Gladuos

Yikes, talk about endless fluff at the beginning. Maybe put that into a spoiler so it's easier to skim over the stuff that matters? I haven't read the whole lore yet, but it seems druid ferals have been entirely removed to begin with. It says in there that ferals cannot learn magic.

Full Name: Velulaei Elillera Age: 95 Residency: Haelun'or Major Subject: Medicine Secondary Subject: Alchemy Please compose a well-written paragraph, explaining why you’d like to attend the Holm Academy, and what opportunities you may pursue with your degree. "I want to attend the medicine class for the sake of performing better mundane doctoring when out on my daily life. As a priestess of Tahariae, I find it incredibly important for me to best be able to treat patients when they are needed. If I am ever without my blessings, I should still be able to provide care without hesitance. Whether I was a cleric or not, this is what I'd be wanting to do. Alchemy plays a large part in medicine as well, as far as I know. I'd be attending that for similar reasons." ((Discord: Gladuos#3976)) ((MC Username: NoSilhouette))

MC ▫ Name ≎ NoSilhouette Sprite ▫ Type ≎ Complicated Animated Character ▫ Name ≎ Velulaei Elillera Character ▫ Race ≎ High Elf Reference ▫ Picture(s) ≎ You'll find this art page very useful. :^J

I can't speak for Ascended because I'm not one but I don't think I've ever seen them legitimately regen a missing limb before. Besides that, there are a lot of ways to deal with missing limbs or permanent injuries that aren't directly healing methods like magic prosthetics. Those can be fun tbh, I wish clerics had some type of neat prosthetic.

I don't believe there are any ways to regenerate entire missing organs or limbs without the use of resurrection from monks (not a player thing) or regeneration potions. I'm not an expert on Ascended, but I am a cleric. Clerics certainly cannot restore missing organs/limbs. That's fair enough, but I stand by my opinion that if you put a lot more time and effort into practicing a magic dedicated to RP, you ought to be better for it in some way or another than a common mundane healer. Clerics do actually do this, but the point isn't to be on par with alchemists but to be the healers on the server. That's what holies ought to be, and I think they should deserve it for all the months of RP and magic slot usage it takes to get there. Plus, some people really like the religious light magic style of healing things over gritty manual fixing things.

I've had some time to sleep and recollect my thoughts, so here's a little more of my two cents. I'll admit that I was wrong about a few things in my initial comments throughout this thread. Also, I apologize for any aggressiveness towards people, including chon, regarding this. I was feeling very frustrated about what I felt was an injustice towards the RP I and many others regularly do. The following are just my thoughts, and not directed at anyone. Holy healing magic is incapable of regenerating lost limbs or organs, I'll note. I know many people have been bringing this up, so I'll clear it for you. If someone loses a foot, or a hand, a cleric won't be able to grow it back. They might be able to reattach it if they bring it soon enough, but that's about it. The only thing available to players which regenerates lost organs like that is the regen potion, an alchemical method. The truth is that mundane doctoring and alchemy are able to replicate everything clericism does with enough time and preparation, if not some what more due to the aforementioned potion. Sure, you might not be able to fix curses, but a potion could certainly be written up and submitted to address such. Like a "break curse" potion. I'd even be willing for such, I'm all for letting there be methods of healing certain things without the necessity of holies. I believe the only real difference in capabilities and limitations between mundane doctoring/alchemy and holy healing is that holy magic takes less time and preparation (like not needing extensive tools, materials, salves, potions, etc). This may seem unfair at a first glance, but let me explain my reasoning as to why I don't think it is. Anyone is able to make a "master alchemist/doctor" at any time. You can have one made in less than a day. As for mastering clericism? Six IRL months filled with progressing RP to acquire such. I believe that due to the large OOC barrier between being a regular character and learning the fullest extents of a holy healing magic is justification for letting it be some what better than mundane doctoring. People waste months and months of time RPing this, learning about how to cast the magic, using up one of their magic slots, often times researching anatomy. I feel like there's no reason their RP should be devalued by having their magic made worthless, all of those obstacles in the way only to be as useful as the alchemist someone made yesterday. Clerics and other holies are a lot about being dedicated to healing, and medicine RP. If they're not allowed to be exceptional for it because people are afraid of ignoring consequences, I don't know what to say. It seems like the equivalent of saying a problem shouldn't be able to be fixed because putting in endless time and effort is worthless in the equation. This is their main shtick, let holies do what they're meant to do. Fact of the matter is you can ignore their healing, and their healing isn't particularly better than mundane/alchemical healing anyway. Yes, anyone can OOCly choose how effective holy healing is on their character.

Or rather you fall back on your classic 180 maneuver and change what you meant so it better suits your argument. You seem to have misunderstood what I said too.

I think whether or not holy healing magic is fine in a fantasy server is a little different from racism or sexism, guy. You're fighting the straw man. It's subjective, there's no proving sh*t and it's more subtle than what you think it is. In my opinion, holy magic healing is fine. You're picking the extreme on the other spectrum.

I actually don't know where to start, everything you say is basically the exact opposite of what I believe is the right thing to do. And it comes down to subjective opinions on what is good and what is bad, I didn't say anything you advocate for is evil, just terrible imo. Every single time. I don't know how it gets in your head, it's so foreign to me. The point is I don't want to discuss it with you because you're the type of person who will go on for hours and hours because you're so set in your ways. It actually does piss me off, yeah. You're acting very smug.

And that's a good way to ignore my extremely valid points as well, sir. I'm telling you that you're full of sh*t, and everything you're trying to say to "disprove" mine seems like delusion. You're an advocate for the devil, is there ever any instance where you don't pick the awful side?

@ChonGojDragonski I'm not gonna make a huge analytical response to everything you've said and turn it against you in the same petty manner as you have, but you seem a pretty big advocate against holy healing. That's fine, you're allowed to not use it. Don't force other people to suffer your """""""""""""quality""""""""""""" roleplay though, it won't be fun for anyone but you. I'm sure that's what you're after though.

I recall once during my basic af studies of US law, you have rights up until it infringes on the rights of another person. Knowing this, I'd say everyone has the right to enjoy their RP here on this server, and if you can't enjoy things without forcing harsh consequences on RP (and thus taking away their enjoyment), you should probably check yourself. Not to say people should be allowed to "lahdeedah" and ignore all RP because they can have things fixed, but rather you making it a sweeping across the board nerf on magic healing just because of those instances is rather unfair. Some people would rather not be mutilated, or turned unplayable just because there's no real method of fixing things. That's just not the kind of RP they enjoy, so perhaps don't be selfish and let them enjoy their time here, guys? Healing magic is fine in literally every other medium of fantasy, so why is LotC the exception? Even in combat it can be fine, if there are ample methods of disrupting the process. (Like hitting the healer as they will take quite some time and energy to do things). ****, Dungeons and Dragons has healing in combat all the time and that's fine by everyone afaik.

I honestly don't understand this fad. The LotC community always has specific things of the week they want to hyper focus on and criticize unnecessarily. There's literally nothing wrong with it, and healing magic is fine in any other medium. I can't help but feel the problem lies in the players themselves, such as people who get angry when others don't conform to their grimdark consequence RP. Let people do what they enjoy, that's what we're here for. Don't drive more people away.

As much as ya'll love your consequence roleplay, I have to say holy healing is a necessity. Sometimes people would resort to doing bullshit stuff like removing all limbs, gouging out eyeballs, removing ears, scarring, and leaving someone a mutilated, unplayable mess. Implying mundane anything, even alchemy, can deal with that in an extensive manner is ludicrous. It just can't. Before anyone mentions regen potion, no. Some people don't want to be retarded murderers just to bring back a finger. Furthermore, I don't think your arguments are very valid for arguing holy magic as a bad thing. You can make up a false debate towards anything in the format you've chosen. Izkuthii and illusions are bad because you can shapeshift or disguise yourself into any form you please. This removes the consequences of having to formulate your own costume to get by through roleplay. This detracts from the real non-magical masters of disguise on this server. It needs to be nerfed because it has little to no consequence for being able to look in any fashion that you please. Evocations are bad because it lets you create fire when you could otherwise create fire through plenty of wood, tinder, and flint and steel. Being able to evoke anything from nothing is bad because it has no consequence of having to collect that element before using it. This detracts from the elementalist non-mages who like to throw rocks at people and create bonfires. smh Nerf all evocations and illusions/izkuthii. In case you couldn't tell, that was entirely satire and I can't help but believe this is a well constructed attempt to lash at holy magics when in reality it's just the function of the magic. It's MEANT to be good for healing, and it's a good thing because some people would rather have fun than deal with the ultra harsh consequences forced on them by other players. LotC is full of murder hobos, after all. If anything, all this would do is encourage people to die of wounds more often so that they just resurrect. Healing RP isn't all that fun for the victim, so tbh having something that deals with it quickly seems like a good thing. If you're worried about consequences of holy magic healing, make it so that it has a detrimental effect on the patient. Something like exhaustion or unconsciousness for taking a lot out of the body to heal itself rapidly, as orchestrated by holy magics. *shrug

"Orcs are fuckin' stupid an' so are spirits." comments a jaded old ginger halfman.

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Why does this warrant greater attention and its own lore post over just submitting in the creature index?

The wall leads to that frost witch nation and when the door's opened, we get frozen by thots.

Bruh we play on LotC.

So basically so long as you roll above a 7 any wall that's under 18 blocks high is irrelevant. Interesting.

Another is lost in a vivid dream not unlike Klaus', as it appears the machine god has plans in store for those he finds have potential in the material realm. Daniel awakens within his dark, empty shack deep within the Oyashima lands. A sweat had gathered on the Mali's brow, visage sharpening to one of deepened thought. As he had left in search of tying up loose ends before going to chase his dreams, it appears his dreams did not want to wait and came for him first.

Congrats on the first year. I celebrated mine via PKing my first character. :,^] Favorite color? Favorite character on LotC? (Can be your own or someone else's) Opinion of me? Elvira Jr. meets Tichar when How has your day been? Why don't we RP more?

An elderly ginger tree lord creaks as his wrinkled visage scans the parchment. The halfman gives a subtle chortle, brow creasing and cracked fingers closing the tome. "So yer righ', brotheh. Ah won' deny ya tha', but don' forget we people an' 'umans are separate from Nature. We will foreveh be a disturbance, an' so neveh forget tha' through all ya ambition... It is only in service where it won't become a bligh' teh t'is world."

I'm not ashamed, I mentioned it in the post as well! Fact is it works. :J

Then you're fine to take it or leave it. The guide is just a guide, after all. Time in emotes are variable, but the point is to give an idea that very little time passes per emote, and that you can only pull off a few things. Like the actions I mentioned in my system. Plus, the problems you have with 6 seconds don't matter if they use this guide. There's only one action per emote, and people can always react if something's coming their way once. Edit: I might've been unclear when writing the guide anyway. I moreso meant to say 6 seconds pass per round... Or the time it takes everyone to emote once. @_Lackless_ As stated in the post, there's no rule against going past a 5 emote charged spell, but I discourage people from doing this against other players. It tends to cause annoyance and anger with some people. EditER: Also it was a meme, you'd die of exhaustion before reaching Vegeta tier blast. *wheeze