I am not mistaken, every player has a sheet so why not share them so we can check and contact mods when we don't understand or know when or why we got hit with a warning.

Not every player has a sheet - every player is in a mega doc where we program it to bring up a history log when we type your UUID. I always share that info with players if they ask but I can understand the push for the information to be available. 

7 minutes ago, monkeypoacher said:

 

Is it more typical than the GM refrain "we can't allow this kind of player conflict, but we could make a gated system to allow you to do it within 30 business days of a properly filed application?"

Of course I read your post. It was three paragraphs long. It also suggests creating an entirely new application for just about the most ridiculous thing imaginable - lighting something on fire in RP - which would require hours of time writing applications, reading, reviewing them, all for something that could be done in three emotes of RP 

Nah, it's not an "entirely new" anything. It's an already existent heist app.

I think we need some clarification here. I'm one mod. It's very hard to get things done as one mod who says "let's open the door to let players do absolutely anything they want with no restrictions" Rule changes go by moderation, then every single admin needs to agree to get it implemented.

I was handed a suggested rule change and modified it within reason to suit their demand and to make it something that might be accepted.

3 minutes ago, monkeypoacher said:

 

>staff solicit ideas from players

>player suggests very obvious idea, like removing a rule that makes no sense

>"no we can't do that, it would be too much work + unfair to PROs"

Did you read my whole response and see that I'm helping or are you just gonna go with the typical "Staff evil" mindset

8 minutes ago, ᴜɴᴡɪʟʟɪɴɢʟʏ said:

why. why is this a rule?

That one I understand and likely won't alter. Due to all the complications with builds, regions, PRO system etc etc etc it's hard to do large scale damage to things constantly (and trust me, it would be constant without any barrier in place), plus people put tons of work into our builds on server.... BUT.

What if we made a bit of a compromise to see if we can add it as a heist feature? People would have to make apps and it would still be controlled, but it would add more leeway to be able to do that with valid RP. That's something I'd be willing to bring up.

As for your other part, I remember seeing that post and it should be a pretty easy fix and something I'm happy to work on. Someone already brought it up in mod chat so I'll need to check and see if we ever took steps to put anything in place.

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Ok I do have one question.

Why?

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