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Sorry Hellfiaz but using both the Trog and Salvus/ joining them up is just too huge and out of the question. I am on the fence again on whether to stay or go, I feel like with this change will spark interest from people like austin, mingpow, bog, aislin, and generally just the orc'ish community to get involved more. Whereas if we stayed at the Trog these guys would still grudge the decision and it would stay the way that it is, a few and Grool doing all the work. The Trog is Grool's brainchild and so he is the one that does the majority of the work on it. I feel like Salvus is everyones brainchild and everyone wants to contribute and make it work. It could fix a problem you have been moaning about for months Grool with the lack of support from people when it comes to building. I don't want to see the Trog destroyed i'd rather we use it to for the pinkkie initiative stuff or preferably give it to the Kha to alter it to their liking. Ultimately guys, its Grools decision, the Yazgurtan has complete authority over land and domestic issues and if you want to move to Salvus you need to convince Grool rather than just shouting louder than him.

I feel like the biggest reason to move to Salvus is that it is a hub for RP because of its proximity to the Anthos Highway, but, we can easily expand the Trog down towards the Anthos Highway so that we are literally alongside the road, this would be a whole lot better than having a city simply viewable from the roadside. Even creating a small square/campfire adjoined to the Highway that can be the hub of the Trog for RP. Another question is defensibility, we could simply build walls around the Trog and make them as interesting and makeshift as possible whilst still serving their purpose. Who says when we expand down towards the Anthos Highway we can't build a fort on the other side of the road, so that not only do we have more defenses but you are literally passing through the Trog as you go along the road. I really feel we have something good in the Trog. Grool is more open than anyone to changes as I have seen him tear down his work upon even the slightest suggestion from someone that it doesn't look right. 'We can get what we want out of what we have.' After all, why should we live in a city build by skahin' pinkiiez.

*Morakk gets a goblin to scribble up a note for him, it reads; Mi bid 15000, mi agh mi bubbozh bruddaz hav hozh uze fur dis mazk! Wi can du it aniwhere, mi gruk latz nub 'toopid enuf to lie tu an uruk!

Desperately in need of a new design in my opinion. If you take a look at some other minecraft servers you can see how much better their website designs are, http://www.dungeonrealms.net/

Morakk smirks as he returns to the Trog, upon his shoulder rests a large piece of quartz as he saunters towards his brothers; "Brudddahz, mi haz a peeze uv thu throne from thu pinkkiez ovur d'ere! *he points towards Salvus in the distance. "Hur hur! Lez dizplay it agh show dem 'ummie globs whuz the hozh'ezt!"

What is this offer you speak of? If this 'helping hand' is in the form of lore-writing then sign him up Grool!

Herod Valorheart grabs the minas and grins. Mc Name: RossssM

Genuinely very interesting Grool! Keep it up.

*Morakk chews loudly on the arm of a halfling as he reads the scroll. He scratches his message beneath: Mi buy latzz skifishhy! Ull uv thum! Mi cumin' tufind latz! *He then saunters off around lenfarthing in search of Lenovive

Not that thing they call football even though they use their hands and its an egg. Not the real football?

Mc Name- RossssM Rank needs to be updated from Gold VIP to Diamond VIP. Thanks

I did warn you it wasn't a good idea to build in the Badlands! Although, I wasn't involved in whatever went on.

I'm sure Vaq realises that making a client-mod needs at least a few really good coders and will be an unbelievable task. If people are willing to buck up some extra donations towards it Vaq will NEED to get more coders on-board. A few really good coders, better than Vaq[Not saying Vaq is unable, but it would help], to get this thing going.

I thought it would have been: Renatus- Renatain Navy Rather than: Renatus- Renitian Navy

Alras is the perfect place to hold this. Minutes away from the cloud temple and a neutral host. The grand arena is nearly built and is looking to host events like such!

DONT DOUBLE/TRIPLE POST! XD

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I can sell you diamonds for 260 Minas each. Felix [RossssM]

[[ ]] The council consists of The Royal Architect, The High Constable, The Knights Commander, The Master Broker, The Royal Guildmaster/Ambassador, The High Chancellor and the Master Scribe. Unless this meeting has been called upon by the majority or the council members, or the King or Head Advisor. As far as I'm aware this 'council' isn't the government of Oren unless you can prove it follows the above. As far as I was aware, this is/was just a group of people putting their heads together to suggest ideas to the government for the good of Oren. And that, I am completely satisfied with and therefore there is absolutely no reason for this group to be disbanded as some seem to have suggested. However, it is most definitely not 'The Oren Government'.

Ah, well. A civilian group? I have no problem, I mis-understood. Just any suggestions that appear at the meeting tell I or one of the members of the Oren Government. However, I would like to speak to Luna urgently.

*Felix squints his eyes and frowns slightly when reading I'd like to know what this 'council' is and what position they hold? It is as if it is being suggested they have power over Oren at current, which they don't as far as I'm aware. Are they just a group of people suggesting ideas for Oren's good? If so, I've no problem with that! But, the Oren Government will probably be holding a meeting soon to discuss the events and troubles that have fallen upon Oren, I will speak to Enor and Dawn as soon as possible. [[http://www.lordofthecraft.net/forum/index.php?/topic/29393-the-government-of-oren/]]

*A scroll is underneath, written on behalf of Felix. A well, it is good to see an emergency group was put in place. But I am even more thankful Enor and I managed to escape from the undeads captivity. I'm sure the Oren Government will be having a council meeting soon, which if any of the temporary council members wish to have a guest seat I'n for the first meeting to relay any information, please try and speak to me. I'n afraid I am unable to travel Oren at present with my injuries, however, I shall hopefully be returning to health soon. Felix Farnsworth.

[[What's all this about the 'royal family'. I'd like to know what it is I'n particular Luna feels the need to call a meeting about. Felix Farnsworth.]]

[[John you can return as full guard, just go to one of the Captains IG. You don't seem to have consulted Huron on the post above Hayden^, I'm sure he sees Luke around a lot and I know Luke has been active. Sir Snowman the take-over of Al'Khazar was scripted, but I suppose you can't use that IC'ly. And we still have the best Military I'n Aegis.]]

[[Orens Government is already made up, The head advisor Dawn Perea will/should most likely take charge while Enor is gone. And the two guard captains are fine leading the guard the way they are. I'm sure if Damien Glaft(Who as far as I'm aware isn't part of Oren) can speak to Dawn about voicing his opinions at any meetings that take place.]]