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Oh gracious and merciful kowaman, I would reply to the thread but you have strangely locked it, something most confusing for surely leaving it unlocked would allow people to reply to things you've written, anywhom you spoke about vortex being incomplete and things still work in progress so my question is why you guys forced a plugin nowhere near finished onto us and remained silent about it for weeks so that nicky faces all of the abuse for it when in reality it was you guys forcing him to release an unfinished plugin?