Whitebeard

He means our 'ancestors' as in previous elves, for the record.

"Many of those who pray to these gods, have fallen for the same lies and delusions the many of those who have lived before them. The gods are a fictional creation, with one purpose; power." -Artaeum

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The Wood Elves are light on members yes, but so are we. We have to get players from somewhere, besides it is up to them whether or not they choose to become a High Elf or not and it really shouldn't be up to us to dictate whether or not they can. I don't really see the issue in regards to being able to change subrace and obviously the server admins don't either, with the ability to /subrace without the help of a GM. I think the word Elitist fits the High Elves quite excellently, because thats exactly what they are. The Mali'Aheral way is essentially a culture, other high elven players often do not value the same things therefore doesn't affect them the slightest. What it means to be a High Elf or a Wood Elf is completely up to the individual, we at no point have claimed to tell anyone how they should act or behave, provided they do not belong or have entered Haelun'or. Our lore states that these pools were involved in our transition from common elves to High Elves. It is simply a piece of lore created to explain how we came to be. I understand your argument against the subrace changing ability and to be honest this idea hasn't be officially introduced to the server so refining and long discussions on the matter have yet to be held. I don't fully understand the purpose of your 3rd paragraph, I have explained numerous times that no one could or would be forcibly made into a high elf due to the long amount of time it would take even if the lore was introduced. Meaning there would be no power 'misuse'. I again don't fully understand why the server would have to undergo some amazing change because of some fountain that caused us High Elves to originally exist..... Again I understand your reservations but the fact of the matter is, nothing has been officially adopted. Edit: And If I may also add, in regards to setting a precedents for changing subraces, players can change subraces freely. We are simply offering a legitimate RP reason as to how that might be possible.

This was purely an RP reason for the Orcs to go to war with us. The actual device in question which jokingly stated it was being used to experiment on the Orcs was a fire trap of sorts and in the war claim thread it said there were 'orc bones' in the traps which was a lie.

Perhaps you have experienced the same misinformation that we did in regards to the veils, but I have seen our lore and there is no way someone could be thrown in and turned into a High Elf. This is nothing more then a rumor or a case of miscommunication. The actual change from say 'Wood Elf' to 'High Elf' would be long and slow and is more than just changing them physically but also mentally in terms of RP attitudes.

The pools didn't need to be accepted by any GM(Nor have they been official implemented), they are no different then adding in pumpkins as sun protection.

Please be sure to remember to stay on topic and avoid insulting other players. The thread is directed at the OOC tension between both the Mori and the High Elves. Can we please be mature enough to act like adults? I direct this at both the High Elves and the Mori members. If this continues I will lock this thread.

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I would also recommend that all 'teachers' must submit a syllabus outlining all that will be taught within said class. This will be the deciding factor as to whether the class shall run or not. Also a follow up of all the information within the class should be written down so that students who were unable to attend can catch up ((Done through the forums)) -Okarir'lirran Artaeum

#lotc_OP :P

"Not in Favor" - Artaeum Okarir'lirran on the Proud Council of Haelun'or.

I would consider us very lucky if we were able to achieve the high level and consistency that Mogroka and the orcs operate at. Mogroka has done a fantastic job and should inspire us High Elves to see what we can become.

((There has been no official detachment from Haelun'or from Malinor, however IC I wouldn't call us exactly ruled by Malinor. Its a complex and confusing issue. To clarify being as your 'father' was a Wood Elf you would have no choice but to live with your Wood Elven brothers.

It is not our strengths that make us superior, but rather your weakness. Signed Okarir'indor Artaeum

MC NAME: Brettdude20 RP NAME: Okarir'Indor_Artaeum GENDER: Male JOB/STATS: Council Member Have a home?: Nay RACE: Mali'Aheral

To clarify anyone organizing such an event should be reported on the forums as such.

You're welcome.

Well one could very easily use one character to get a certain skill up and then use another account to get a different skill up therefore having two different sets of skills that could be maxed out.