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just for you i'd do it

^bestie pookie kins

pops ur eyeball like ggrape

WATER FLOWING UNDER GROUND

INTO THE BLUE AGAIN

(AFTER THE SILENT WATER)

under the rocks and stones

THERE IS WATER UNDER GROUND

Genderless eunuchs that can only survive through hyper-violence. If they feel any remotely romantic emotion, they instantly explode and die forever and the Over-Soul may never again play one.

Also I didn't know that's what Traveller meant by cannibalism, yeah that's a monstrously bad idea. It's literally a group eating itself alive. It works in Vampire the Masquerade because you're not doing it against your own niche group, a cool idea in practice but not for Lotc. 

It sounds like there's good hope for the CA then in the future, maybe I'll take a crack at it once I get this adderall prescription 

Coffins fucking sucked genuinely I think it is the worst mechanic ever introduced to the server 

Cannibalism was better but also sucked 

Motivated people to be insane oocly like they were moonstruck (This was a huge part)

Largely contributed to people going inactive and becoming active only when they were threatened/wanted to threaten people they like

Did not contribute significantly to story outside of very very select playerbases

Players often self imploded and would rather spite others OOCly than contribute to a story (leading to things like leaking secrets of themselves, tattling on others, metagaming info etc. without any IC basis other than "Dont like them all of the sudden" "Oh heres my new epic character btw can i JOin ur group :DDD" )

Constant victim complexes brought on by eachother or themselves despite constant ST intervention at explicit player request, be that (extremely favourable) enforcement of lore, amendments, additions, or further 

Changes begged for (or resisted) by the community which were then inversed respectively after implementation

Caused rifts, issues, and fights that still persist even the better part of a year after it's shelving

all this basically applies to both striga and siliti outside of coffings/cannibalism which is siliti specific

i love vampires so fucking much i love vampires and their aesthetics and storytelling and roleplay its by far my favorite genre or trope but holy shit does it attract people to the story in such a toxic and unhealthy way that it makes it worse for pretty much everyone, people so often crab bucket and drag one another down to this level because it becomes the ooc-meta level appropriate to roleplay at and has a huge negative feedback loop 

i wont be considering rewrites for either and think corcitura serves as a more than ample replacement which hasnt made people behave like they were suddenly mind controlled completely bonkers outside of like 1 or 2 instances (which were dealt with pretty quickly by others in roleplay and spurred no issue otherwise), whilst both lores weren't necessarily the issues i think the nature of the lores and the people who played them/attracted (Not in total, just by in large) made them extremely negative pieces for the server outside of worldbuilding/event narrative. 

Holy shit a squakhawk reply

You're not at all wrong, I started on Thronecraft where vampires somehow managed to be both more predatory and more toxic than I think even Lotc vampires have done, it was a terrible experience and inevitably even killed that server. FRP was much better, but it also had a dedicated group of vampires keeping the community clean. I love vampires to death, I love them when they bring a legitimate air of horror to a medium that's hard for me at least to actually feel any fear or excitement that way, and they're aesthetically peak, but it's entirely fair to say due to their history here it just isn't for the server. It absolutely does draw the worst possible crowd, and that's very hard to control

Many such cases on Lotc, it's really very unfortunate, but we can't change people as easily as we can change lore