[✗] [Naz Amendment] Lord's Blessing

[ellielove15 547]

 

Old:

Redlines:

- Requires [3] Naztherak, all of which must be at least tier [3].
- Cursed children will always inherit traits that are reflective of the Lord of the Naztherak who submerged their grimoire.
- Requires OOC consent to perform.
- It takes [4] OOC days for the striith to return from the High Hells.
- Cursed Childern created with this ritual will have a corrupted soul, meaning that they cannot practice holy magics.
- Becoming a Cursed Child is permanent.
- Cursed Children follow all redlines of the Blessed One’s lore piece.

 

New:

Redlines:

- Requires [3] Naztherak, all of which must be at least tier [3].
- Cursed children will always inherit traits that are reflective of the Lord of the Naztherak who submerged their grimoire.
- Requires OOC consent to perform.
- It takes [4] OOC days for the striith to return from the High Hells.

- Cursed Childern created with this ritual will have a corrupted soul, meaning that they cannot practice Paladinism. They can practice all other deific magics. [Templarism, Druidism, Shamanism, Seers, etc.]
- Becoming a Cursed Child is permanent.
- Cursed Children follow all redlines of the Blessed One’s lore piece.

 

Reasoning:

I've noted this issue with what the definition of 'holy magics' is with plenty of Story team folks, only to have conflicting answers as to what sort of magics a Blessed Child of Ixris that is made from this ritual can perform. Due to the very vague wording within the ritual lore that seems to contradict  the feat lore itself without adding sufficient clarity, I propose that the 'unable to perform holy magics' line be changed so that the information for what magics a persona with this feat can do can be simplified and made much more clear. If there should be a difference in magical access between those made by ritual and those made from birth, it should be clarified in the lore with much more accuracy and clarity than how it is made now within the Naztherak ritual lore as it stands. 

Edited April 29, 2024 by ellielove15
Clarifying what I wish to do with the amendment

[TheNerdocalypse 307]

I suggest going with an edited redline where it matches the redline in the feat, where it just says they can't be paladins.

[Traveller 2718]

i think its kind of weird to try to amend a magic to fit ur own ooc wants for ur persona and u alone, unless i am misunderstanding this amendment, but i think it makes plenty of sense if ur cursed by demon-sorcerers with demonic curse that makes u a devil i Think you Should be locked out of holy magicks

[ellielove15 547]

2 minutes ago, TheNerdocalypse said:

I suggest going with an edited redline where it matches the redline in the feat, where it just says they can't be paladins.

 

That's pretty much my intent by removing that line. If it's changed to 'They have a corrupted soul and therefore cannot be a paladin, but can do these other magics,' that's also fine. I'm just trying to make sure the feat lore and the ritual lore match up, or at least be clarified. 

[sprtn 3341]

THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!

[Mescaffier 6197]

I think it's less of a 'cursed children cannot become holy' and moreso a 'Xan is racist'

[ellielove15 547]

2 minutes ago, TreeSmoothie said:

I think it's less of a 'cursed children cannot become holy' and moreso a 'Xan is racist'

That's what I've been told, but I've had other folks say otherwise. Originally I wanted the line to be removed and have the feat lore alone explain which magics you can do, but having it mirror the lore instead is better. 

4 minutes ago, Greehn said:

THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!

Edited the proposal to make more clear what I wanna do, which is have the ritual lore be clarified and mirror what the feat lore says, not remove a drawback of becoming a cursed child through the ritual. 

10 minutes ago, Traveller said:

i think its kind of weird to try to amend a magic to fit ur own ooc wants for ur persona and u alone, unless i am misunderstanding this amendment, but i think it makes plenty of sense if ur cursed by demon-sorcerers with demonic curse that makes u a devil i Think you Should be locked out of holy magicks

Edited the proposal to make more clear what I wanna do with this, which is to have the ritual lore match the feat lore and be clarified, rather than to remove the limitations of being a cursed child. 

[sprtn 3341]

5 minutes ago, ellielove15 said:

Edited the proposal to make more clear what I wanna do, which is have the ritual lore be clarified and mirror what the feat lore says, not remove a drawback of becoming a cursed child through the ritual. 

 

24 minutes ago, ellielove15 said:

- Cursed Childern created with this ritual will have a corrupted soul, meaning that they cannot practice Paladinism. They can practice all other deific magics. [Templarism, Druidism, Shamanism, Seers, etc.]

THIS IS NOT A FIX! YOU ARE REMOVING THE DRAWBACK OF BECOMING A CURSED CHILD!

[DISCOLIQUID 2731]

Seems fine as is, half the cursed child RP fun is wuh woh soul cursed!

[ellielove15 547]

1 minute ago, Greehn said:

 

THIS IS NOT A FIX! YOU ARE REMOVING THE DRAWBACK OF BECOMING A CURSED CHILD!

 

No I'm not. This is mirroring exactly what the Blessed Children of Ixris feat lore says, which is the main deific magic that is unable to be made is paladinism. Everything else is fair game, with the rules that are currently written down. 

 

 

[Tav 4339]

A good clarification edit. Would be better to refer to the Feat Lore instead of the Ritual Spell as a whole, but since it's already covered below Lord's Blessing, it should mimic what is there originally in the actual page. 

Also, idk what everyone else is talking about saying this is changing Cursed Children .. they've only been barred from Paladinism and Paladinism only, lol. I recommend probably changing the title to Naz Clarification as opposed to Naz Amendment, since that's what probably led people to assume you changed the actual lore.

[ellielove15 547]

1 minute ago, Tav said:

A good clarification edit. Would be better to refer to the Feat Lore instead of the Ritual Spell as a whole, but since it's already covered below Lord's Blessing, it should mimic what is there originally in the actual lore. 

Thank you! That was what I originally put, removing the line entirely and letting the feat lore explain it. I decided to mirror the feat lore instead to make it more clear that I'm not trying to remove the drawbacks of the blessed children.

[sprtn 3341]

24 minutes ago, ellielove15 said:

No I'm not. This is mirroring exactly what the Blessed Children of Ixris feat lore says, which is the main deific magic that is unable to be made is paladinism. Everything else is fair game, with the rules that are currently written down. 

 

 

WHOOPS. THAT IS CONFUSING! SORRY ABOUT THAT!

[ellielove15 547]

4 minutes ago, Greehn said:

WHOOPS. THAT IS CONFUSING! SORRY ABOUT THAT!

 

I totally get it! That's why I wanted to make the amendment in the first place. No hard feelings! :)

[Kudos 188]

2 hours ago, Traveller said:

i think its kind of weird to try to amend a magic to fit ur own ooc wants for ur persona and u alone, unless i am misunderstanding this amendment, but i think it makes plenty of sense if ur cursed by demon-sorcerers with demonic curse that makes u a devil i Think you Should be locked out of holy magicks

on that note, there are already Shaman Cursed Children.  I don't know if there are druid ones, nor templars—but all other deific magics seem right in their alley. Seers and Heralds.  Locking them out of deific magic just seems kind of bland.

I know this has been addressed though, matching their compatibility to their lore pieces, but wanted to point it out!