The Templar

Aila smiles as her friends in the Qalasheen become allies of her home nation.

Is this going to be allowed for the arcane only, or is this for everyone to use?

Then might I respectfully suggest altering the lore in that direction? Otherwise very few of the issues are touched on at all.

I'm sorry if this comes across rude, but what in regards to the druids and magic? Current ferals are a problem, but /that/ is a bigger one when you consider how quickly it got overtaken by druids and transformed into a combative shapeshifting. You were there for the early days of this, if I recall correctly.

I'm sorry, Dark, but this lore is even worse than Starfelt's. It addresses none of the problems, whereas atleast the other rewrite half-heartedly slapped a band-aid on a couple issues. -1

I'm giving this a hard -1. I was cautiously optimistic when the first feral lore was passed, but not anymore. It didn't take a month for the alphas to be seized by druids and kept by them, and ever since it's been one issue after another. Ferals RPing enhanced senses in descendant form. Ferals ignoring the effects of blood. An IRP bastardization from a curse to a gift that demands to be shared and worshipped. Repeated attempts to remove an entire playerbase from interaction by attempting to cut out holy magic's effects on an unnatural beast. No. This isn't werewolf RP, this is Shapeshifting: Combat Edition. Cut the druids out of the picture entirely. They not only have enough lore, they /have/ a shapeshifting lore. Make Ferals the ruthless defenders of the Wild they should be, at odds with Druids who seek to preserve the wilderness whilst living in cities. Werewolves are an amazing antagonist, and here they're little better than Horo Cosplay. "Oh no am mad. Woof woof!" Strigae cannot learn magic, and from everything I've seen and heard, they've made wonderful antagonists. Pray tell what stops werewolves from being so awesome? A pack of werewolves raiding a city for having livestock would be pretty fun to fight. Remove the ability for werewolves to practice magic whatsoever. Why would Morea /allow/ his slaves to serve the Aspects, undercutting his own authority over them? Why would Morea allow them to practice voidal magics, an anathema to him and the nature he damned them to protect? Where is the antagonist RP we were promised? I've seen plenty of antagonistic OOC from ferals, including OOC harassment. Either fix this mess you've made of a classic antagonist, or remove the lore.

Twice-baked or hashbrowns! THERE CAN BE NO ALTERNATIVE!

I mean. Potions of regeneration exist. Just go ask a mother for her liver, brutally murder her face and void her participation in the RP when she refuses, and make one! Make sure she's of your race first, unless you want an ugly cancer arm. Or, you could go to your frie- oh wait no healer can remake limbs or major organs. At all. No matter how it's done and how much RP is made. The current choice is between killing someone for their liver, or getting a replacement.

We shall have to agree to disagree, then! Best of luck to your endeavors in molding the server to your liking.

Oh, I misunderstood then. Yeah it was mutilation/scrambled organs. Minor damage can absolutely be fixed but as it currently stands that's a T5 heal for clerics.

Let's use your own logic against you then. Take the humble zweihander. Lift it over your head in the german Oberhau, or overhand cut. You lift it above your head and then strike like you're splitting a particularly ugly piece of wood. The weight of the weapon combined with the action gives it quite a bit of force. A golem arm can be used in this exact same fashion, albeit I have no respect for anyone who allows such a wind-up without taking advantage of the necessary lack in guard.

The eye was completely mutilated and ripped from the socket. Clerical magic couldn't replace it due to the extensive damage, and we have great leeway when we have the original. I've also never heard such a complex organ called minor, either. Clerics have been arguing for years with the LT about this, trying to find a compromise that allows those rendered blind to see again.

Stone has more mass than flesh. A left hook will be weaker, but a hammer blow from above absolutely will not be as the excess weight is brought to bear. It requires alternative thinking.

The downsides of Golem Limbs is that they take a quarter of your life in exchange, and are slower. They're inherently superior to a normal limb in almost every other way. They're also a right bstard to repair. An elf can only live to 750 if they get a single rune limb, and the debuff stacks. Get two and you have 1/4th less of 750. I have personally seen the Ascended replace an eye from /nothing/ before. Your current lore may support this, or it may not. This is admittedly from February 2017, but this is why people keep mentioning it in this context.

That's all well and dandy, but by your logic combat escalation should be a thing. It's always immediately to swords. Swords are sharp and pointy and perfect for cutting your foe into tasty ribbons. Most fights I witness could've easily been resolved with fisticuffs instead of immediately going to lethal force. Try again.

We are not here to be your personal torture dolls, just as you are not here to be our whipping post. As you have said, this is a cooperative RP environment. That means give and take on both sides. There are /pages/ now of you refusing any and all give, demanding only take in this discussion. If this is how you RP with people, I'm honestly saddened to know. We're all the heroes of our own stories, but we are but side-characters in each other's stories. Some might have antagonists, some might not. What we all need to have a mutual respect for each-other's sensitivities and desires. A respect you have repeatedly refused to show. You twist the words of those who attempt to engage in amicable debate with you to support your own arguments. Your attitude is very much "My way or the highway" and that is just now how an environment like this functions. I have been on this server since 2013. You by your own admission have been here for two months. During the past five years since I joined, I have seen many things I didn't like nor agree with, yet I didn't begrudge them the RP they wanted. That's how this works. Brow-beating and insulting people only alienates them and makes them hate you for it. This is how we get accusations of "toxicity" and "cancer." By being unwilling to meet in the middle and compromise. Just because Congress forgot how doesn't mean we have to, too. On the other end of every character is a person. Someone who is here just to have fun, and may not share your ideas on how best to do that. That's okay. That's why you politely try to work with them. Are they unwilling to work with you? Then get a GM in a calm and collected fashion and ask for help. Not to force them to your will, but to find an acceptable middle-ground. Let's use torture for instance. You want to torture someone in a horrifyingly gruesome fashion. They don't want to RP it. You get a GM to help you find the middle-ground. Said middle-ground is a fade to black, or a straight execution depending on how severe your torture is. Please do remember we all what we think is best, and we naturally disagree in some fashion or another as a result.

Your entire argument stems from this singular power fantasy. "I think people should PK on rp death as a consequence, so all consequences should be permanent." So long as that's how you see, there's no further point discussing this. You will not change your mind, nor will you convince anyone else that your extreme response is the right way. You even threw in an honestly dated jab at "pixels" as a reason to not PK, instead of people possibly having complex stories they enjoy RPing rather than hardcore politics to see who sits on what chair.

I stand corrected, though folks already whine about people dying rather than lose limbs as it is. There has been a decided shift /away/ from RPing risk correctly, and that is partly due to the cleric you kept referencing. It's a work in progress right now. That said, if you'd like me to investigate this use of light therapy, you're more than welcome to ping me on discord. Clerics are capable of learning both, and some choose to do so. Thematically, I'm against forcing the issue, as there are some clerics that are very good at RPing shock and awe heals. A min/maxed cleric will learn the former, and all clerics need to know medicine to begin with. There's only so much you can do with magic, after all.

Respectfully? No. Unfortunately, not everyone wishes to RP grimdark mangling and snuff films. if you take away all recourses, you will see a drastic uptick in **bleeds out.** whenever this happens. That's already how it is halfway. Healing can permanently kill a cleric if they're not careful. Most of us are careful enough to not completely run out of mana and explode trying to save some baby that got bonked on the head by a mischievous child in a decidedly malicious fashion ((Yes. This happened before)) You have a very solid point, but I would go a step further. No combat healing whatsoever, and introduce a fatigue that prevents you from rejoining the fray. This isn't World of Warcraft where you cast holy shock on your friend about to die whilst screaming for the priest to stop jerking off and do their job. Once again, I respectfully disagree. All this does is mean magic will not be used at all by those wishing to inflict serious injury. They'll use mundane torture and then we're back at the start, except now we can't do a darn thing except tell them they should've bled out as our hands are tied.

Oh boy. The nerf healing bandwagon! Let's. Not. The way healing on this server is treated needs to be changed across the board. It isn't that it's too strong, it's that nobody respects it. There are no consequences whatsoever from treating your fellow healers like batteries right now. Why does an aengul that demands worship, like Tahariae, allow the unrepentant to be healed, for instance? In fantasy of all stripes, and ****, even IRL medieval accounts, these are seen as signs and wonders, miracles of great majesty that inspire awe. Here it's just.. Another day in the -insert city of choice here.- Why? Where is the faith that powers such acts? Clearly not from the people being healed. With all that said, a more measured response is to instead address how it is TREATED, not stick a band-aid on the problem. One such solution, while still drastic, is to require faith from the healee, too. Is it perfect? No, but it does address the casual interfaith healing that's giving such a horrible reputation to the act of healing itself. Clearly Tahariae, again using the deity I interact with most, likes being worshipped. Instead of "oh darn, my foot fell off! CLERIC!" Why not require the victim to profess faith in the deity and ask for healing alongside their healer? It's not like there's any reason /not to,/ unless you're secretly an anti-theist IRP or something.

Aila Avern would tremble in the aftermath of the purchase. Not because of the extortionist price, but because she had committed the unthinkable. "H-His will b-be d-done.." With Vulnikru executed, her name is struck from the histories of the Avern, to be forgotten and remembered no more.

Wonderful! The magic system you use is ingenious, and I'll be adapting it shortly for my students and I. The bolded names is quite a good idea, at that!

Do it. This has been one of the most tightly controlled cliques since inception, and it's high-time a sledgehammer got taken to the tome. +1

Oh. I'm sorry. Maybe I should've poked a necroderp before assuming y'all still had a f*ck off aura. Y'know.. Like you shoulda done for all of a certain cleric's powergaming? If no one will teach you something, odds are the fault is with you. Not always, but odds are still not in your favor. As for the ITHAREL? Hoo boi lemme pull up a chair. Or not. In short the Itharel were a powergrab by four clerics to solidify their hold on the magic. It was /not/ shared except among a teeny tiny clique that ruthlessly crushed anyone that so much as looked at them wrong. If you think a lone necroderp is bad, then.. Idk. Maybe you should be intelligent with how you engage your enemies? Or just do what everyone does and powergame Self-teach some fire evo. 10/10 fire evokers say it helps them kill. The Ascended are an issue I'm not going to touch, lest I get jumped for it like the last several times.