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    Techlock and weaponry

    in Axios OOC Archive

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    7 minutes ago, overlord2305 said:

    Then thats their damn choice and they can deal with it themselves aswell. Ehat you're proposing is more or less equality of outcome, which not only makes putting in the time and effort to learn magic feel less rewarding, but it also means you'd rather make up some new shitty lore to get power instead of going through the same process as EVERYONE ELSE

    Unfortunately, as I explained before, some characters do not want to learn magic. I don't want to force my character, who isn't a fan of magic and mages in general due to in character experiences, to learn a magic when it would be completely against his values. What you suggest also completely cheapens the concept of magic. It's no longer magical when everyone on the server is proficient in multiple T5 magics and has an arsenal of enchanted artefacts. Wouldn't that take away from your sense of being rewarded for learning magic, more so than a bunch of silly humans running round with guns shooting each other? Nobody is forcing you to come and roleplay with the humans.

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    Techlock and weaponry

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    15 minutes ago, overlord2305 said:

    It doesn't matter if others could use the tech too due to the overwhelming numbers advantage humans posses over every other race.

     

    I fail to see how humans having the largest population means they should be forbidden from inventing and developing their own combat technologies to survive in a world with the magical equivalent of guns and the internet already existing. There must at least be some consistency with the techlock if it is to be enforced on humans.

     

    9 minutes ago, overlord2305 said:

    It doesn't matter if others could use the tech too due to the overwhelming numbers advantage humans posses over every other race.

    Say for instance it makes defeating someone 10 % easier. If everyone got said tech the increase in ease of killing would have gone up for humans by a far higher percentage than for other races even if every individual got the same increase.

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    There is no balance when it comes to roleplay fighting. There's no measurable scale of how easy it is to defeat someone. There's no making someone 10% easier to defeat. There is no calculable "ease of killing" rate. What it comes down to is two people acting out characters through text emotes. If someone wants to abuse the system and powergame to defeat you, they would do it whether or not they had a gun.

     

    11 minutes ago, overlord2305 said:

    Now I hear you say "we'll put them behind a application if you want to use them" at which point you could just as well get magic instead of ADDING MORE DANG SYSTEMS INSTEAD OF IMPROVING AND USING THE ONES ALREADY IN PLACE LIKE A DANG POLITICIAN

    A lot of human characters don't like magic or would want to become a mage. Is it so wrong for a culture to want some level of technology to even the playing field, without having to shoehorn their character into a mage-scholar archetype to get magic? Let us have our fun, it wont impact your experience negatively in any way.

     

     

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    Techlock and weaponry

    in Axios OOC Archive

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    2 minutes ago, overlord2305 said:

    So I re read my original post a few times and honestly I can't see anything that would suggest I think humans want to take over lotc, just that they're the most powerfull race already. So did you just reveal your own agenda like a third rate bond villain or...?

     

    Seems to me that your original post states that the humans would be unable to have anything resembling technology without using it to further their OOC lotc power level, which I can assure you would not be the case. Also, said advancements would not be exclusive to humans and I'm unsure what makes you think it would be. If they were the powergaming doomsday devices that they're claimed to be (which they wont be), there is nothing stopping an elf or uruk from picking one up. But would they use one? Considering the wide range of destructive magic and technology already available, a small projectile fired by the energy of a fine black powder pales in comparison to lightning bolts or flame-spitting gauntlets.

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    Techlock and weaponry

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    5 minutes ago, overlord2305 said:

    You are aware you disaprove of me lumping the human rpers together into a group only to do exactly the same in the next paragraph right

     

    You lumped us into one negative stereotype that all humans want to do is rule the lord of the craft. I presented the idea that humans (and obviously yes, there are a few exceptions to the rule, but that is the case with every statement you can make about lotc and online communities in general) do not try and stomp on the magic roleplay that a large amount of the server enjoys, yet have our aspirations and progressions halted because..?

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    Techlock and weaponry

    in Axios OOC Archive

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    1 hour ago, overlord2305 said:

    Giving humans more power has to be the least well tought through idea I've heard in a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time. You want to give the humans, the most powerfull and numerous race on the server, that tends to group together into one, sometimes two massive faction(s) dwarfing ALL others even more power? Are you not taking into acount that even if anything given to them gave them just a 10% increase in 'power' that would still mean that every other race would be at an even larger disadvantage against the already disgustibgly large human factions nations etc.

     

    Despite what you may think, not every human on the server is interested in dominating everyone else. Maybe that's because the human playerbase is a diverse group with lots of varying playstyles, like every other group on the server. It is unfair of you to lump us all into one stereotype, then claim we should be denied any form of progression and advancement simply because we are the largest community.

     

    Perhaps you have not taken into account that weaponry and technology exists in lotc that dwarfs the power of early gunpowder weapons. Us filthy humans do not clamour to hinder others roleplay and prevent this magic-tech arms race, so why should other people be able to decide what roleplay we are allowed to enjoy. The techlock should be a two way street, not a way to artificially hold back a group when other aspects of magical technology on the server has been allowed to run wild.

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    [Your View] Metagaming

    in News & Announcements Archive

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    5 minutes ago, drfate786 said:

     

    Ok, I'll escalate the issue when nothing happens and watch as I get banned for doing such just so I can prove you wrong. 

     

    If you're worried about being banned for reporting another players rulebreaking then you should record/screenshot all your interactions with the GM team for evidence to protect yourself in the future. If you are particularly discriminated against by the GM team then use the anonymous staff reports. Systems are in place to prevent a corrupt GM team, you just have to utilise them if the issue arises. 

     

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    [Your View] Metagaming

    in News & Announcements Archive

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    13 minutes ago, drfate786 said:

    Go report someone for metagaming over skype and watch how the GM team responds. Watch them decline your ban report while the entire community makes fun of you for reporting them and then we'll see who's laughing. 

     

    If another player broke the rules and directly impacted my enjoyment of the server for the benefit of their own, I would take no issue in player reporting them even if I was ridiculed by the community. It is your own responsibility to stick up for yourself in game, even if you are afraid of any potential backlash. Call a GM and if they aren't willing to help then you out on a legitimate issue then escalate it. 

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    [Your View] Metagaming

    in News & Announcements Archive

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    I feel like city guardforces should be allowed to skype rally if some sort of alerting roleplay occurred from the person requesting backup. For example having alarm bells stationed around the city that you have to ring in RP before calling for backup. I agree with what Leo proposed that players should not be able to answer the call if they are arriving from where they couldn't hear the bell and must already be logged out. It could be mandatory that it was carried out RPly rather than just MC sprinting to the bell structures at the first sign of conflict and insta-rallying like "shouting" for a friend or blowing a previous non-existent warhorn be outlawed.

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