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On 12/15/2023 at 3:02 PM, satinkira said:

looks really cool, but this will only work with an active frost witch playerbase which last time I checked didn't really exist. feel free to correct me if wrong, regardless I hope this passes

 

 

 

 

 

lets just deny any attempts for the fw playerbase to get back on their feet instead, that will help them out

The Frost Mother was in complete and utter shock at the missive. She did not expect for Dwarves to think of her as a bringer of Krugmas. She does not know how to feel about this. The only thing that went through her mind was "what the ****."

Naele begins to pump out war-penguins for the oncoming battle in overthrowing the Elves.

2 minutes ago, Privet said:

 

 

You admit the spells are mostly useless. . . .
Your mistake is that I'm criticizing femurlord directly (who I am friends with, you don't need to take offense for him), and not the Dark CA community in general.

Once again, no actual response to the fact that these are supplements for frost witch rituals, which apparently are also useless according to Agy, except for healing, reviving, or for marts (which btw, is what I hear to be the main complaint of playing a frost witch, that it is difficult for frost witches to be revived because of a lack of frost witches). If all of these things are useless and a series frost witches have decided to leave the CA after a couple of weeks, either your filter for creating frost witches isn't strong enough, or people find playing in the CA tiresome or unenjoyable, which I would recommend a rewrite to the main magic rather than an addition.

i dont know if ur purposefully misunderstanding any of the responses or genuinely cannot seem to comprehend what is being said

3 minutes ago, Privet said:

1. The disabling of; manipulating and conjuring ice, summoning an ice sword, temporary mending, and helping in rituals, an understandable defect, but two of these can be easily supplemented by carrying a sword and alchemical remedies (which affect them normally), and since going below 3 warmth causes further defects, they may hesitate to even use these spells because they can be supplemented.
2. femurlord often walks around in a decrepit, smelling, old man disguise with sagging flesh, but if you immediately called him out as darkspawn you would likely be called a metagamer because there's no proof beyond him being a decrepit, smelling, old man with sagging flesh. Sure, your eyes glow, but if someone considered that horribly frostbitten person anything but a horribly frostbitten person, and tried to kill them, they would likely also be called a metagamer.
3. I don't think mental disabilities and self harm are much of a defect, which begin once they go below 3 Warmth, as most darkspawn roleplay the former already, and the latter a nuisance when they already need to steal the warmth of others (which can be considered a chore in itself). Utilizing 'Cold Touch' which while the same emotes as other Undead draining spells, can be considered stronger simply because the drained person forgets everything leading up to the interaction. I don't believe this generates roleplay beyond simple encounters where people are attacked and drained, leaving them to roleplay feeling cold and frostbitten, which they don't have to seek healing for, besides any injuries inflicted in the combat leading up to that. 
 

1. they r flavor spells with not that much of a benefit really, making them going mentally insane and risking revealing their nature is good enough of a drawback for them to summon an ice sword instead of pulling a steel one out of its sheath which can also melt by fire

2. i dont see how dissing femurlord proves any point in this argument. 'yea this one guy screams metagamer even though he looks undead so if you guys look obviously undead i'm gonna get banned'. why are we comparing an old man to a frostbitten ghoulish creature with glowing eyes?

3. the drain ability OPTIONALLY allows the removal of memories following the death memory loss mechanics because i personally believe that murderhoboing people is no bueno as a spook and offering them an alternative by keeping them alive and causing slight memory loss is a much better alternative. pretty much every other dark magic has some form of memory removal of the likes.


 

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There is no mention that Jokul have to wait any amount of time to learn and cast spells between their connection/transformation, and it is not described how they learn their spells. There is nothing stopping a frost mother from doing as I described, connecting a Jokul, using them for Disperse, and disconnecting them. Also, forcing someone, if disconnected, to forget everything that happened while they were a Jokul? How is this meant to generate roleplay?

no tiered system as it's just a lowly feat my guy. they learn spells through a TA holder, as how every magic works.
also from the previous conversation hours ago (idk how long) there was a limit added of 1 week per jokul cursed meaning that its not just a hassle but a waste of time, the connection and instant disconnect thing is a rly weak argument. the memory loss thing was clarified afterwards and we decided on just having the identities of their kin stripped from their memories and the likes. it's essential, as jokul is pretty much a trial period while also serving as a new niche to those wanting to stay within the FA to help sort things out. there were many instances of people getting the CA then dipping, or others that get the CA, enjoy it for a week or two, then change their mind and start complaining to me and to the ST begging to be reverted. jokul fixes that

 

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I don't believe this piece is entirely necessary, even as a 'trial period', as most of these abilities can simply be supplemented by other things, and mainly serves as an avenue to complete frost witch rituals without the need of other frost witches, considering one frost mother would be able to make a total of FIVE Jokul.

you can stop believing then

14 minutes ago, Operator_Bugman said:

I like this +1 would be a snowman

Though I do have to ask, does it have compatibility with other CAs? How would that work, I see it doesn't specify other magics that it's compatible with so can a blood mage be one, does it have the capability to overlap with frost witch magic as well?

so in the lore, it's stated that when you become fjarriagua, your FA goes zzz, although you may return to the FA should you dislike the CA during the period that you're allowed to reverse it (1 week), otherwise you'll remain as a CA without your FA

there's also a redline that states you have to be a descendant and have a non-lesser soul in order to become jokul, meaning that musin cannot be one, while descendant races (human, elves, orcs, halflings, dwarves) may become jokul.

there's also a redline that states the compatibilities/incompatibilities with magics, barring deific for obvious reasons
-The Jøkul becomes incapable of learning any Deific / Holy magics except Seer. Any other magic is allowed.

i'll see how i can make it easier to find & read if you had difficulties with it and clarify it some more

1 minute ago, AmericanSniper52 said:

Can male descendants be afflicted with this weaker version? Since frost witches are supposed to be female (according to my limited knowledge of the CA) I am wondering if this one will be able to be done to non-female descendants. 

yes, theres a redline that clarifies males can become jokul

4 minutes ago, Calise11 said:

I remember reading a comment on a previous post about the FW's saying that you had previously created lore that's "passable" But not enjoyable. This looks very fun for all party's. This sounds like it will massively mitigate the issues into teething into this aspect of roleplay within the coven, allowing people to learn about the lore as their persona progressively grows creating a more effective and better quality roleplay for everyone. Appreciate how much time you've put into creating something everyone can enjoy. 

thank you, appreciate it
i know what post you're talking about though, it was a reply to the current fw lore, which wasn't written by myself

2 hours ago, Privet said:

No cooldown or time required to be created? Instant disconnection of the jøkur if they refuse?
This seems like an FA written purely to supplement the amount of Frost Witches required to conduct their rituals, more than a few of them requiring two or three witches to be together, and being able to instantly create 5 of these guys, 

they start with MAX warmth, they then can immediately use Disperse and take part in a ritual, this is basically a recipe to instantly conduct rituals and disconnect people after they've been useful, without having to deal with connecting and disconnecting frost witches who may potentially work against you.
 

 

 

also. . . .. . . . . . . . froststalker. . . .

 

EDIT: Also, there doesn't seem to be any actual effect caused by lacking Warmth, except for looking decrepit. For something that they would need and crave, this is very lacking mechanically, though I believe mana systems to be more bothersome than groundbreaking, anyways.

I feel like you haven't read the lore at all
The effects of losing warmth 1) disables their casting, 2) makes them look obviously dark-adjacent, 3) makes them go mentally coo coo to the point of wanting to touch literal sources of fire in a desperate attempt to regain warmth.
seeing as how this FA is mostly flavor than anything else, as their abilities are really just. instead of carrying a weapon you can conjure it out of ice with similar properties but objectively worse due to its weakness to fire, an ice bandaid and finally an ability that allows you to partake in rituals. i don't believe that giving them a harsh feeding mechanic beyond mental detriments / flavor would be healthy for the FA

also good points to both you and @Turbo_Dogon the cooldown thing. also, disconnection requires CONSENT from the jokul unless it's their own mother, because this is a FA that serves as a form of trial period for the most part for the fjarriagua, where they get a taste of the CA, but also not fully, so they get to actually be involved in things and do things, while serving as a new niche altogether for the coven before they know whether to fully commit, or if they wanna stay as an FA and fill another niche, or just dip altogether. there WILL be cases where a mother has accidentally recruited a jackass, requiring her to disconnect that jokul later down the line. keep in mind, only that jokul's Mother can disconnect them without consent. everything else requires consent

also who goes through the trouble of cursing people for an FA, making them join a ritual, then have to go through the entire ordeal that is having to disconnect them afterwards and contact the ST to keep them up to date on their FA? that's so mindblowingly stupid i didn't even think of it as a possibility

5 hours ago, Turbo_Dog said:

Ok so with 5 total slots per mother. Is there a cool down between creation or can I create them all back to back same day? And I take it when a Jøkul PKs a slot frees up right?

yh, adding cooldown and the FA freeing up slot after PK rn to the FA, gimme a moment to update it

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[!] A drawing of the inner walls of Hyspia, with a short-haired man kneeling on the ground, in front of an armored executioner.

OOC: The knowledge in here is unavailable, as the only thing that can be RPly found are 1) the remains, 2) the letter. Anything else will be considered metagaming.

n the waning twilight, the ancient city of Hyspia, carved from the heart of the desert’s golden sandstone, trembled under an ominous silence. Its intricate spires and arches, once echoing with the songs of the bazaar, now stood as silent witnesses to an approaching dread. From the horizon, where the sun's last embers kissed the earth, there emerged a procession most macabre: a cadre of raiders, a fusion of bone and chitin, their forms a grotesque ballet of the living and the undead.

Í myrkrinu, þar sem ljósið deyr, vaknar draugur.

In darkness, where light dies, a specter awakens.

s they advanced, the very air around them seemed to grow colder, the ground beneath their feet crying out in silent agony. The city's inhabitants, their faces etched with terror and disbelief, watched as this macabre army marched through Hyspia's streets, their intentions as dark as the void from which they seemed to have spawned.

Ógnin nálgast, hún gengur á meðal okkar.

The menace approaches, it walks among us.

midst this chaos, a solitary figure emerged from the safety of his abode – Deimtrey, a knight of Hyspia, whose bravery was as legendary as his skill with the blade. Clad in tarnished armor, he stood defiantly before the invading force, a lone beacon of courage in the face of insurmountable odds.

Hjarta hans slær sem trommur fyrir lokadansinn.

His heart beats like drums for the final dance.

ith a heart pounding against the confines of his chest, Demitrey engaged the raiders in combat. Steel clashed against bone and chitin, echoing through the desolate streets like a mournful dirge. In a dance as old as war itself, He fought valiantly, his sword a silver flash in the encroaching darkness. 

But fate, as fickle as the wind, was not on his side. A spear, as cold and merciless as death itself, found its mark, impaling him through the chest, anchoring him to the earth he had sworn to protect.

Sorgin og örvæntingin fylla nóttina.

Sorrow and despair fill the night.

earby, tragedy unfolded in tandem. A man, his leg severed in the gruesome melee, fell to the ground, his cries of agony piercing the night. Not far from him, a woman, clutching a Lorraine cross in trembling hands, screamed for help, her voice a haunting lament that resonated in the hollow hearts of the undead assailants.

Dögun ljóssins ber vitni um tóm hennar.

Dawn's light bears witness to her emptiness.

et, as dawn's first light broke over the horizon, casting a pale glow over the carnage, a chilling realization befell the city of Hyspia. No bodies lay in the streets; no remnants of the brave souls who had faced their end. The raiders, had taken them all, leaving behind nothing but blood, echoes of despair and the haunting memory of their presence.

Og í lokin stendur aðeins þögnin eftir.

And in the end, only silence remains.

he once vibrant streets were empty, the laughter and life that had filled them now a distant memory, as fleeting as the shadows at dawn. Hyspia, with its sandstone walls stained with the sorrows of the fallen, had its very bustling life taken away.

ut a note, was left. Its words, written in blood, and incomprehensible. The only legible words, were those of threats.

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