Laurir'leh 2 Share Posted February 2, 2012 To Okarin'sil Nelecar - Laurir, you should remember the main teaching of the Mali'aheral: "Maehr'sae hyilun'ehya". I am not telling you that you must not feel that any person not worthy of living in the wise city of Haelun'or is worth your time, but as you were chosen to lead our army, you should know that allies are helpful, but not having enemies is even more. The people from Malinor are that near it is not worthy to start a fight with them over subtleties. They are indeed unworthy of our respect, but your words to them are not those of a Mali'aheral, whose rationality should overcome any desire, need or, in this case, hate. That is the main reason we are above them, and that is the reason you must meditate about before showing hate to any race. Except Uruks, they will attack you anyway. To Aurea - Illir, by some of what I have read here you do not seem to fully comprehend the complete meaning of the Mali'aheral teachings. We are indeed more intelligent, but that is due to the bathing in the golden pools hidden under the college. The golden particles in those pools seem to have altered our bodies and minds, and thus we have become Mali'aheral. It is in our blood. I can't help to ask myself if you wrote this texts a while ago, and your spirit has grown wiser since then. If that is the case, you are who my deepest apologies are directed to, may I have offended my fellow Mali'aheral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muchoman798 5 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 For writing this post, and the subsequent from the topic's beginning, have I not only been proven right along the lines of High Elven racism, to the point at which they ignore my words and just admit it themselves? Has it not been shown a VAST majority of Wood Elves accept High and Dark, and Dark Elves accept High and Wood, but High Elves accept none? Only one High Elf has shown acceptance, and her words have indeed held the most wisdom; the most thought and tranquility. Why has this been shown so definitively that, as of now, this addition to this board is nonessential? Because every piece of diction thus far can be derived by one's own thoughts. But meaning I will give by saying this: When in a debate, the fools turn to hate. Keep this in mind, "High" Elves, as you all seem to be turning straight to hatred and separating yourselves, spare the kind Aurea. Love, Royce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuln 265 Share Posted February 3, 2012 To Laurir'leh I was aware of that it is in our blood that we are Mali'aheral, but I dont think it is nessesary to keep wisdom from others that search it, and if an other elf has a really strong desire of joining the college it would even be possible to turn him or her high elf. But my point is I understand our teachings, but I dont think knowlegde is only for us. -Aurea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esterlen 4499 Share Posted February 3, 2012 To Laurir'leh, I assure you, were he a full-blooded wood elf or even a full-blooded human I at least would have attempted to have a discussion with him. Haelphon or any half-blood is not worth any true mali'aheral's time. Wood elves are discriminated against for their worship of fictional gods and the chaos that is nature - these are both things that can be overcome. Overcoming this makes you our equal. You can not, however, overcome what you are born as. I would sooner ally with the mori'quessir than a nation ruled by a half-blood. To the activist in question, You only praise Aurea because she agrees with you. I will not deny that we are discriminatory. This is blatantly obvious. I am proud of it. ADDED NOTE: We do not discriminate against Aegisian dark elves, and we will not form an opinion on them until they form a distinct racial identity. - Nelecar, Master of Military of Haelun'or. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurir'leh 2 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Aurea, you know what wisdom can be found within Haelun'or, and which may be found in a near future. Part of this knowledge can be a disaster for Mali'aheral in the wrong hands. Just think of an Uruk wielding the ancient magic that our ancestors developed in the school. It would give me nightmares. It is a reason to keep other races away from the city. I agree with you that some of the knowledge should be allowed to outsiders, but scholars and translators have still a lot of work to do, and we do not have yet much, so splitting the library won't be a good idea. About the college… Well, it's not even functional right now. Turning other elves into High Elves I would agree to, was it the case of a pure-blooded elf, considering he is not of the wood, dark or mori Elven type. You know what we think of halfbreeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurir'leh 2 Share Posted February 3, 2012 To Nelecar - I agree with you that the ac'talimali is not worth spending time on, he be the High Prince or not. Notice I have not directed a word to him either. What I'm trying to make you see is not what you mean by what you say, rather than the words you use to say it. There are many delicate ways to tell someone he is less without need of rage and sore words. Show your Mali'aheral wit, and remember: the king doesn't make the kingdom, as the High Prince doesn't make the High Princedom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurir'leh 2 Share Posted February 3, 2012 To Royce - You are wrong in your words. Mali'aheral are not racist with no reason, as Nelecar said. We are not racist because we FEEL we are better or more intelligent. In fact, we aren't racist at all. We discrimine those whose rationality is below our own level. Thus, most elves will not have any problem entering Haelun'or, although they may not have access to everything and everywhere. Call that what you want, but do not use words that imply disrespect and building hatred against what you yourself call your cousins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuln 265 Share Posted February 3, 2012 to Laurir'leh I understand that we shouldnt give our knowledge to every random person, we need to chose the people we give our knowledge to carefully, but the general reason I said it was that I didnt like you calling me ignorant. -Aurea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurir'leh 2 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I did not, or such were not my intentions. You obviously know our many teachings, but my feel was that either you didn't comprehend them good enough, or you didn't apply them to your arguments. I do not blame you, as many Mali'aheral have come to the Wise City because of the privileges one gets there. ((Check Rivell's guide if you want)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esterlen 4499 Share Posted February 3, 2012 No-non high elves have permission to view any of the tomes in the college except for a select few. I know those include Rivell Gordian and Sovereign Lorethos, but there may be more. This will not change, Aurea, and you would be wise to change your attitude. Humans are to be useful if they are to be permitted into Haelun'or. Otherwise they will stay with their own kind. We do not suffer tourists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuln 265 Share Posted February 3, 2012 *gasps as she sees Nelecars post and says to herself:* By The magic of nature... He is... Afraid! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muchoman798 5 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 I fear this will be my last posting on this board, for I have now realized something. The inter-Elven discrimination is only because the High Elves are idiots who call themselves smart. They are physically weak, and find shelter in bullying; mentally insufficient, and find shelter in calling others so. High Elves are not worth my time. They are ignorant and useless. I would not have a single one hurt, in mind or body, lest he hurt me. And it looks like it has just come to insults being flung like primitive beings and feces, so I wish not to be aggravated by the blindness and foolishness of the High Elves to the point of harm. ((No OOC rage here. And Lauir'leh, post once, not thrice please)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuln 265 Share Posted February 4, 2012 ((Its funny because IG they dont are as discriminating as they are here on the forums.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esterlen 4499 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I fear this will be my last posting on this board, for I have now realized something. The inter-Elven discrimination is only because the High Elves are idiots who call themselves smart. They are physically weak, and find shelter in bullying; mentally insufficient, and find shelter in calling others so. High Elves are not worth my time. They are ignorant and useless. I would not have a single one hurt, in mind or body, lest he hurt me. And it looks like it has just come to insults being flung like primitive beings and feces, so I wish not to be aggravated by the blindness and foolishness of the High Elves to the point of harm. ((No OOC rage here. And Lauir'leh, post once, not thrice please)) As we can see quite clearly here the would-be activist, when his argument is disproven, flings insults with no basis around. What has Malinor come to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haelphon 407 Share Posted February 4, 2012 What is more important- Regarding yourself as honorable, or others regarding you as noble? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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