DUMA TRANSCRIPTIONS FROM 530 E.S.

[Office of the Lord Speaker 747]

TRANSCRIPT FROM 530 E.S.

XLVII SESSION OF THE KING’S DUMA

FROM  THE OFFICE OF LORD SPEAKER

DUMA OF 9 TOV and YERMEY, 530 E.S

RECORDED AND ANNOTATED BY HER GRACE TATIYANA VAS RUTHERN

 

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IN ATTENDANCE:

VALWYCK, Lord Petyr Baruch representing

VIDAUS, Her Grace Tatiyana vas Ruthern, Lady Handler

KVASZ, Lord  Sigmund Ludovar representing
MALKOVYA, The Honorable Mikhail Colborn

NOVKURSAIN, Lord Siegmund Weiss representing

ZVEZLUND, Lady Esfir Amador, representing

KORAVIA, His Lordship Erik Kortrevich

KOVGRAD, Lady Rezalisa Kovachev representing

VERSKAYA, Her Ladyship Galina Godunov

SVARGRAD, Lord Hadeon Valkonen representing

 

THE GRAND MAER, IOANNA D’ARKENT-KORTREVICH

 

ALDERMAN ALEKSZEJ KORVACZ

ALDERMAN Ser CASPIAN COLBORN

ALDERMAN RATIBOR RADOVANIC

 

 

T. Ruthern: “Spasibo-. We have lots to get through today so let us get started. . .” - “First up! A treaty with our allies of Reinmar.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “Ah, Northern - Brotherhood!”

 

T. Ruthern: “Ea'll open the floor for all to speak for now - if vy all get roudy ea'll change to a moderated debate.” She quipped.

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “I-I could niet read the rest, but I think Reinmar are our Highland allies!” - “I-It is only natural.”

 

G. Godunov: “Political betrothals seem so popular, these days.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “This should go without saying. The House of Barclay built their entire name within Haense - our very own Brotherhood in fact. Our relationship should continue to stay close even after their independence.”

 

R. Kovachev: “I agree with the good Radovanic; I bear respect for our fellow highlanders - but past incidents have led for me to worry some of their lords do not share the same sentiment.”

 

G. Godunov: “There is nay stipulation for a circumstance in which one nation is aggressive towards the other. What happens if there are border conflicts, or raids?”

 

E. Amador: “Ea've once heard ein Barclay refer to ein Lady of House Valkonen as ein Outlander while in Haense. How respective of our culture are they?”

 

S. Weiss: “Eam of ve same notion. Ve Barclays used to be kindred vassals, but they certainly do niet share our values as they may auwnce have done. They even allow owynists in the ranks of their church.”

 

P. Baruch: “I want to open by saying that I believe Reinmar are our natural allies in my humble opinion, and that I'd favour them over any other nation right now. We have fought with them for generations, and we should for many more.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “To vyr point, Lady Kovachev, were Haense and Aaun niet at each others throats before Edmund II was slain?”

 

S. Ludovar: “If King Ivan desires his son to marry a Barclay, then I fully support his decision. The family made its name in Haense it is in this Kingdom's best interest to keep such relations with the family.”

 

L. Palatine: “I think it safe to assume that Reinmaren attacks on our soil break the treaty, Lady Godunov.”

 

P. Baruch:: “They may allow owynists, but it does nay make a difference, considering we've been allied to Urguan before, and they proved better allies than most - they certainly are nay canonists.”

 

R. Kovachev: “Loyalty and faith are things to be tested, meant to endure through strain. The Reinmaren have described our accents and culture has barbaric, and shun their kinsmen for mingling with our own - even threatening disownment.” - “I remain open to shielding and supporting my fellow highlanders, such is my duty as a Northerner. I shall only hope this treaty would encourage more hospitality on the end of the Barclays; trust goes both ways, and my door remains open.”

 

S. Weiss: “Schismatics are worse than pagans, Herzen Baruch. Ve dwarves, ag their foreign religion are simply an aberrancy. Heresy is a poison.” 

 

G. Godunov: “And what of cultural aggression, as Ladies Amador and Kovachev have described? Does this nay constitute aggression?”

 

Ivan VIII: “Nie, it does niet. They are Outlanders to the Reinmaren, as they are to us.”

 

P. Baruch: “I disagree with ye notion Lord Weiss, but I do understand ye saying.”

 

E. Amador: “But to refer to ein Haeseni noble as one, within her own Kongzem? It seems rude, especially from ein Barclay meant to represent their own nation.”

 

G. Godunov: “Many of them were Haeseni less than a generation ago!”

 

Ivan VIII: “And now they are niet.”

 

Ivan VIII: “Half were Savoyards, Aaunishmen.”

 

P. Baruch: “Does anybody take issue with any of the specific articles?”

 

Tatiyana shook her head. “Ea believe this treaty will do well to cure many of the tensions that are seemingly held between our people and the Reinmaren.”

 

P. Baruch: “The articles on the treaty, Lord Marshal.”

 

S. Weiss: “Eam niet so certain they are deserving of a free tax stall. If they so wish to take our minae in this city of which their people openly despise, then they can pay for ve priviledge.”

 

P. Baruch: “I do nay see an issue, if we may have a stall as well.”

 

 Alderman R. Radovanic: “They will niet be evicting any current merchant stalls, da? They will simply get a free one.”

 

S. Weiss: “But - it is niether here or there. A small sum of minae a week shall niet make or break ve treaty itself.”

 

S. Ludovar:  “Can see why vy are against such. Yet it is nothing new that we haven't done prior. Should be no harm to do it for this one.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “I take no issue. I have spoken with Princess Adelfriede, who seeks to make use of this treaty in order to improve contact and relations between our two capitals as well. I only hope the lords and ladies of Haense will welcome her kinswoman with an open mind and heart--a future Grand Princess and Queen-consort.”

 

P. Baruch: “I motion to vote, in that case.”

 

R. Kovachev: “I second that.”

 

S. Weiss: “Seconded.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Then we shall vote!” 

 

T. Ruthern: “Da.”

 

P. Baruch: “I vote aye.”

 

S. Ludovar: “Aye.”

 

M. Colborn: “Aye.”

 

E. Amador: “Aye.”

 

S. Weiss: “Novkursain votes Aye.” 

 

E. Kortrevich: “Koravia votes DA”

 

H. Valkonen: “Aye.”

 

R. Kovachev: “Aye.” 

 

G. Godunov: “Aye.”

 

Alderman C. Colborn: “Aye!”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “I vote da.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Aye.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Spasibo for vyr all quick responses. The Treaty passes.” - “Before the next Bill, His Royal Majesty will make an announcement. . .”

 

Ivan VIII:  “All vy bleeding hearts and clergymen, hear me! The Vicar of Godan has expressed his agreeance with the execution of the devil.” - “His Holiness also denies that the she-devil regrew its hand by his blessing. Speak nie more of this falsehood.”

 

C. Colborn: “Down with the devils! Death to the Shadow!”

 

Ivan VIII: “****!” - “On with the Duma,” 

 

T. Ruthern: “. . .Spasibo vyr Majesty.” - “Ea will call down Lord Davyd Colborn to present the next matter of business.”

 

D. Colborn: “Lords and Ladies, at the behest of the Koeng and Koenas I come forward with a treaty between our fair Kongzem and Celianor.” 

 

P. Baruch: “A treaty with the elves?”

 

D. Colborn: “I seek your council on the length of the treaty.” - “Last this treaty was not much dissimilar. I am certain you are all aware of the past one. But I have added a clause to take action against the shadow, together.” 

D. Colborn: “Indeed, the Koeng and Koenas sent me to renew the very one we had last.”

 

S. Ludovar:  “I find it intriguing to consider an alliance with the Elves. However, if the King wishes to form an alliance with Celia'nor, I see no objections to such a decision.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Spasibo Lord Davyd. . .We'll start with an open floor once again.” She waved a hand for all those seated to freely speak.

 

E. Kortrevich: “I find it interesting how we were at war with Celian'or niet to long ago and now we are offering them a Defensive Pact. . .  However, as the Lord Weiss stated if this is the will of the Koeng then it is the will of the Kongzem.”

 

S. Weiss: “These people slew Haensemen during ve war. Mea family, too.” - “Eam niet so eager to invite those who draw steel against mea countrymen ag kin to our dinner table.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “T-The point of Duma is to debate and offer advice to the King, niet to suck up to him.”

 

L. Palatine: “What about it intrigues vy, Lord Ludovar?” - “Vy are here to speak the will of the Kongzem, as my nephew says.”

 

C. Colborn: “Although I know you hold your opinions on elves, you ought know that together in an alliance we pose a stronger defence to those who would harm us  its usefullness is certainly obvious and If the koeng believes it to be a fine idea then who are we to judge.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Well-said, Alderman.”

 

G. Godunov: “Ea do nay see what good this treaty affords us, beyond the aid of their soldiers in cleansing the dark.” - “And yam nay certain that's really a numbers game.”

 

C. Colborn: “You would rather us throw our own men alone with no further back up into these lairs?”

 

S. Ludovar:  “It intrigues me the same as others have stated. It was not long ago they were willing to join on the side of Veletz. Yet things move on and so I have no issues with the pact.”

 

P. Baruch: “I do nay agree to signing another pact with the elves, they have served their purposed in ridding the realm of a common cause, being Veletz. Veletz has been wiped from the face of the continent, so we can go our own ways now.” - “Elf and man do nay go together. Nor does our faith.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “The main article to point out in this treaty is on the matter of Darkspawn, as Celian'or have seemed to have efficient ways in dealing with them.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “What does the… The article about mines say?”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Just because the war is done, does nen mean we should so hastily forget those who were glad to slay the people of this kingdom so readily, in the name of anathema and murderers.” - “To ask to be allowed access steel from the lands they formerly defended. . .Is curious.”

 

R. Kovachev: “. . I was but an infant, when my family had pledged their loyalty to Haense and went through their penance. While I contributed little to the war, I still bear shame and guilt for the actions of my ancestors - the blood spilled of the people I look to as brother and sisters.” - “Elves are granted longer years that we, those who partook in the war persist - and have taken no steps of penance.” - “I would urge they seek it, if we're to sign a treaty.”

 

Ivan VIII: “They pay, and we've enough steel pried from the hands of dead Veletzmen.” 

 

G. Godunov: “What have they done to repair the bridges they burned, during that war? Ask for our soldiers and our mines?”

 

P. Baruch: “I will nay forget, but there's too greater difference between us and them for us to be considered strong allies. We have different faith, cultures, and people. This alliance will nay be long-standing, when I believe we should be striving for alliances that will stand the test of time.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “I do niet think they deserve our defense should any wish to attack them other than the common effort of slaying Darkspawn.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Forgive me, my King--I do not think steel, taken from dead men or a mine, shall ever repay GOD's greatest gift to us--life.”

 

S. Ludovar: “But how can we endeavor to secure long-lasting alliances if we refrain from establishing new ones to assess their strength?”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “D-Does every alliance need to stand forever? Is there something wrong with temporary ones while we share goals, and separating when niet?”

 

P. Baruch: “We can establish new ones with people like our own, with mutual interests.”

 

E. Amador: “Why should we nae move for trust n' penance before putting all this on paper? Celia'nor seems to have more from this treaty than Haense.”

 

Io. Kortrevich: “Ai…why not simply a pact to do battle with the minions of the Shadow?”

 

E. Amador: “Exactly.” 

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Common-cause without anything more binding.”

 

G. Godunov: “Ea agree.”

 

S. Ludovar: “Indeed, forming alliances with those who share our values and interests can be beneficial. However, diversity in our alliances can also bring valuable perspectives and opportunities for collaboration that we may not find among our own.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Ai…thank you for the lesson, Don Ludovar.”

 

E. Amador: “Celia'nor has nae done much to collaborate with us.”

 

Ivan VIII: “We have few allies beyond my father's Covenant.”

 

S. Weiss: “We do niet need their help, ag they will surely find another den of thieves to corral with should we reject this proposal.” 

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Mmm.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “We threatened to crush them to dust like we did to Veletz, didn't we?”

 

R. Kovachev: “I would be more inclined to allying with the star elves if they would open themselves to the wisdom of the Holy Church; show remorse for their acts in war upon us - and grant us more assurance of their integrity.”

 

E. Amador: “The Bishop brings up a point though….”

 

T. Ruthern: “Herzen Weiss ea'll ask vy to niet step upon a document which displays the Kingdom's crest.” 

 

S. Ludovar: “I mean it is evident that they will rely on us more than we on them, and that's undeniably true. However, as I mentioned earlier in this discussion, if the King perceives value in this alliance, then I can only trust his and those in leadership's judgment.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “The Elves of Celian'or are too unreliable and too untrustworthy. That is clear from the many voices against this decree.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich:“But that is not the point of this body, Don Ludovar. As Alderman Radovanic stated, we're here to speak on behalf of the kingdom--not just to please the King, as much as we might desire to.” - “Our opinions are what bring us to this chamber.”

 

S. Weiss:  “Ve koeng's crest is ve only dobry thing about the parchment that it was condemned to lie upon.” He took a moment to lean down, and tear off the crest of Haense from the paper to spare it. He gently brushed it off, and placed it upon his lap.

 

E. Amador: “Haense does nae stand to gain much from this aside from ein ally we seldom trust. What happens if they abandon us like they did Veletz?”

 

G. Godunov: “We do nay need or want them as allies nearly as much as they need us. Are we willing to take the payment of…” - “fifty mina per week, in exchange?”

 

R. Kovachev: “I do not think it wise to completely shun the notion of an alliance. I believe wounds can be healed, and bridges repaired. A signature on a treaty is not how that is done.” - “I would motion for an article to be added, where those of their military who would work with us might be guided through penance to absolve them of their sins in war.” - “If they refuse, or are insulted, then the deceit is made known - and the treaty is spoiled.”

 

C. Colborn: “I must be excused from the duma your majesty.”

 

Ivan VIII: “As vy wish.”

 

G. Godunov: “Ea agree, Lady Kovachev. They must prove their change of heart is genuine and permanent.”

 

E. Amador: “Da. They should earn our trust and prove that this alliance will be beneficial and healing to both parties.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “As I suggested, better we begin with an agreement to face the darkspawn plaguing Aevos together--then proceed with a fuller alliance once their true intent on friendship is shown through action.” - “I commend Don Colborn's efforts in penning this, regardless.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “Perhaps a Non Aggression Pact and the mutual promise of Darkspawn slaying.”

 

S. Ludovar: “Ai, as I've previously emphasized, it's imperative for us to explore alliances beyond the Covenant. I firmly believe that doing so is essential in establishing enduring partnerships for the future.” - “Think that is a  reasonable motion.”

 

Nataliya of Ghaestenwald: “If an article were to be added stipulating their penance, what would the Duma advise?”

 

E. Amador: “Ea like Lord Kortrevich's thinking.” 

 

M. Colborn: “Ea support Lord Kortrevich's proposal.”

 

P. Baruch: “I concur with Lord Kortrevich too.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Ai, I likewise support Don Erik's notion.”

 

P. Baruch: “With that in mind, I call for a motion to vote, while suggesting a nonaggression pact be written in the near future.”

 

R. Kovachev: “I agree with these notions of non-aggression; perhaps an additional document could be written up for service of penance, done with the involvement of His Holiness?”

 

E. Kortrevich: “I second the Lord Baruch's notion.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Rather than a motion to vote, perhaps a motion to table the bill for further review and collaboration with members of the Duma?”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Ai, Lady Handler.”

 

G. Godunov: “Aye.”

 

R. Kovachev: “Aye.”

 

Ivan VIII: “The Koenas has asked vy a question.”

 

G. Godunov: “Ea believe a full treaty, even with a clause about penance, is too hasty.”

 

E. Amador: “Ea think penance should involve discussion with His Holiness, as Lady Kovachev advised.”

 

M. Colborn: “Ea'm personally too wary specifically about the defensive alliance clause.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “Celia'nor are niet Canonist, are they?”

 

G. Godunov: “They are elven pagans.”

 

R. Kovachev: “If an article on penance would be added. .” - “Perhaps notable soldiers in their ranks in the war can be identified, and brought to Haense; there is the matter of the Necromancer's Port to the north, their integrity could be tested in pursuits there.” - “But such is only my meagre suggestion, I'm sure His Holiness would be wiser in guiding them.”

 

L. Palatine: “This is a secular affair, Lady Amador. His Holiness has nie hand in our policy.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “And with this shown document shelved, we will have time to sort the details of that penance properly.”

 

M. Colborn: “Ea agree with the Lord Palatine.”

 

P. Baruch: “Let's vote, aye.”

 

E. Amador: “Even if this is a secular affair, the war largely involved the Church and Canondom. Ea think it'd at least be worth seeking advice from the church on penance.”

 

S. Ludovar: “Personally, after considering recent suggestions, I am supportive for the non-aggression pact motion. It serves as a stepping stone towards establishing a solid foundation for a potential alliance.”

 

G. Godunov: “Are we voting on the treaty itself, or on tabling it for future discussion?”

 

E. Kortrevich: “I believe we are voting on tabling it for further edits.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Ai.”

 

S. Ludovar: “Ai.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “Let the transcripts show what we specifically want added and removed, though.”

 

S. Ludovar: “Though I believe a motion was for a vote. So, just to be sure, I motion to table it for further edits.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “Da, tabling.”

 

S. Weiss: “Ve dogs that killed vyr countrymen still live, ag will continue to dictate Celianor's policy for centuries to come. We do niet need Celianor. Nie, on all counts.”

 

T. Ruthern: “All those in favor of tabling the treaty for further work and review say 'da'.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Nie.”

 

R. Kovachev: “Da.”

 

G. Godunov: “Aye.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Da.”

 

S. Ludovar: “Aye.”

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “Da.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “Da.”

 

E. Amador: “Da.”

 

H. Valkonen: “Da.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “Da”

 

P. Baruch: “Nay.”

 

S. Weiss: “NIE!” 

 

M. Colborn: “Ja.”

 

T. Ruthern: “By vote of majority the treaty will be tabled for further review.” -  “Now. . .The Herzen Baruch will present his own bill.” 

 

D. Colborn: “Skrali everyone.” - “I'll speak to the Koeng, Koenas and Palatine on the matter before approaching you all about any revisions.” 

 

P. Baruch: “If ye saw my letter I briefly explained my issue with the presence of degenerates in our kingdom, that being those who are orcs, ologs, goblins, and those ill-dressed. I stated that our Kingdom is of Canon, and to not be defiled by beasts, so do not let them continue to batter our city's principles, and faith. I know that all of ye have experienced an olog barging into the city, and whaling until our people retreated inside, and children to forced to see toga-wearing elves parading around the city. It is immoral, and degenerate.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “I-I've rejected worse than togas at the gates.”

 

P. Baruch: “I understand that there may be more things ye deem degenerate, so I have added it on the bill to the law, so it can continue to be amended.” - “That is all,” he remarked, sliding back into his seat.

 

T. Ruthern: “The floor will now be open for unmoderated debate. . .Try to avoid any slurs during this.” 

 

G. Godunov: “Ea believe clarification must be provided on what is considered excessive skin. Ea fully support the rest of the bill, but ea have nay desire to be looked at by strangers - members of the Brotherhood - nor do ea believe they should have the right to police what people wear, within reason. How do you intend ''immodest'' to be defined? Showing the legs? Showing the torso? The shoulders?”

 

P. Baruch: “I believe the Brotherhood may deem what is immoral for our children to see,” he replied.

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “You should niet have more skin than clothes visible, at least.”

 

E. Amador: “What happens when the Brotherhood has differing opinions?”

 

G. Godunov: “Ea believe that matter should lie with the Church, nay the military.”

 

T. Ruthern: “The church does nie police our streets, Herzenas.”

 

G. Godunov: “The Brotherhood are law enforcement, they can nay be expected to be authorities on virtue. Ea would expect the Brotherhood to enforce rules, but ea could nay trust them to write them.”

 

P. Baruch: “The church does nay- aye. And to resolve bickering between our Brotherhood, only officers may deem those ill-modest.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “If officers are arguing, then the Lord Marshal shall set them straight.”

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “Y believe this bill jest unreasonable. The Brotherhood jest already allowed to escort those who cause trouble out of the city. Moy have allies whom have the kin of Kurg amongst their ranks, such a bill would only mean to anger them, e possible anger foes moy wish niet to.” - “E as for clothing, could W Brotherhood niet suggest people covering up because of W Cold? Y believe this jest targeted for ulterior motives beyond degrency, more directed at race.”

 

Cesar Alejandro Peter Komnenos Raises his cane in the air, hoping he would be allowed to speak.

 

T. Ruthern: “Nie outside voices for now, firr.”

 

S. Weiss: “Ai.” - “Ologs are often a problem. Auwn walked into Valdev ag tried to eat a child. Ea helped fend it off meaself, along with mea kin of Weiss as ve Colborns. Orcs are usually ordak. Ea'd very muich like for them to wear clothes, though.”

 

P. Baruch: “So long as the ill-modest person in question dresses, they may be allowed back into the public from their homes.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “I would also ask what the exception will be for the sizeable, fur-covered orc that is companion to our Grand Prince. If this bill is passed, will Torugyr be clothed in man's doublet and pants?”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “I do niet think so. I've rejected people at the gates, only to see them enter the city as soon as I-I left the gates.”

 

C. Colborn: “The Prince has expressed interest in arming Torugr.”

 

P. Baruch: “It is nay like they will be hung for dressing ill-modestly, or banished forever. They will just be asked to show less skin, and adhere to our country's faith and virtue.”

 

R. Kovachev: “. . What of the hairy, blue olog that follows the Hauchprinzen around?”

 

E. Kortrevich: “There should always be room for pardons and exceptions. Why should we outright ban an entire race when niet all of them are as degenerate as the Orcs of Krugmar?”

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “Y do niet even believe Torugyr would be allowed within Haense with this bill, at least by its language. Dubbing an entire race as undesirable jest quite the slippery slope.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “I-If you all want one to stay, you should petition the King for his pardon, da?”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “And you would separate the King's son from his most stalwart defender,” She'd nod, lips worrying.

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “I think the law is dobry.”

 

P. Baruch: “I thought about adding to the bill that the crown may pardon those degenerate, and hand out exemptions. But there does nay need to be a law for that, the crown may exempt whoever they will, regardless of law. It is redundant.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “So we are to petition every individual in Duma now?”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “Da.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “That is a waste of time.”

 

E. Amador: “Ea've met many degenerates who are nae uruk. Ea donnae think being undesirable is limited solely to orcs.”

 

G. Godunov: “Ea believe going about pardoning every nay awful foreigner is a waste of the Crown's time.”

 

L. Palatine: “Vy have a long list of beastly friends, Lord Kortrevich?”

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “If vy wish to ban Krugmar, then vy might as well say such, as Y have heard some murmurs about.” -  “As Lord Kortrevich says, this jest repetative, the Brotherhood already has the power to do this.”

 

Cesar Alejandro Peter Komnenos: “Frankly my lords and ladies, this sounds more like oppression, and a law made by one man, who is scared of abit of flesh and hate other cultures.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Brotherhood remove him!” She'd point to Cesar. “Ea told vy nie outside voices, Firr.”

 

E. Kortrevich:“I do niet have any list of beastly friends, Vyr Excellency, but I am niet blind to understand that the actions of the majority do niet speak for the minority.”

 

P. Baruch: “The bill does nay say anything about banning Krugmar, Alderman.” - “If ye wish I may read it to ye?” - “The crown may hand out exemptions. The law does nay need to give the crown ability to do so, they are the crown.”

 

C. Colborn: “Torugr was gifted to the prince by his grandmother I believe.”

 

E. Amador: “Who else is in Krugmar beside ve uruks?”

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “Y have heard wishes of sparking a war during the last Duma session. Y would like such to be presented before W Royal Duma, as Y believe such has been an influence on various bills. These whispers were directed to Orcs, Y might add.”

 

S. Weiss: “Elves ag pagans.” - “Spirit-dancers, Iblees worshippers… salesmen. Ve worst ilk of them all.”

 

G. Godunov: “Someone was just removed for speaking, and you ask-.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Spasibo. . .” She turned back to the debating members. “One more word from the stands and vy will leave as well.”

 

L. Palatine: “There is nie talk of war with Krug'mar, Alderman. 'less vy wish to begin one.”

 

E. Amador: “They are nae just in Krugmar too,” - “Shall we ban everyone outside of the Canondom?”

 

S. Weiss: “If they consider leaves as clothing, da.”

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “Perhaps niet publicly, nie, but Y had heard it been murmured by members of the Brotherhood in W last Duma. At least a war with Orcs. Y could be wrong on this, Lord Palantine, if so, Y retract my statement.”

 

P. Baruch: “I am thinking of our people, from noble peers, to our common people. They have all been hindered by the orc degeneracy, more than they have nay. Expel them all, and we will never have to put up with these troubles again. Our faith may continue to be unspoiled.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “I do niet think this is something that needs to be put into law. The Brotherhood of Saint Karl should be able to train their initiates what is or is niet a threat to our security and virtues through in-house edicts. I am niet in disagreement that many Ologs and Goblins are degenerates but I do niet believe it has a place in our Haural Caezk.”

 

R. Kovachev: “Perhaps this bill might be reworded to - instead of the bull ban of orcish folk - have them be held to a higher standard for the strength of their kind?” - “Granted less room for slip ups, and higher punishments should they hurt someone.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “I-I think those coming to Haense near-naked are asking for frostbite; the fact that- they come regardless, says that they have ulterior motives than just cultural wear.”

 

G. Godunov: “Ea agree with Lord Kortrevich.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “It should be put to law!”

 

P. Baruch: “The orcs would do the same if humans barged into their nation every other Saint's day, and demanded Free bread, or Mi Latz-whatever.”

 

G. Godunov: “This is devolving into outright racism.” - “Ea motion we put it to a vote and be done with it.”

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “HEAR HEAR!”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “And, if banishment is required, such is already capable of being dictated by the Crown and my own office. It is matter of these distasteful individuals being reported to the proper officials.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “I kicked out someone for degeneracy, and they were just allowed in regardless after I left my post.”

 

P. Baruch: “That does nay do, Lord Kortrevich. A degenerate may be kicked out by one, then let in by another - the law dictates in absolutes. We can nay do with half measures.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “As I have discovered, many conflicts only end up being delivered to our city's clinic. And nen to anyone in leadership.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “Then that individual was poorly trained, Lord Baruch.”

 

R. Kovachev: “We speak of banning, but then talk of pardoning the 'good ones'. This is inefficient. Hold them to higher standards; make it known if they cause harm, there is no wiggle room to evade justice.”

 

G. Godunov: “Ea agree consistency would be valuable but ea think that can be found within the Brotherhood. It does nay require the involvement of permanent law.”

 

P. Baruch: “Can ye trust every Brother to be wise, and trained properly? They may have a maddened mind?”

 

E. Kortrevich: “Is that niet the duty of our Officers?”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “Or they were following their conscience, for there is nie law written for them to follow, Lord Kortrevich.”

 

G. Godunov: “It sounds like your issue is with the Brotherhood, Lord Baruch.”

 

C. Colborn: “Our brothers are off sound mind and sounder heart.”

 

P. Baruch: “There is such thing as human-error, nay? Or is every man, and woman perfect?” -  “Law does nay allow for human-error.”

 

R. Kovachev: “I motion to a moderated debate, or a vote - there is too much messy discussion.”

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “Then there jest nie need for this bill if such jest the case, Aldermann Colborn.” He said to his right, with a bow of his head.

 

C. Colborn: “If those who do not follow our laws appear they shall be removed any how.”

 

G. Godunov: “Ea already motioned for a vote.” -  “Ea think it is high time we moved on.”

 

R. Kovachev: “My point proven.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “I expect them to detect what is and is niet a threat to our security and virtues, as I also expect correction if errors are made.”

 

S. Ludovar: “I second that.” 

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “I-I've a question.”

 

M. Colborn: “Ea third that.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Cease. We will move to a moderated debate where final words may be shared and then a vote taken.”

 

E. Kortrevich:“I say we let the Alderman ask his question.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Da, Alderman Radovanic.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “Do guardsmen simply have the right to remove any person from the city, then?”

 

T. Ruthern: “The Lord marshal may answer vyr question.” 

 

C. Colborn:  “Guardsmen must react in some of the most bizzare circumstance, I believe all my brothers and sisters are off sound enough judgement to make that call, If we see it neccessary, those who pose risk or danger to our people shall be removed simply put.”

 

L. Palatine: “We are niet a land of savages, Lord Marshal. Even men of the brotherhood must cite our laws in justification.”

 

P. Baruch: “Hear.”

 

C. Colborn: “Which require judgement on their part Lord Palatine, as far as I was aware we are allowed to remove those from the city if they break our laws.”

 

L. Palatine: “Of course.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “There's nie law to kick out degenerates then.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Da, Lord Baruch.”

 

Nataliya of Ghaestenwald “It is a moderated debate, Alderman.”

 

P. Baruch: “I concur with what Ratibor said, even if out of line. Laws guide us, but there is nay law for being degenerate.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Lady Godunov.”

 

G. Godunov: “There may nay be a law against degenerates in itself, but there are laws against degenerate behavior, which we must trust the Brotherhood to enforce as they see fit, which may include removal of the perpetrators. Adding new legislature is redundant.”

 

T. Ruthern: “The Lady Kovachev may speak followed by Lord Baruch after.”

 

R. Kovachev: “I should like to agree with Lady Godunov, but would offer some suggestions for this bill. If adequate clothing is a concern for integrity of our culture, I might suggest the Royal Court express what might be permitted while on palace grounds - than adding restrictions to the whole city.” - “In addition to the matter of orcs and goblins. . A full on ban is not something I support; I've seen their kind exist in the city with no trouble.” - “If there is a concern of their threat of strength, I'd suggest for Lord Baruch to rewrite his bill to have it express little patience for any aggression or tomfoolery of their ilk in the city.”

 

P. Baruch: “Firstly, I am willing to define ill-modesty, if it pleases the duma hall. If we are to nay define Orcs as degenerate too, I would simply incline myself to abolish them in the law directly.” - “This is because by banning them directly, we may stop them from entering our borders, and city directly this way, and stop their degenerate behaviours.” ... “If we allow them in, and they act degenerate as I am sure they will, the Brotherhood then has a seven to ten foot beast inside our walls, which may very well end up in the death of a haeseni man, or woman, of Canon faith. These beasts are more inclined to savagery, than diplomacy, hence my motion to ban them completely.” - “Why give them the chance to bludgeon our people? Do nay let them in at all.”

 

T. Ruthern:“Spasibo Herzen Baruch. . .Royal Alderman Ratibor now.”

 

S. Weiss: “Mea hand was raised before them.” He said, with his palm still lofted in the air.

 

T. Ruthern: “And so vy will be next, Herzen Weiss.”

 

S. Weiss: “..Da.” He then lowered it.

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “C-Can you cite which laws we could use Lady Godunov? I-I also don't understand what the palace rules would do. Most of Haense does niet live in Castle Lesanov.”

 

T. Ruthern: “After Herzen Weiss and Royal Alderman Korvacz we will move to vote.”

 

G. Godunov: “Firstly, ea do nay know why you ask eam this, of all people. Yam far from an expert in Haeseni law, and while yam a scholar of fashion, there has never been a strict set of rules for Haeseni dress, only guidelines and recommendations. Furthermore,” - “While ea respect Lord Baruch for putting his suggestion forward, ea believe it is entirely foolish to allow the racist, discriminatory opinions of one boy - a child - to become law. If the Brotherhood judges a visitor to be dangerous, they have the right to prevent him from entering. If they make a mistake, they must deal with the consequences. Barring an entire race will make a pointless enemy of Krugmar, and will likely only encourage them to cause more conflict in outrage.” 

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “Er… You are the one who said the guardsmen could use other laws. I want to know what other laws, since you're r-rejecting them right now.”

 

G. Godunov: “Allowing this law to pass would set a dangerous precedent for other laws of its type, which would breed hostility, and do very little to actually aid us.” (to Ratbor) “You speak out of turn again. But ea believe that is a question for the Brotherhood. Ea can nay and would nay claim to have a full understanding of these things.”

 

T. Ruthern: “It is the Herzen Weiss now.”

 

S. Weiss: “Ea think Herzen Baruch is on ve right track. Degeneracy is real, and should be defined. It is an immoral plague upon our kongzem. Ea simply think it must be ammended to define what is ill-dressed and immodest, with the removal of ve additions directly naming the Orks ag their kin.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “If you do niet know, then why pretend to?”

 

T. Ruthern: “Alderman Radovanic-! One more out of turn comments and vy will be removed.”

 

T. Ruthern: “And lastly, Royal Alderman Korvacz!”

 

Ivan VIII: “The first law of the Haurul states nie man may be punished for a crime niet within it. The prikaz law of times past are niet grounds for exile. Vy must define this degeneracy and enshrine it in law, or else it canniet be acted upon.”

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “While Y understand the wish to put this into law, Y wish to answer Aldermann Radovanic's question.” - “Law of Crime, VIII Let he who harms another outside of battle be guilty of Assault. Law of Crime, XVIII Let he who flaunts the teachings of the Church of the Canon be guilty of Heresy, and let he who undermines or challenges these teachings be guilty of Sacrilege.” - “Plus various other laws which could be cited in the case of degrency, should we should so apply it to those from outside our lands, should niet be founded on race. Y will niet vote in a law solely based on W racism.” - “To that degree, if the Bill jest to be passed, Y wish for the bill to cite what laws may be applied to all foreign citizens, niet on the foundation of race. Be that degrency in the act of indeceny, or laws cited within the Law of Crime. To base such on race jest foolish, e limits W potential for W law. Moy have the capacity to create a proper bill to prevent foreign miscreants from harming citizens of Haense, but it should niet be filed against just the Orcs, Ologs e otherwise. Moy have written the laws already, why add race to such? For if an Orc, an Elf, a Man harms a citizen, he should be treated as a criminal. There z many of various races who act with civility, and many who do niet.” - “Y affirm this, w Law should niet be founded on race. For all Races have W Capacity for evil. Cite indecency as it's own law, E create a bill upon the laws of Foreign Citizens, niet based on races.” - “That jest all, Y rest Y case.”

 

T. Ruthern: “. . .And now to vote.” 

 

T. Ruthern: “Da.”

 

P. Baruch: “Aye.”

 

T. Ruthern: “Da.”

 

M. Colborn: “Nay”

 

E. Amador: “Nae.”

 

S. Weiss: “Novkursain votes nie - but please do revise it. Ea believe vy to be on ve right track.” 

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “We canniet just use any law for any purpose- they are niet anything goes, whatever fits.”

 

E. Kortrevich: “Koravia votes NIE. The Brotherhood can do enough through our current Haural Caezk.”

 

H. Valkonen: “Nie.”

 

R. Kovachev: “Nay. It should be revised.”

 

G. Godunov: “Nay.”

 

Alderman C. Colborn: “Nay, until its revised.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “Da.”

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “Y vote Niet. Let it be revised with W recommendations of W Duma. Remove Race e it can be considered.”

 

P. Baruch: “The next time a ten foot olog stomps into the city, and demands something of ye - I will nay be risking my life.”

 

C. Colborn: “Well if u were interested let me know for sure.”

 

T. Ruthern: “NEXT TIME SOMEONE SPEAKS WHILE WE ARE IN A VOTE VYR VOTE WILL BE REMOVED!”

 

R. Kovachev: “Revise the bill, Lord Baruch; know that I'd not let a wounded ego keep me from defending my brothers and sisters.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “Nen. A revision is necessary, that is nen based on the individual's race.” 

 

T. Ruthern: “Kovachev vote is removed. . .That being said the bill still does niet pass.” -  “Shall we continue on or is a break needed?” - “A break as in the ending of the session.” She'd clarify.

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “A break, ai. And I ask to be granted leave, there is a pressing city matter I must attend to.”

 

G. Godunov: “Yam in favor of a break.”

 

P. Baruch: “Let us continue.”

 

E. Amador: “Ein break, please.”

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “Da, allow a break.”

 

Grand Maer I. Kortrevich: “I beg many pardons,” She'd add, though her visage was plainly weary.

 

Alderman A. Korvacz: “Da.”

 

P. Baruch: “Aye, then.”

 

Alderman R. Radovanic: “Why break? It's niet as if- Is there niet still many bills?”

 

E. Kortrevich: “I agree in ending the sesion.”

 

E. Amador: “We've been here two saint's hours already!”

 

T. Ruthern:  “Ordak. . .Spasibo for all of vyr attention and participation.” -  “This Session of His Majesties Royal Duma is hereby ended.”

 

Session adjourned.

 

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