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  1. "Yes, by the Lord God of course not, it wasn't me who killed those children; it was the man who threw them at me." spoke the Cardinal Rochefort, shaking his head as he read the newspaper a top a large wooden keg, some poor fellow stored beneath and causing a terrible racket, so rude to interrupt his serene disposition.

     

    "Our goodly military can surely do better in future."

  2. 2 hours ago, Laeonathan said:

     

    Yes I did vote no. Why? Here you go - note: this is MY opinion. Not the one of the entirety of the world or story team.

     

    You can be mad at me all you want. The fact I thought Vasoyevi and Dobrov are the same already tells a lot, doesn't it? This server needs variety, not another generic human group that could also be called Haense or Oren, Norland or Lucienburg. All of these fill the niche of "Human roleplay based on medieval society X". Haense (and Dobrov?) especially are based on eastern societies. Why not join them/stay with them? Yes, you wrote a wonderful culture. Many others did too. The last thing we want was the mess of Arcas, where we had 169 (!) entitities including settlements, vassals and nations. The server will already struggle with the end of corona and it's IMO way to massive map, spreading it out even further will not help only to appease a few. More settlements will also threaten the existing settlements. The less we have, the better the others do. 

     

    I know it's sad to not be able to get what you want. I can understand you, but we can't only look at individual people but also the server as a whole. No one forces you to abandon your culture. You can still roleplay it! May it be under a nation, or maybe as a nomadic lair which would be actually unique! If I remember correctly, that was the origin of the Vasoyevi?

     

     

    With all do respect you can't push somebody under the rug by generalizing the standards that the team itself has set: 'many other people have passion and follow our rules for settlements so thus you shouldn't have anything.' That kind of thing is blatantly subjective when in this case when that kind of passion is put into a project it should be anything but. People should be rewarded for hard work and as kindly as I can put it a comparison to Dobrov is something that reveals how out of touch staff can be with players. I don't particularly think people should even jump to comparing one settlement to another because at the end of the day that's a toxic affair.

     

    In reality the comparison isn't even fair because at the end of the day one group has dedicated time to workshopping an entire state build style, one has not, one has written an entire two-thousand and five hundred word cultural document, the other has not, ones has to abide by and follow the rules of settlement and rp out their reason for being there, the other was given land because one man wanted a fief not because of an entire player base.

     

    The difference is night and day here man and you can't expect these players to be satisfied when they're made to jump through hoops, they do so to the best of their ability, and then it still isn't good enough.

     

    I'm also just very disappointed by the reaction members of the team have had in conjunction with this post. This is an expression of players who have become frustrated that their work which was enough was so categorically denied. It reveals a flaw in the process and a lack of objective oversight, there is a real point here; and yet the response is to double down and disregard that feedback openly.

     

  3. The merit of this project speaks for itself, the build is one of the more solid I've seen potentially on this map, the players who've begun to advocate for it newer to the server and brimming with optimism so to see them crushed and given such an arbitrary response is just extremely disappointing particularly given the reality of being a vassal on this map where the situation is that in order to do anything your at the complete mercy of someone else with little options yourselves. That isn't even the most frustrating thing I imagine:

     

    I have never seen in all the apps I've read go through up to same amount of preparation; I've seen these guys regularly ping the background behind their move to a settlement and grow in small caravan culture by the campfires.

     

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    An important thing to remember and that can be actively seen is that they have been roleplaying in their own community but the fact that they have or have not is irrelevant to the question of the application anyway. It's just unreasonable to demand of people requirements that aren't specified in the application itself. Each requirements stipulated was filled out to the best seen, the post got like sixty upvotes which is extremely rare for any post on the forums these days, the interest is there. By every metric they seem to pass and yet it still isn't good enough.

     

    As players who've been around for a long time will know the probable result of appealing is commonly nothing, but Quantum, Burnsider, and the folk who're trying to do something special here with Vasoyevi don't deserve to have that same thing thrust upon them. They've put in the work they deserve a chance to succeed or fail by those preparations.

     

    They deserve better.

     

  4. 13 minutes ago, Yeagerist said:

    Please give my boy Quantumantics his Vasoyevi settlement so I can revive the Konchaks and bully them in roleplay, thanks. +1

     

    this please, allow me to larp in an independent and good build as a chad horse lord retainer of grand duke Sigismund. I just want to rp a cuman from kingdom come deliverance

     

  5. Spoiler

     

     

     

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    THE CONFERENCE OF 1816

     

    It is with the advent of these most recent elections that we as citizens of the Empire find ourselves in the most uncertain of times. It stands then to reason that unity must be sought in the chaos of the Commons at hand, that independent thought and policy be recognized and compiled into something fresh and new for the future. The Josephite Union is dead, and in it's place new members rise; a new union of respected peers must find common ground in the face of this dissolution. It is therefore the surest course forward to formally invite my newfound fellow and independent members of the Commons to table. We will meet in Redenford to discuss political leaning, to express on equal footing concerns for the nation at large.

    - Robert Bourdon, Right-Bank District

     

     

    INVITEES:

    • Cosimo Falcone, Northern District.
    • Valent de Rosius, Providence District.
    • Vladislav Vimmark-Roussard, Providence District.
    • Charles Galbraith, Providence District.
    • Anton d'Amato-Orlov, Providence District.
    • Rhys Briarwood, Western District

     

    Each is encouraged to bring with them their supporters of like mind, those vital to their individual campaigns with regard to the now past election season.

     

  6. SURNAME: Bourdon

    FIRST NAME: Robert

    ADDRESS OF RESIDENCE: 3 Ildon Ave.

    YEAR OF BIRTH: 1789

     

    Are you registered and eligible to vote in the Right-bank District? Yes

     

    Do you have any other title, peerage or military service that may conflict with becoming a Member of the House of Commons, as per the Edict of Reform (1763)? Yes, laicized for the duration of the term. 

     

    If yes, do you understand that you will be required to resign or abdicate from this position should you be elected to the House of Commons, and if this does not occur your seat shall be considered to be vacant?: Yes

     

    ((MC NAME)): Tiresiam

  7.  

     

    MEET 4 & 5

     

    MEMBERS ATTENDANT,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

         RUTLEDGE, Vivaca.

         KOMNENOS, Henrik.

     

    MEMBERS ABSENT,

         O'ROURKE, Patrick.

         CARRINGTON, Berryl.

         ILYID, Elasar.

         DE ROSIUS, Otis.

         RAVEXI, Vivyne.

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

         BOURDON, Robert.

     


     

    VOTE 1

    CONFIRMATION OF VIRGIL DENUREM TO THE HOME OFFICE

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES

     

    VOTE 2

    JEOPARDY AMENDMENT ACT

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES

     

    VOTE 3

    CONFIRMATION OF KEAGHEN ARMAS TO THE TRESURY

     

    AYE,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

         RUTLEDGE, Vivaca.

         KOMNENOS, Henrik.

         BOURDON, Robert.

     

    NAY,

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES

     

    VOTE 4

    CONFIRMATION OF RAPHAEL MATTHIEU TO THE CIRCUIT COURT

     

    AYE,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

         RUTLEDGE, Vivaca.

         KOMNENOS, Henrik.

         BOURDON, Robert.

     

    NAY,

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES

     


     

    FULL TRANSCRIPT

     

    Spoiler

    W.I.P

     

     

  8. MEET 3

     

    MEMBERS ATTENDANT,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         BOURDON, Robert.

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

         DE ROSIUS, Otis.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         GRAY, Farooq.

         ILYID, Elasar.

         RAVEXI, Vivyne.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

     

    MEMBERS ABSENT,

         O'ROURKE, Patrick.

         CARRINGTON, Berryl.

         RUTLEDGE, Vivaca.

     


     

    VOTE 1

    CONFIRMATION OF OWYN O'ROURKE TO THE CIRCUIT COURT

     

    AYE,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         BOURDON, Robert.

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

         DE ROSIUS, Otis.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         GRAY, Farooq.

         ILYID, Elasar.

         RAVEXI, Vivyne.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

     

    NAY,

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES

     

    VOTE 2

    CONFIRMATION OF JOSEPH LEOPOLD TO THE CIRCUIT COURT

     

    AYE,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         BOURDON, Robert.

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

         DE ROSIUS, Otis.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         GRAY, Farooq.

         ILYID, Elasar.

         RAVEXI, Vivyne.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

     

    NAY,

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES

     

    VOTE 3

    THE GRAY AMENDMENTS

     

    "The courts, often brought to a standstill due to arcane laws, require procedural changes to ensure efficiency."

     

    AYE,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         BOURDON, Robert.

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

         DE ROSIUS, Otis.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         GRAY, Farooq.

         ILYID, Elasar.

         RAVEXI, Vivyne.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

     

    NAY,

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES

     

    VOTE 4

    TRANSPARENT LAW ACT

     

    "In the past, it has taken up to 50 years for the ORC to be updated. As to ensure the ORC remains updated, this law mandates it be updated after each Diet." 

     

    AYE,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         BOURDON, Robert.

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

         DE ROSIUS, Otis.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         GRAY, Farooq.

         ILYID, Elasar.

         RAVEXI, Vivyne.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

     

    NAY,

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES

     

    VOTE 5

    CONFIRMATION OF FAROOQ GREY TO THE SUPREME COURT

     

    AYE,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         BOURDON, Robert.

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

         DE ROSIUS, Otis.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         GRAY, Farooq.

         ILYID, Elasar.

         RAVEXI, Vivyne.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

     

    NAY,

     

    ABSTAIN,

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES

     


     

    FULL TRANSCRIPT

     

    Spoiler

     

    Robert Bourdon: “The House can formally proceed, Rep. Armas you have the floor.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The Representative Ilyid has for himself a warning, a second will result is his ejection from the proceedings.”

    Elasar Ilyid: “What am I warned for, sir?”

    Robert Bourdon: “The honourable Rep. Armas, if you please.”

    Keaghen Armas: “First, we will be confirming the Owyn O'Rourke.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Justice Committee had a hearing with them, any recomendations?”

    Robert Bourdon: “A moment, for I must again address the Representative Ilyid.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da, Mister President.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “After vy.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Sir, this body relies upon the respect of it's chair, in order for us to prodeed in good time it must be so.”

    Elasar Ilyid: “Who did I disrespect, sir?”

    Robert Bourdon: “You are recently appointed and for that I will give you leave this once. But the chair, this Presidency must have it's position maintained.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Ruthern, you were to speak I believe. I give you leave to do so.”

    Robert Bourdon: “On the findings of the Justice Committee.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Spasiba, Mister President. After our most recent hearing with both candidates, the Justice Committee does find both members in good standing to pursue such an office. Especially given, the er- lack of Circuit Justices at the moment, so to say, the Chairman does recommend their confirmation to the House of Commons. This is what was noted during the hearing, I would advise the Honorable Representatives to take a look at the hearing's transcript.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I motion we vote on the confirmation of Owyn O'Rourke.”

    Cosimo Antony: “I would second the motion to vote.”

    Otis de Rosius: “I second the motion.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Then we will proceed to a cote on the confirmation of Owyn O'Rourke to the Circuit Court.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Armas?”

    Keaghen Armas: “Armas votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Bourdon votes aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Falcone?”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep de Rosius?”

    Otis de Rosius: “Rosius votes aye.”

    Cosimo Antony: “Falcone votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Galbraith?”

    Charles Galbraith: “Galbraith votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Gray.”

    Farooq Gray: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Ilyid?”

    Elasar Ilyid: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ravexi?”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Var Ruthern?”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da.”

    Robert Bourdon: “We have a majority, so we may proceed then to the second candidate?”

    Keaghen Armas: “Ay, let us go to the confirmation of Joseph Leopold.”

    Keaghen Armas: “To the Circuit Court.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I motion we go straight to a vote.”

    Otis de Rosius: “I second the motion.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I third.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Onto the vote then.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Armas?”

    Keaghen Armas: “Armas votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Bourdon votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Falcone?”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep de Rosius?”

    Otis de Rosius: “Rosius votes aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Galbraith?”

    Charles Galbraith: “Galbraith votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Gray.”

    Farooq Gray: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ilyid.”

    Elasar Ilyid: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ravexi.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “And Ruthern.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Very good, a majority has been reached and so they too are formally confirmed to their office.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Next on the agenda will be the Gray Amendments.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Mister Gray, please present.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Mister Gray, you have the floor.”

    Farooq Gray: “Very good.”

    Farooq Gray: “Our Justice system is in quite a poor state, a supreme court that is far too large and requirements that clog up the court. This amendment will fix these issues and ensure we have efficent and just courts once more.”

    Farooq Gray: “I believe you all have copies, I yield for comments or questions.”

    Robert Bourdon: “I'm sure Rep. Galbraith will be very poised to begin.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Well, actually, I wouldn't mind in speaking after Representative var Ruthern, Mister President.”

    Robert Bourdon: “These are my thoughts as well, Rep Ruthern if you please.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Ruthern has the floor.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Mister President, I would just simply like to echo my bipartisan sentiments across the aisle. Our judiciary certainly mandates reworking, and this bill goes to great strides to fix some legal issues we've seen in the past, and may see in the future. Though, I'm not sure if this has been written down, but regarding the Books of Evidence, I believe it's best if we include a clause for it to be exchanged at least one saint day before the trial, if they are niet in custody.”

    Robert Bourdon: “If that is all then, Rep. Ruthern?”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da, that is all.”

    Farooq Gray: “Rep. Var Ruthern, I would ask why one day would be needed rather than one hour?”

    Robert Bourdon: “Yes, rather inconvenient that.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Mister President, I would like to move to add a paragraph to state that if the Defendant is in custody, there is no time-requirement to exchange the books of evidence, as long as it is done prior to the trial.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Ah, well I presume the one hour mandate was written for the sake of expediency of someone that is already in custody by members of the law enforcement. I was niet sure if the same metric applied to cases if they are niet.”

    Robert Bourdon: “It's certainly a wise policy, I'd much prefer a man make his case seconds before his death. When it is most convenient for me.”

    Farooq Gray: “Expediency for all trials, Rep. Var Ruthern. I believe one hour would be enough time to go over the book and prepare for it. A full day would just clog up the courts.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “A fair point. The motion is withdrawn, then.”

    Farooq Gray: “It is my opinion that one hour for all cases is a good compromise between the request of Rep. Galbraith and Rep. Var Ruthern.”

    Robert Bourdon: “A bit of sarcasm, dear Ruthern.”

    Elasar Ilyid: “If I may, one hour whilst the defendant is in custody seems unnecessary and is in fact, far more likely to result in all parties twiddling their thumbs whilst fulfilling unnecessary requirements.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I agree with the Representative Illyid.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Then Representative Ilyid has for this moment the floor, your suggestion as amendment stands?”

    Robert Bourdon: “An hour, a day, none at all?”

    Elasar Ilyid: “Yes. I suggest that if we are to base this requirement in time, it be 15 Saint's minutes.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I second the motion, Mr President.”

    Robert Bourdon: “All those then, in favour of Rep. Ilyid's proposed amendment? Fifteen minutes before.”

    Keaghen Armas: “This is a law to vote Aye on. Vinzent had assisted in its drafting.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “I must stress to this House, Mister President, that we must give timeful opportunity for the Prosecution and Defense to address each other's evidence and formulate arguments to it. It is my opinion that 15 saint minutes may not be enough.”

    Farooq Gray: “Perhaps half an hour in compromise?”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da. I see that as fit.”

    Farooq Gray: “Rep. Ilyid?”

    Charles Galbraith: “Ah, that sounds better, indeed.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Thirty then, perhaps I should chair an auction.”

    Elasar Ilyid: “Fifteen saint's minutes of my life wasted by the Representitive Ruthern is far more adequate.”

    Elasar Ilyid: “But thirty will do.”

    Farooq Gray: “Very good.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Thirty then!”

    Robert Bourdon: “Cheeky, good man.”

    Robert Bourdon: “All those in favour of thirty?”

    Charles Galbraith: “Aye.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Aye.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da.”

    Cosimo Antony: “Thirty is a compromise. Aye.”

    Farooq Gray: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Have we our sixth?”

    Otis de Rosius: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Very good.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Are there any other concerns voiced by this House?”

    Keaghen Armas: “I motion we vote.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I second.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Withdraw, let Cosimo speak.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Falcone has the floor.”

    Cosimo Antony: “My only piece to speak is regarding Section Four, IV.IV - ''The Supreme Court is delegated the power to overturn any verdict from lesser courts.'' I believe there should be stipulation- clauses that might avoid any potential cases of nepotisms or abuse of power. Perhaps require reason for overturn, or a secondary trial on behalf of the Supreme Court to present the reasoning for the overturn.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Galbraith, you have leave to speak.”

    Robert Bourdon: “This is the function of appeal correct?”

    Charles Galbraith: “Thank you, Mister President.”

    Cosimo Antony: “Si, Mr. President.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I would like to mention that the Legal Procedure Act already states the requirements to file an Appeal to the Supreme Court and that those are on the grounds of law,, mistrial or new facts; and that this bill does not alter any of the current regulation.”

    Charles Galbraith: “This bill only modifies some aspects of the Legal Procedure Act, but keeps all its content not explicitly modified in the bill.”

    Charles Galbraith: “That is all, Mr President”

    Cosimo Antony: “I merely motion for a small amendment - A reason for their overturning should be provided and valid. It cannot simply be because a Supreme Court Justice did not like the verdict.”

    Farooq Gray: “Aye, this bill does not change that aspect of the Supreme Court, which has for a century not been abused.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Right Honourable Representative Antony, as I have just explained, the requirements for appeal are already established in the Legal Procedure Act.”

    Charles Galbraith: “This bill does not change or replace any of those already requirements in effect.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Order, order if you will.”

    Farooq Gray: “The Supreme Court has always served as the court of last resort, and it is well established in law that their reasoning must be legal, and not based on their whims and wishes.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Hear, hear.”

    Robert Bourdon: “It wouldn't be an issue then, for this reality of the court to be clarified within the contents of the standing proposal?”

    Farooq Gray: “It would be unnecessary fluff, Rep. Falcone.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I simply believe that it is already clarified, Mister President.”

    Cosimo Antony: “Very well, then. I suppose the open-endedness of this particular article could defer to the Severence Clause in a very worst. I retract my motion for an amendment. We should proceed with the vote.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Very good.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Is the motion seconded?”

    Charles Galbraith: “Yes.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I second the motion.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Good then we will proceed.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Armas.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Armas votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Bourdon votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Falcone?”

    Cosimo Antony: “Falcone votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “De Rosius?”

    Otis de Rosius: “Rosius votes aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Galbraith.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Galbraith votes Aye!”

    Robert Bourdon: “Gray.”

    Farooq Gray: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ilyid.”

    Elasar Ilyid: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ravexi.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ruthern.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Nine in favour, none opposed.”

    Charles Galbraith: “God save the Emperor!”

    Keaghen Armas: “Nice.”

    Robert Bourdon: “We may proceed to the next document.”

    Otis de Rosius: “Congratulations.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Ay, next I shall present the Trasparent Law Act.”

    Keaghen Armas: “It took almost fiftey years for the ORC to be updated.”

    Keaghen Armas: “It's ridiculous.”

    Keaghen Armas: “This should fix that.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “Motion to vote, Mister President.”

    Cosimo Antony: “I second.”

    Otis de Rosius: “I third the motion.”

    Robert Bourdon: “This house will hear Rep. Galbraith.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Thank you, Mister President, I would simply like to clarify that the responsibilities mentioned in this bill are already the current duties of the Department of Civil Affairs.”

    Charles Galbraith: “In addition, I would like to state that the correct denomination of the Empire's legal code is Orenian Revised Code and not Oren Revised Code, and ask the House for a minor amendment on that word.”        

    Charles Galbraith: “That's all, Mister President”

    Keaghen Armas: “Ay that will be fixed.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “I motion to vote on the amendment.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I second.”

    Farooq Gray: “Do we need to vote on removing three letters?”

    Farooq Gray: “Or adding, my mistake.”

    Robert Bourdon: “We can dispense with it quickly, I expect.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Nay, let's just vote on the act.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “Anything to get that man to never bring it up again.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “I will give my vote to anything for that.”

    Robert Bourdon: “I do enjoy semantics.”

    Farooq Gray: “I am sure Mr. Armas can make the change and we can move on.”

    Robert Bourdon: “But if it pleases this House we may proceed to a vote.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I second the motion to vote on the bill, Mr President.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The motion has been seconded, we will carry down the list.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Armas.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Armas votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Bourdon votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Falcone?”

    Cosimo Antony: “Falcone votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “De Rosius?”

    Otis de Rosius: “Rosius votes aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Galbraith?”

    Charles Galbraith: “Galbraith votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Gray.”

    Farooq Gray: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ilyid.”

    Elasar Ilyid: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ravexi.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “Aye, Ravexi votes aye!”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ruthern.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The ayes have it, all nine, the motion passes.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “I motion to vote on the bill.”

    Farooq Gray: “We already did.”

    Charles Galbraith: “God save the Emperor.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I think that was the bill.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Indeed, to clarify.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “Charles speaks so much I do not know if he said bill or amendment.”

    Otis de Rosius: “Congratulations.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Three words are a very critical affair I'll have you know.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Lastly we shall see the confirmation of Farooq Gray for the Supreme Court.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Mister Gray, do ye have any remarks?”

    Farooq Gray: “I would just say it would be an honor to sit on the court once more, and spend the last of my days furthering Orenian jurisprudence.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da, considering Mr. Gray is a Member of the House and is already present at the sitting, the Justice committee will allow this hearing and vote to defer to this sitting.”

    Robert Bourdon: “That was to be my question to you Rep. Ruthern.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Oh, well.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The Justice Committee waves it's right to a hearing?”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “We can have him answer any pertinent questions at this sitting.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Very good.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Armas, you have the floor.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Rep. Gray, you had ran for public office, lost, was given a second chance to sit in this house, and now ye wish to move on. What respect do ye have for this House? Or do you just see it as a platform to further elevate your social standings?”

    Robert Bourdon: “The House Leader will remember his decorum. This House was in such good spirits mere moments ago.”

    Farooq Gray: “I ran on the platform of pushing judicial reform, which I've done. I go where my empire needs me, Mr. Armas. Now I am needed on the court, due to an unexpected vacancy. I did not run for this house to seek social standing-.”

    Farooq Gray: “I spent three decades in the House prior to this, I ran to fix the problems in the legal system.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Mister President, If I may.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Galbraith, you've your piece.”

    Charles Galbraith: “My dear colleagues….”

    Charles Galbraith: “I would simply like to clarify that from what I know, It's always been the intention of the Rt. Hon. Representative Gray to stay in this chamber representing his constituency. However, a suddeny vacancy arose within the Supreme Court and I was tasked by-.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Relevency Galbraith, ask the man a question.”

    Charles Galbraith: “-The Archchancellor to find a new candidate to cover it. After several interviews, I decided to recommend his nomination to the Crown, given his high experience in legal matters, his current rank as Attorney-General of the MoJ, and his former position--.”

    Charles Galbraith: “-As Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.”

    Cosimo Antony: “Quite a wordy question.”

    Charles Galbraith: “And obviously he shall resign as Attorney-General if this chamber confirms him.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Order, if you please.”

    Cosimo Antony: “Apologies, Mr. President.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Gray has defended his position eloquently.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Now, Rep. Ruthern I believe.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Ruthern has the floor.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “I'd have two questions for the candidate.”

    Farooq Gray: “I shall have two answers then.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Mr. Gray has had a long career in judicial relevance, nie doubt, but, he is a man who has had office in the Supreme Court, has stepped down to the House of Commons, a body itself composed of many factions - and is to be confirmed back to the Supreme Court. Mister President, can Mr. Gray affirm to this house that upon going back to this office he will not hold any bias in jurisprudence - after transitioning from the Diet to the Supreme Court now twice?”

    Robert Bourdon: “Clarification, the gentleman asks if you can affirm to the House your effort to remain unbiased in your judicial procedure.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Have I that right, Rep Ruthern?”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Gray, then we will proceed with the second question.”

    Farooq Gray: “I can, Rep. Var Ruthern. I spent decades as an Everardine, yet none of my decisions were biased in favor of that party or any other. My loyalty is to the Emperor and his laws, no one or nothing else.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Get out of here fetish boy.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “In my studies of Mr. Gray's past rulings, I came across somewhat of an interesting ruling, in the ruling on the Crown v. Napier in regards to the latter's appeal.”

    Farooq Gray: “Aye, I remember that case well.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “In this ruling. Mr. Gray seemed to equate the mandate in the Double Jeopardy act of re-trial, to higher appeal to the Supreme Court, even when the case had niet reached a final decision in the Supreme Court to hypothetically constitute a re-trial. Can Mr. Gray shed any light on this ruling?”

    Farooq Gray: “Aye, I can. Now I do not have the ruling on hand, which I myself penned, but I shall go off memory.”

    Elasar Ilyid: “If I might note for the record, the decision was unanimous.”

    Farooq Gray: “The wording of the bill plainly stated that a person may only be tried once for a crime. In this case, Mr. Napier was already tried and convicted by the time the rulling reached our court.”

    Farooq Gray: “In order to remand, that would constitute a second trial. By plain reading of the bill, that was impermissible.”

    Farooq Gray: “And because his first conviction had glaring procedual errors, we had no choice but to release Mr. Napier.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “That will be all, Mr. President. I motion to a vote.”

    Otis de Rosius: “I second the motion.”

    Robert Bourdon: “We will then proceed to a vote.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Armas.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Armas votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Bourdon votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Falcone?”

    Cosimo Antony: “Falcone seeks to Abstain.”

    Robert Bourdon: “De Rosius.”

    Otis de Rosius: “Rosius votes aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Galbraith.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Galbraith votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Gray.”

    Farooq Gray: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ilyid.”

    Elasar Ilyid: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ruthern.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da.”

    Robert Bourdon: “That is a majority I believe, the vote carries.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Now get outta here.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Motion to adjourn.”

    Otis de Rosius: “I motion to end this meeting.”

    Farooq Gray: “It has been a pleasure serving with you all.”

    Robert Bourdon: “No motion is needed.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Get out.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Congratulations, Justice Gray.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The Chair formally ends this third session of the House.”

     

     

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    Robert Bourdon signed the Lorraine, and began to bop to Spyro toons as the Lady Reza began to burn. No amount of melting flesh nor screaming hairy Northman able to ruin his nostalgia as he hummed those tunes of the purple dragon. 

  10. MEET 2.

    MEMBERS ATTENDANT,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         BOURDON, Robert.

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         GRAY, Farooq.

         RAVEXI, Vivyne.

         RUTLEDGE, Vivaca.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

     

    MEMBERS ABSENT,

         DE ROSIUS, Otis.

         HELVETS, Margaret.

         O'ROURKE, Patrick.

     

    MEMBERS ADDED,

         CARRINGTON, Beryl.

     


     

    VOTE 1.

    NAPIER DIGNITY ACT

     

    This bill seeks to remove intervention by the state on the offspring between those of descendant race.

     

    AYE,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

         RUTLEDGE, Vivaca.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         DE ROSIUS, Otis.

     

    NAY,

         BOURDON, Robert.

         RAVEXI, Vivyne.

     

    ABSTAIN,

         GRAY, Farooq.

         O'ROURKE, Patrick.

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES 

     

    VOTE 2.

    PERSONHOOD PATHWAY ACT

     

    This act, without disrupting the status-quo of intelligent non-persons, lends the opportunity for a non-person seeking personhood to achieve such.

     

    AYE,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         BOURDON, Robert.

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         RAVEXI, Vivyne.

         RUTLEDGE, Vivaca.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

         O'ROURKE, Patrick.

         DE ROSIUS, Otis.


    NAY,

     

    ABSTAIN,

         GRAY, Farooq.

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES

     

    VOTE 3.

    ARMAS BOUNTY ACT

     

    "This Act seeks to compensate those soldiers and citizens who fulfill their call of duty in wartime or conflict."

     

    AYE,

         ARMAS, Keaghen.

         GRAY, Farooq.

         RUTLEDGE, Vivaca.

         RAVEXI, Vivyne.

         O'ROURKE, Patrick.

         DE ROSIUS, Otis.


    NAY,

         BOURDON, Robert.

         D'AMATO-FALCONE, Cosimo.

         HELVETS, Margaret.

         

    ABSTAIN,

         GALBRAITH, Charles.

         VAR RUTHERN, Vinzant.

     

    SIMPLE MAJORITY; MOTION CARRIES

     


     

    FULL TRANSCRIPT

     

    Spoiler

    Robert Bourdon: “With Rep Galbraith's arrival we may begin. I call this meeting of the House into order.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The bill tabled upon our previous sitting by the resigned member has been sealed thus, so we will dispense with it first and continue with the motions of the day.”

    Robert Bourdon: “I now call on the Honourable Leader of the House to set the agenda.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Thank ye Mister President. It's good to be back in regular buisness.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Firstly, I'd like to take a moment of Rememberance of what happened here just a few years ago. This house had burnt, and in it we lost a great statesman. This is building of order, not violence, and we should 
    all pray such attacks never happen again.”

    Keaghen Armas: “And I'd like to recognize the Virgil DeNurem for his renovation here. Quite the reconsturction.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Now, our first order of buisness..”

    Keaghen Armas: “Shall be the Napier Dignity Act. I shall give the floor to the co-sponsor, the Hon. Rutledge, to present this bill.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ms. Rutledge, you have the floor.”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “Thank you, mister president.”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “The Napier Dignity Act seeks to amend the Barclay Reform Act, and aims to remove discrimination towards Half-Orcs in the Holy Orenian Empire. I'm glad to co-sponsor this bill which, if passed, would tackle one of the hurdles of social injustice in Oren.”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “You should all have a copy of the bill, I yield my time.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Then I hereby open the floor to questions, challenges, debate.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I shall motion for a vote.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I witdraw that motion!”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Galbraith!”

    Charles Galbraith: “Thank you, Mister President.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Motion withdrawn Rep Galbraith has the floor.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Given the fact that I'm personally also a supporter of the Halfling rights, I would like to move to amend Section II of the Bill in order to add that Halflings are also considered descendants of the humans.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “That is most unnecessary. Halflings are already considered humans, are they not?”

    Charles Galbraith: “Indeed, but, Adunians are being explicitly mentioned as descendant of humans in Section II, so I simply would like to clarify that the Halflings receive a similar treatment, as descendants of humans and dwarves.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Armas.”

    Keaghen Armas: “My fellow representative bring up a good point on the nature of 301.06H. As Adunians are of pure descendant blood, though mixed, they are already covered under 301.06F, as are halflings. Therefor, I see no reason for 301.06H to be written as law at all,  as it's only dublicating what is covered in 301.06F.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Halflings too, as descendant blood mixture.”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “I agree.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I agree too.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I then motion we remove Section II in it's entirety.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da, I agree.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I agree with the Majority Leader.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I second the motion.”

    Robert Bourdon: “A motion has been seconded, amendment and removal of section two of the current act.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Mr. Armas?”

    Keaghen Armas: “If there is no opposition to this ammendment, it shall be carried.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Is this the case, are all in favour?”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “Yes.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da.”

    Cosimo Antony: “Aye.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Ay, I motion to vote.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “I second the motion.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Then we proceed to a vote upon the Napier Dignity Act.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Representative Armas.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Armas votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Bourdon votes Nay.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Representative d'amato-falcone?”

    Cosimo Antony: “Falcone votes a reluctant Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Representative Galbraith.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Galbraith votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Representative Gray.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Aye or nay, sir.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “He means abstain.”

    Robert Bourdon: “And you, Representative Ravexi.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “I vote nay.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Representative Rutledge?”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “Aye!”

    Robert Bourdon: “Representative Ruthern.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Five for, two against, with one abstention.”

    Robert Bourdon: “We move now to the Personhood Pathway Act.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Representative Armas.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Ay, thank ye mister president.”

    Keaghen Armas: “As to be equally controversial, I am tabling the Personhood Pathway Bill.”

    Keaghen Armas: “This bill seeks to offer a pathway to personhood to those who qualify as Intelligant non-persons under the Barclay Reform Act.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Then we move to the final piece of legislation for the day, the Armas Bounty Act.”

    Keaghen Armas: “It is true that the nature of those non-persons is certainly uncivilised, there has been cases over the years that has shown those of Non-Person blood to become Civilised.”

    Keaghen Armas: “A case perhaps, is the Sir Phrogerous, a wonk who served this Empire faithfully, adapting to our Imperial customs.”

    Keaghen Armas: “This bill would not disrupt the status-quo of non-persons, rather it provides a strict criteria and mentorship that would allow the court to grant personhood to individuals.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Individuals who adopt of customs, faith, and civilised mindset. As seen through Bullfrog, you never know what taelnt exists in the Empire until you enable it.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Thank ye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The floor is opened to debate, Rep Rutledge.”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “Thank you, mister president.”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “I'm a passionate campaigner for civil equality, and I am fiercely opposed to all forms of discrimination towards community groups in Oren. Although I would like to see Personhood rights automatically granted to residents-.”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “-At birth, I will vote aye on this bill. This is a huge leap forward for our country, and I hope other members of the House join me in voting aye for this historic bill.”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “I yield my time.”

    Robert Bourdon: “You may, Rep Falcone, a brief statement and then onto Rep Galbraith and the turn of order.”

    Cosimo Antony: “I stand firm to preserve the right's of men- under no circumstance do I believe ologs are capable or deserving of such.”

    Cosimo Antony: “I yield my time.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Olog and intelligence seem indeed to be contrary.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Point of Order.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Galbraith, on to you.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Acknowledged.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Thank you, Mister President, If I may.”

    Keaghen Armas: “In a debate, I believe the presenter get's a reply.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Very well, Reo Rutledge would you care to respond?”

    Keaghen Armas: “I wish to reply to the Representative's -.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I am the presenter.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Ah, pardon.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Continue then, honourable leader of the hosue.”

    Keaghen Armas: “It's okay. While I understand such, and I also agree there is no place for an Olog in our most Holy Empire, -.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I believe that the criteria required, which is very strict -.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Mister President, Point of Personal Privilege.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I agree that the-.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Well, let's allow the Majority Leader to finish first.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Excuse me for the interruption.”

    Robert Bourdon: “It is the House Leader's right to respond, then we can move on. /Rep Armas/.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I agree with the Hon. Rep. That there is no place for Ologs in our most Holy Empire. I believe that the criteria provided would deter such, as an Olog does not have the brain to meet such criteria, register with a court, or even be mentored.  And if one does, I would certainly eat my own jacket for it is something I cannae see. I ask this house to look at the criteria requred for personhood closely, as it is very, very strict.”   

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Galbraith, and then Rep Gray.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Thank you, Mister President. First of all, ignore the Point of Personal Privilege that I stated one saint minute ago -it was merely to state the fact that I have been having my hand raised for 10 saints minutes and I was supposed to be able to speak before the Leader of the House replied to that question.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Now, moving on… I would like to give my opinion regarding this bill….”

    Charles Galbraith: “My dear colleagues, I completely agree with the Leader of the House, Ologs are monstrosities, they should not deserve personhood.”

    Charles Galbraith: “For that, I move to remove any mention of personhood for Ologs in this bill, given that the current regulation implies that they would have to go to court to get personhood, but that makes no sense.”      

    Keaghen Armas: “Ay, so 301.06G could be ammended to exclude Ologs.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Acknowledged, is the gentlemen seconded?”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Seconded.”

    Robert Bourdon: “We shall hear Rep Gray, then move to vote on this amendment.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Gray, you have the floor.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “For clarification, does the Majority Leader accept this revision?”

    Keaghen Armas: “Ay, I would.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Representative Grey has the floor, desist if you would.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Sleepy Gray has had his snooze heard, we move to a vote on the amendment.”

    Robert Bourdon: “As it stands, the motion is to clarify and exclude particularly the ascent of Ologs to personhood.”

    Robert Bourdon: “When the vote is had we will return to Rep Gray.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Armas?”

    Keaghen Armas: “ Ologs are barred from seeking a Certificate of Personhood.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Aye, I expect?”

    Keaghen Armas: “I shall see this change if there is no opposition.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Falcone?”

    Cosimo Antony: “I am in favor of this change, aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Galbraith.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Gray.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Ravexi.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “Nay.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The ayes have it.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Farooq Gray, you have another opportunity to speak.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Da_Emperors.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The Honourable Leader of the Opposition has the floor.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Representative Gray, the Sir Bullfog Phrogerous was of course knighted, given the highest honour of the land for his service to the Empire.”

    Keaghen Armas: “He wore a fine coat, he was a diligent clerk, a canonist, and diligently served the Empress. Yet- he did not have rights in court nor could he vote.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Do you not see an individual of his prestige to be allowed representation?”

    Keaghen Armas: “Ay, but those do not qualify for Personhood then.”

    Keaghen Armas: “The criteria is very clear.”

    Keaghen Armas: “This bill gives rights to the exceptions, those who become civilised.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Very good gentlemen, Rep. Ruthern?”

    Keaghen Armas: “Why would a non-person of our Empire want to adapt to our ways if there is no benefit to?”

    Keaghen Armas: “Then vote aye - and let them become members of the empire if they deserve it!”

    Robert Bourdon: “Lord's mercy, Rep. Var Ruthern has the floor.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “As the Leader of the House has previously mentioned, we have seen, even with our own eyes, cases where Intelligent Non-persons are able to become civilized members of society. Yet, I muss degress with Representatives Gray's remarks, as they are still held back by law, should they want to persevere. Although such may be loosely implemented, it is codified in law that they niet be able to hold government offices, and are niet 
    able to own property. These limitations exist.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “As an Empire, we must enable potential, but niet disable it. Imagine how many records could have been lost or mismanaged if some other poor archivist were to manage them!”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “As there is niet merit in giving personhood to intelligent non-persons as a while, there is merit in recognizing single esteemed individuals who are able to assimilate properly.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “And there is precedent for this, for one to be knighted - a prestige only reserved for the highest of man and person.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Spasiba.”

    Robert Bourdon: “With the tidings these days, property itself seems an asset easily offered, revoked too really.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Falcone.”

    Cosimo Antony: “I'll keep it short as to allow the Honorable Rutledge her time.”

    Cosimo Antony: “I second the Honorable Farooq's amendment. That this bill's passing should include a contingency that allows said citizenship to be revoked, should those non-persons relapse into those birth-given instincts. I believe what the Honorable Var Ruthern says holds truth: Foster development, as opposed to hindering. Though, we need to remain pragmatic- it will not be often these cases arrive, so a watchful, scrutinous eye must be kept on those who should benefit.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Then in the interest too of time, all in favour of the proposed amendment say aye.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da.”

    Robert Bourdon: “For I second the Rep. Falcone's amendment.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Ay, I agree, should the Citizen be found guilty of a felony, or be found by the court to have regressed to savagery, that the certification be recoked.”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Aye.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Aye.”

    Cosimo Antony: “Aye. I yield my time to the Honorable Rutledge, if the President should allow.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The motion stands, Rep. Rutledge you now have the floor.”

    Vivaca Rutledge: “Mister president and members of this house, I have to go, if that is fine with you. I will vote aye on the Personhood bill.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Taken into account, we move then to a vote on the bill itself.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Does this look good to everyone?”

    Robert Bourdon: “Agreeable, now to the vote. Then unto to the Armas Bounty Act.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Armas, your vote?”

    Keaghen Armas: “Armas votes Aye on the Personhood Pathway Bill.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Bourdon votes aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Falcone?”

    Cosimo Antony: “Falcone votes aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Galbraith?”

    Charles Galbraith: “Galbraith votes Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Gray?”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Ravexi?”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “I vote aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Var Ruthern?”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Da.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The ayes have it.”

    Keaghen Armas: “This is a history made.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Finally, the Armas Bounty Bill”

    Robert Bourdon: “By majority the bill is passed, Rep. Armas presenting the last business of the day.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Point of Order, Mister President.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Recognised.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Mister President, before moving on the next point of the order of business, I would simply desire to ask the Chair to state whether the actual names of the positions held by Representative Armas and Farooq Gray are Majority Leader and Minority Leader or not.”

    Charles Galbraith: “Mister President, is the correct denomination Majority Leader and Minority Leader, or Leader of the House and Leader of the Opposition?”

    Robert Bourdon: “Pardon?”

    Keaghen Armas: “I.. I dunnae know actually.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I will take this up with the Archivists for next session.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I am simply asking the Chair to clarify the names of those titles, that's all.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Perhaps you should sit in a corner and have a think on it.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “The latter, presumably.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Armas, if you please. The floor is yours to present the bill.”

    Keaghen Armas: “The citizenry of our most Holy Empire have proved time and time again to be most patriotic in all of Almaris. Soldier or not, many take up arms to defend His Imperial Majesty and the homeland without calling. 
    To defend the homeland is the most valient  duty performed, and many fulfill it unnoticed.”

    Keaghen Armas: “As we see now as we fight the tratiorous Sedanites, it is not just the paid soldier who takes up arms.”

    Keaghen Armas: “This bill seeks to promote and reward courage, skill, and the martial spirit of our citizens by compensating them for their defense of our most Holy Empire.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Should an enemy of the state - and I clarify, a declared enemy, nae a common thief - be slain, proof may be taken to the Treasury to be recorded and compensated.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Thank ye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “There is little to debate on the worth of our good Imperial citizenry, money for death though. That is a moral issue. Or perhaps maybe the good men of the Empire should be paid more than up to a measly fifteen mina for uncountable kills.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Falcone.”

    Cosimo Antony: “While I am aware we are dealing with an active insurrection and undoubtedly support the Empire through such, I still beg our God's mercies upon the souls of those traitors. The same may not always be said for 
    those who preserve our Empire's defenses. Legislature like this would only encourages the already-present savage tendencies of the ISA- of our cultures.”

    Cosimo Antony: “Hands of our enemies? Why not their heads? For the pikes to line the walls. Though I rest my case, I only merely want to make mention of the point.”

    Charles Galbraith: “I move to replace the word hands for heads in the bill.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Would you prefer, 'fleshy objects mounted upon the neck?'.”

    Cosimo Antony: “I do not second that, I was being facetious.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Do any have serious words, to give a voice in this house?”

    Cosimo Antony: “I merely ask my comrades to contemplate the ramifications of providing such incentives.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Paying coin for farmers to gut their neighbors, possibly.”

    Keaghen Armas: “War is not a pretty thing. Those who fight to defend us, those who are forced to put steel in man for our safety, deserve to be compensated.”

    Keaghen Armas: “There is no joy, solace, or good in war. We do not ask for war.”

    Keaghen Armas: “It comes to our door.”

    Cosimo Antony: “Does the ISA not pay those who've given their arms already?”

    Keaghen Armas: “Ay, well the act seeks a hand. That can change. But if ye killed Mir. Galbraith ye would not be killing an Enemy of the State. Ye would be charged with murder.”

    Keaghen Armas: “I may stand misunderstood here that a reward for martial excellence deserves recognition.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Because the leader of house is very intimately aware of his excellency's very smooth and dainty fingers I am sure.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Well, what other piece of identification would ye propose?”

    Cosimo Antony: “And when we've a collection of heads? What do we do with them, then?”

    Cosimo Antony: “Allow them to rot away in the Bastille's closet?”

    Charles Galbraith: “I agree with Mister Gray's proposal.”

    Keaghen Armas: “That would be up to the Treasury Office, I s'pose.”

    Cosimo Antony: “A sight for the children.”

    Robert Bourdon: “To a vote-.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Heads.. It shall be.”

    Robert Bourdon: “We move to a vote, gentlemen. On the bill itself.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Armas.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Vote how ye feel comforatable here. This is not pretty.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Bourdon votes nay.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Falcone?”

    Cosimo Antony: “Falcone votes nay.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Galbraith?”

    Charles Galbraith: “Representative Galbraith votes Abstain.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Gray.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep Ravexi.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “Aye.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Rep. Var Ruthern.”

    Vinzant var Ruthern: “Abstain.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “Nay, I mean nay.”

    Vivyne Ravexi: “Apologizes.”

    Robert Bourdon: “Three for, two against.”

    Robert Bourdon: “With two abstentions.”

    Robert Bourdon: “The remaining votes will be cast by ballot by our absent members.”

    Keaghen Armas: “Good sitting lads.”

    Robert Bourdon: “With that I bring this meeting to a close, all are excused.”

     

     

  11. 4 hours ago, sergisala said:

    Wow I come back to read this post and I just see myself being called a rat. If anyone think that affects me then you clearly don't know me.

     

    Anyway,

     @Proddyand I are mates and my comment was supposed to be positive, because, as he knows, I'm down for helping him to come back to Oren whenever he wants. The fact that my comment didn't have a happy emoji at the end doesn't necessarily mean that It's not written in a positive tone.

     

    If you guys knew me well you would know that I like helping people to make sure that none feels excluded from our community and that we can all roleplay happily.

     

    Have a good day :)

     

     

     

     

  12. 1 hour ago, Excitedly said:

     

    Not the time or place. That being said, I've spoken to Basket a lot about wars, and a lot about Sedan and he's not once been opposed to any of the conflict and not once has been working against "Player Interests" as you put it. If you have complaints about GM verdicts made by members of his team you ought to report them. As for the rest, if people made rule-breaking comments or posts about the war, those have been shot down whether they come from Oren, Sedan, or Haense. 

    Basket is not an Orencentric player, nor was he a biased Administrator with regards to his conduct involving this conflict. On top of that, it's inappropriate to bring that up on a resignation post, Basket is leaving for a myriad of other reasons that are beyond your concern. It's just petty, asinine, and a waste of time to muddy this post with that type of criticism, especially when not long from now there will be a successor of his that you can speak to.

    For the love of God, Jack, I hold you to a high standard and I never expected to see you post this kind of vitriol. I am sad to be mistaken. 

     

     

  13. 1 hour ago, Anore said:


    You’re pulling **** out of your ass if you don’t think I didn’t want a war and fun experience for players to come out of this from the get go, or if you are under the Impression that I had any pushback on getting this going.

     

    Sorry but I don't lol, given how less than an hour before that verdict came out you shut down james2k's thread within two seconds of it being posted. If you wanna be hostile af that's fine too, its not like players need anymore proof after that or the other biased decisions you've made when it comes to safeguarding your own playerbase, like the metagaming of Haense's rally through leaks in GM chat and I could go on. Take the L and dip out pal.

  14. 3 hours ago, Anore said:

    I wanted to formally make this post announcing that I will be stepping down as Administrator of the Moderation Team. At this point in time I no longer feel like I can effectively hold this position and drive the server in a positive direction. Once my successor is chosen I will be handing over the reigns.

     

    It isn't a coincidence that a decision by the admin team as a whole had to be made in order to come to a fair verdict regarding the Sedan situation in Oren, took putting a gun to your head for players to come out on top. Regardless of that though there is also a very telling wisdom in being self-aware enough to realize that, to acknowledge that, and to willingly take a step back. For that you have my respect, observation of your track record aside.

     

    Moderation takes a heavy toll on people and it isn't easy to step away, so good luck in your retirement pal and I hope that with it you can learn to enjoy rp again without a Sword of Damocles hanging over your head.

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