Mining

Mental magic can not connect to a large amount of minds at one (I think a master mental mage can do more than one but it's quite difficult) , so simultaneously doing it to a large group of people is out of the question. Furthermore, you can't (to my knowledge, I may be wrong) force an emotion on someone, but you can present stimuli that would create that emotion. Eg you can't make someone enraged, but you can make an illusion of their wife being held at knife point. THat sort of thing. What I'm saying here might be wrong as I'm not a mental mage and mental magic is locked. Remember that, it's LOCKED so you need a teacher for it. If you have a teacher, ask them

Jonathan slowly breaks into a tired smile as he listens to everyone discuss. Tapping his staff against the table to get everyones attention, he clears his throat and speaks up "Thank you to all of you whom have come and voiced your thoughts and support" he starts, giving a nod to each who attended, both those he knew well and those he does not "For this new era of Delvers to be successful, we must ensure the mistakes of the past are rectified. Leadership must be clear and our purpose clearer" he slowly scans the small group, looking upon each face and making eye contact with each of them "When Polgrath first started the Delvers, they were a small group of adventurers banding together in their pursuit of knowledge, seeking safety from those whom would see mages hunted down. Times have since changed, but our goals need not. Let us be adventurers and seekers of knowledge before all else. Not a military. Not some ancient order of magic. Adventurers who have each others backs. "Heial" he says, turning to look at the old pearl "Firstly, congratulations on the body" he says with a slight, amused smile "The system you have proposed works well, closely resembling Polgrath's original model. Seeing as there are no objections, we should put it into effect" he nods, looking back to the group collectively "A new era of Delving is beginning, ladies and gentlemen. And it begins today" ((Glad to see we've been so productive! Do you guys think we should build a base and start recruiting here in the Fringe, or wait for 4.0?))

((Heh, sorry mate but the guilds been dead for a few months now. BUT! If you read recent replies, you'll find that it might be coming back for 4.0!)) The dwarfs application finds its way to Jonathan. He simply grunts and sends the bird back with a copy of the letter he recently sent out, instead of directly responding.

Nice one mate! I quite like how you made the fire with the tilted and scaled log blocks and the ring of stone. Clever use of mine-imator! Did you make the facial expressions rig yourself or use an existing one? Oh and how did you do the smoke? Was that added using another program?

Jonathan leans against his staff as he waits with Drake to see whom will come to the gathering

An aged human man lets out a soft sigh as he sets down his quill, having finished writing. It had been some years since anything was heard of the Arcane Delvers. To the world, the Arcane Delvers were dead. Yet to this particular man, and all others whom may have been apart of the old guild, they lived on in memory. And now, in this time of great turmoil, there name would surface again. The aged man gives a curt nod to Vuln Shadeleaf, another ex Delver sitting across from him.The ravens would fly. Flyers would be posted and riders would ride forth, all spreading the same message to any Ex delver, mage, adventurer, monster hunter or curious soul. The Arcane Delvers. To some of you, this name means nothing. Something you might of heard mentioned in History tomes. To others, it is a memory. It matters not wether you were apart of this guild once, or not. All you need know is that we were a group of adventurers, mages, fighters. But most of all, learners. The Delvers are gone. Yet they need not stay gone. What I propose, is a rebirth My name is Jonathan Elers. In days long since past, I was a regent of this once mighty guild. My mind is filled with memories of the comradery, adventures and knowledge gained that I experienced in my time at the delvers. Wether yours are too, or you wish for them to be, I would like to call forth a meeting. Let any mage, adventurer, monster hunter or scholar whom was affiliated with the Delvers or wishes to be, journey to my land where we might discuss a potential future for a rebirthed Delvers. My home is in a place called Loopshire. It is just south behind Haelun'or to the east, north of Fanghorn. A table will be set up where we might discuss the matter. I implore that any interested people attend and share their thoughts. Let the Delvers be reborn, like a Phoenix. J. Elers ((Ok! So with 4.0 around the corner, I thought it would be the perfect opportunity for a possible Delver rebirth! But I wanted to hear what you all think, both In character and out. The meeting will be done here, over the forums to make things as easy as possible. Make a post of your character turning up and we'll see where it goes!))

I actually quite like this suggestion. A system where anyone could pick up and learn magic to an extent, see if they like it, try the rp of being a novice Mage etc without any form of restriction. But if they want to progress past parlour tricks style magic, gain both respect and 'power', some form of roleplay check or application would be needed. That's a compromise the way I see it.

My opinion is something of a yes and no regarding this. I do NOT believe the magic system, as it was in the past, should return the way it was. It caused a degree of arrogance amongst mages that was not restricted to IC. I'm sure many will recall that back when magic was tightly locked up, if a new, eager role player made a post on the forums looking for a teacher or book....they got ripped to shreds in the kind of manner that turns people away from the server. It was rather unforgiving of new players simply looking to have fun roleplaying magic. But at the same time, it also weeded out some of the problems experienced in the current magic system. For example, people insta mageing yet having little to no clue on how to roleplay magic. It really grinds my gears when I meet a 400 year old elf character who says in rp they've been practicing magic since before my parents were born (despite me being a Mage of over 10 irl months) and then when they roleplay magic, it is wrong and power gammy. Now obviously the more experienced and knowledgeable mages should be helping educate those newer to magic. But that can only go so far when there are so many backstory mages who don't know what they're doing. Backstory mages (mages who never actually rpd in game to get their magic) should not be allowed in my opinion. Magic should be a wonderful force of creating roleplay. The old magic system ensured it created roleplay (by seeking out a teacher and slowly increasing in skill) but it was also heavily restrictive. The new system (that being no system) was designed to open up magical roleplay, however I feel it has cheapened it. Quantity is replacing quality in many cases of magical roleplay. All mages are master mages, apprentice mages and novices are all but extinct. Neither or the magic systems are perfect. It's my personal belief that their should be some form of check to ensure mages know how to roleplay their magic, but nothing as tight as the old system. Backstory mages shouldn't be allowed and the magical learning process should take a set amount of time. P.S - I would be willing to give up my magic for the sake of a magical purge (which I believe could be beneficial)

Of course,the shape will always be rough and the level of control is still faar from linear. However you can still manipulate it regardless. If you COULDN'T manipulate it to a degree, then as soon as a fireball (as an example) was evoked, the Mage wouldn't be able to do anything with it (such as throw it). So yes, manipulation is possible, just not to a fine degree. A water evocationist can't make a fine ice sword, but a jagged, point bit of ice is well within their means. Apologise if my message was misleading :P

I'm assuming you mean that this is the type of magic you were looking to learn? In that case, the evocations would be your best option, with fire and electrical evocation both existing. Incase you're unfamiliar with magic on the server, evocation basically means creating and manipulating said element (in this case electric and fire) eg create fireball, throw it at someone. Alternatively, if orcish role play is more your thing, there is an elemental branch of shamanism. I'm not much of an expert on that, but basically in shamanism you manipulate existing elements (by communicating with elemental spirits I believe) as apposed to creating your own. As for something that takes a long time to do. Well, given that there's no longer any restrictions on learning magic, you are free to set your own pace of learning. However you will certainly gain more respect if you fully role play out your learning process (as apposed to insta master, which is somewhat power gaming). To put it in perspective, in the old system it would take roughly 3 or 4 months (real life time) of training before you could be competent enough to defeat a single melee soldier. Thats no longer the case, but bravo to you if you actually want it to take a while and are prepared to train :P

Ah, I should of specified that. I've tried more reply options many a time, but the result is the same - no formatting gui

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The title really sums up this whole post. I can post responses and make topics on the forums (like so :P) however NONE of the formatting options are visible to me. They seem to have vanished....all I see is a white box that I type in with plain text. I've noticed however that I can format using the html code equivalents (eg b to make things bold and br is my only way of making gaps). However as you can imagine this is rather annoying and inconvenient. Getting the gui formatting back would be very much appreciated Now, I've tried accessing the forums across different browsers (chrome, firefox......even IE). I tried resetting to default settings on chrome (my normal browser). I've scoured the settings within these forums to no avail and I even tried seeing if it works on a new, sepperate forums account. All with the same result. Assistance here would be greatly appreciated so that my posts can stop looking like poo....<3

Eh, I personally think the MT should stop focusing on skits, news reports and that sort of thing (great as they are!) which are more so aimed at existing community members. Instead I think they should be making trailers and what not. But then, thats just me

Viralurth stands still as he listens before speaking up, his tone calm and serious "All great trees started as but small saplings llir. Ker'lomi is still a young city. In time, it shall flourish. Perhaps with your assistance, living quarters canned improved" With that, he falls silent

Not really sure what this business about being "turned away" is. My Human character is always allowed in. Why? Because they know he's not a trouble maker, won't be using any edgy dark magic, won't hurt Mali etc. Chardoodled, being turned away from the gate definitely isn't you being told your not good enough, it's an rp thing. It makes sense that dwarves won't be let into the city given they are currently at war with the dwarves. Sure, your dwarf MAY not be involved in the war efforts in anyway, and may even support the elves in the war. But they don't know that, and it'd take a lot of proving. Yes, closed gates can be a pain for all. But I honestly don't think it's something that needs to be taken to ooc levels.