DrakeHaze.

When I wasn't banned I have had the opportunity to RP with her. If words could describe the experience I would have to choose "awsmazing". I definitely support her for GMship and think she would be a wonderful part of the staff.

+1

Really, this is unprofessional and kind of rude. I understand you feel strongly about this, but try to be polite. Threatening people when they are playing characters the way they like to, when they've already created and played their characters is not fair. They shouldn't be held accountable for an action that did not break any rule if a rule is imposed after the fact, and insinuating this does not create a valid argument. I think a lot of people viewing this thread are looking for mature discussion, and this threat is neither mature or thought-provoking. Try to keep it constructive, it doesn't help your argument if you don't.

It was not a threat he was making a valid statement on what would actually happen if there was a Orc Racial App and the person did not have proper reasoning to be a whitewash. Also isn't Lorebreaking against server rules and considered powergaming? xD

Keep in mind this is regarding Orcs and Whitewash Orcs and some of the people posting have never been an Orc... it disgruntles me quite a bit.

Hmm... this topic now has my attention...

Chill out and quit trying to be a dictator. The bloodlust and everything else should definitely NOT be required. It's about how your character is raised and the experiences they've had that shapes their mannerisms.

A curse is a curse. No matter what someone says unless a post is made to clarify the racial curses "Not being required" all players should RP their respective races curse or it would be considered lore breaking (Which is actually what most whitewash are). The only problem I have with Whitewash Orcs is the majority of them I have seen powergame, break lore, and tend to not have any explanation as to why they are whitewash. I always RP'd as Whitewashes having a birth defect to explain how Whitewashes act the way they do. You say how the character was raised... lets go with obvious scenarios in which case the character becomes or is born a Whitewash Orc.

Scenario 1

Whitewash parents (Never seen them in RP). Sure you can just create fake parents and make that the basis of your characters back story to explain how the character is whitewash... but then the question becomes, how realistic is your backstory? Whitewashes are not supposed to be able to control their bloodlust due to not being born of real Orcs (Term lightly used to express the difference between Orcs and Whitewash).. that would also mean the parents of said whitewash cub would have a hard time controlling their bloodlust and not training their child would result in the cub also not being able to control bloodlust which ends in bloodbath (Should end..) once the cub has matured at the age of 8. Whitewash parents is also a hard subject to wrap my head around seeing as most whitewashes would not be able to survive that long to find a mate and have kubs without succumbing to their curse and murdering someone or something (Usually someone due to environment the Orc is in... a whitewash environment) and will end up being killed, jailed, or simply going insane and becoming more savage than real Orcs (Hard to believe, eh?). IF a whitewash Orc can explain how they control their bloodlust and how they learned to then I am content.

Scenario 2

Another race adopted to abandoned Orc kub (No idea how that happens) and the kub is raised as said race or whatever shenanigans revolve around a adopted Orc child xD

Like in the previous scenario it would most likely result in bloodbath at the age of 8 (Mainly because other races do not share Orc curse so they would not know how to control it). Simply explaining how your character is able to control the negative effects of being an Orc will suffice.

Scenario 3

Being abandoned in the wilds (Unsure if anyone used that). If the kub is able to live and grow without their parents in the wilds, without being taught how to survive, without the guidance of other Orcs... that Orc is quite gifted and I want to hug them! I do not see how that makes a whitewash Orc however seeing as they would grow in a harsh environment. Maybe as they grew they visited other races and lived with them? Either way this scenario for me would make the most sense for a whitewash Orc because not only have they been able to survive on their own, they are most likely able to control their blooldlust (Term used loosely as even real Orcs get overwhelmed by it).. so then it would all depend on who they've encountered and their basis on Orcs (Lets face it, a race would lean towards their own race rather than embracing another).

There are plenty more scenarios however I'm sure I needn't go over all of them to get a point across. Bloodlust is the key issue here! (Also backstory..) There are a few issues I've seen with whitewash Orcs.

1. Metal Jaws - This to me does not make sense to me scientifically (Don't bash me because I bring science into fantasy). Most of the time a metal jaw would hinder speech more but in certain players' cases they tend to be able to speak perfect common aswell as speaking perfect Orc. That's a big NO for me. (Also tusk removal is another touchy subject)

2. Powergaming - This should be number 1 on my list actually... Whitewash Orcs are not strong like Kurghai trained Orcs (Majority of real Orcs are Krughai trained). No matter how much you lift... you will not be combat ready against a Krughai trained Orc. Sure you could have gotten some training from numerous other sources outside the War Uzg but it is not Orcish training. I am not saying Orcish training > Other... I am stating that Orcish training is meant for ORCS meaning it's the best training for them as a race. A thought came to my mind just now... are some of the whitewash Orcs only Orcs so they can be more "Powerful" compared to the other races they hang around? Just incase that might be the case... you're not.. at most you would be on par with another nations soldier.

3. Whitewash Ratio - No I am not going to say there are too many whitewashes. What I am going to say is the ratio is quite ridiculous for whitewashes would be killed on sight or sent to a Whitewash rehab. I am also not saying to kill off whitewash characters after a month, however a whitewash should not be out in the open so much as they are (OOCly you know your character cannot die, however ICly your character would know if it was in sight too long the possibility of it's life ending is quite high!). Simply keep in mind that the ratio is ridiculous and that Whitewashes would work in groups to stand their ground or shrink into shadows or simply go unnoticed.

I feel I have more to say but I cannot get the words out of my head at the moment (I am a tired person :P )

I just got it when I attempted to login couple seconds ago. My bad.

*A burning note magically appears in your hands, you quickly read it before your hand gets burnt*

Supportify this fat one or be sent into a pit of fire!

Support.

I do not support this Gm application for my own reasons which I shall keep to myself.

Name: Grogmar'Gorkil

Race: Orc

Tourny: Tournament 1v1 Open for all

Slave cells, stables for our mounts inside the ship, feasting area, large Gobo engineering room, large blacksmith, assembly line for weapons/armor, weapon training area with firing range for ranged weapons, wine cellar type thing, food storage with snow and ice to keep it cool, small gauntlet training course... not much else i can think of right now xD

Banned for not going into detail on the 'one guy' reason

Banned for cats

Banned for joining in 2012

-snip-

With the current skill system we have I am able to take on about 3 people. If I was to RP fight it would be powergaming to win against 3 opponents at once. Another thing I'd like to point out is Skills with RP fighting. Someone has 100 stealth, are they just going to dodge almost everything or does the skill system not apply to RP?

I can see this rule change being abused. There are people who make characters that run into a city and refuse to follow the laws and eventually the entire guard appears to try and arrest this person. 10 vs 1 it's obvious the 1 would lose horribly however he can refuse to PvP fight and the RP would simply be too difficult to perform without allot of confusion.

I am an Orc and I am usually in full diamond and I have unarmed 100. When I RP punching someone with my spiked gauntlets they usually emote, gets punched a shuffles backwards blood running down their face [Keep in mind this happened before and the person had no armor]. I never say anything about the persons judgement on the matter of a 8 foot tall, muscular orc punching them in the face with a spiked gauntlet. However, when a person emotes dodging my every attack with "Dodges the slow Orc" I tend to get a little annoyed. I understand this is a RP server but there is no way a diamond-clad Orc will ever lose to a non-armored man. It just makes no sense to drag out an hour long RP fight because someone doesn't want to be killed. As we all know everyone is a special snowflake and if they're a warrior of any kind they tend to RP as being the best of the best, therefore making them the best fighter. RP fights get even worse when you throw magic into the mix. In my personal opinion magic is very powergamey. I know there are good RPers for magic however i've seen on multiple occasions after the Magic App of people powergaming magic. The most recent was a Apprentice illusionist mind controlling someone to instigate a fight. If an apprentice illusionist can mind control at that level, I'd hate to see what a master illusionist is capable of.

RP fighting is fun an enjoyable... with the right people. However voiding RP because someone powergames is stupid or voiding RP because 5v1 is too complicated to RP fight and the 1 person refuses to PVP. An actual fight lasts a couple second and at most a minute if we're being realistic, while some RP fights last an hour and eventually someone intervenes. There are even some occasions where an RP fight was happening and after 20 minutes one of the fighters friends showed up and helped him. Voiding RP is the worst way to handle a situation, not only does it waste people's time but it makes no RP sense to suddenly have amnesia.

Im coming back ina week or so

I am going to quote you if you do not. You need to be there for the next hunt... it's going to be special.

First off the reason we're on Mogroka's TS is because allot of players were banned from the LoTC TS and still wanted to be able to talk, however most have been un-banned and I am sure we will return.

As for Rex, we have basically forced Brevias a High Shaman Witchdoctor to become said Rank. Nobody really likes to lead a nation I guess.

Orcs are at war with nobody and war-claims are not being accepted until further notice, therefore No Wars at all.

We are changing but I'd rather not say what we are changing. If you're an Orc you'll find out IC and will be asked to help out possibly.

Major Orcs or Acitve Orcs listed here: A * means I have seen them on everyday for a couple hours, therefore most active Orcs

Rex_Brevias

*Targoth_Moksha_Lur

*Nob_Shar'ku_Gorkil

Zogtar_Lur

Almost forgot about Pawk

*Kommando_Grogmar'Gorkil

Nob_Grool'Gorkil however he has recently been playing another character

Ned Lud is back, forgot to mention that~

Edit: There are some people who have alt Orcs that usually go on for fun such as Braxis and his Gub character. Keep in mind the names i've listed are people I have seen online around my time. EST timezone and i've been on from 3pm - 12am, school has really messed with our population however that is not the only reason for the large decline in Orcs~

MC Name: DrakeHaze / Omnyaxle

Duty you'd like to apply for: Orcs

Concepts: We just got a brand new orc city, the orcs are yet to even discuss the concepts. Most likely will discuss with Mogroka.

Other works:

Orcish Huts, Slums

Do you have TeamSpeak?: Yub-yub

This is my first post in months and its for a good reason... If Availer is comming back Im certainly looking foward the server as it was with him...

Im comming back in 3.0 if he stays! And for what I've heard of many Ex-LOTC Members they are as well...

EDIT: If Mogroka is gone of the Admin and GM Team by that time, its sure most of us are comming back. And thats the only thing we are asking Availer... Mogroka has been kicking LOTC's Old members out since he became Administrator, he has even claimed that he used cheats, harrased people in teamspeak while drunk, and ruined roleplay in so many awefull ways that Im really lucky he is on hospital right now because he would probably delete this. No one has dared to deal with him and many LOTC Current Members know what Im talking about.

Count of Original LoTC Member's Lost: 43 Players since January 2012 (All of them because Mogroka's Constant Grief)

Mog is in the Hospital and you have the gall to speak ill of him in a post? Very mature. Blaming things on Mog when he cannot even make a statement to defend himself? Cowardly. I recommend you take a break from the internet and cool off.

[VOID]

*Grogmar walks into the Rex palace and notices Gorgul has mysteriously vanished and screams at the top of his lungs* MI AM REX! HURHUR KHALLENGE MI!

Does this have something to do with Vaq's custom code? I know dozens, if not hundreds of other servers use remote restart features with no trouble.

We're LoTC, home of custom plugins! FEAR DA CODE!!

*Cough* <Insert Popular Race as Vote> *Cough*

That one time she got kidnapped she starting floating around my basement in a boat. Obviously she has been chosen to be the next floating boat queen and yada yada yada. supported. +0 -1 -(-1) + 1

If you RP having Diamond armor or solid diamond weaponry it is powergaming basically. There is no way to craft diamond into armor or into a sword IRL so unless Magic was involved in crafting Diamond armor and such then it is impossible, therefore it is usually RP'd as heavy armor or Iron plate or something. Grool has already explained that the lore was hidden or deleted by a LM even though it was accepted awhile ago. I've seen them RP making Skahiron armor and it is complete and udder pain in the butt. It's like 30 minutes of RP ._.

Anyway point is I think all the questions have been answered so this should be locked unless you have more questions.

I AM VONAULUS(VonAulus). VonEbs is my twin brother who is currently banned. Did you read what I said people, HAWK, THE GM, said we could rp it. WE CAN NOT SHOW YOU THE POST For THE LORE BECAUSE GAUIS MARIUS, a loremaster, DELETED/HID it. I love how everyone knows more then Zogtar and I, the creators of steel(skahiron). Since when do I have to get Tavari's permission to rp diamond as steel? I have more rp behind steel then you do behind healing people when they die at the temple. So realy, gtfo.

SHHHHH THEY'LL USE THEIR WARDS OF NO VIOLENCE AND MAKE THE ORCS A BUNCH OF SISSY'S!!!

here is the screenshot of the RP avoid made by you

Dynasty killed himself for being uncomfortable. Is that a form of suicide or something O.O? Hurhur, well losing in something does tend to make you uncomfortable I guess.