VonEbs 1224 Share Posted February 1, 2014 [3:54:32 PM] Rittsy: The fact that owners changed hands means that a GM dealt with the situation already. Players don't get to hold on to a region and claim ownership simply because they never agreed to giving up the region OOCly even though they have no claim to the land IC. It's both or neither. [3:54:45 PM] Rittsy: By the GM's judgement, the old owners didn't need ownership anymore [3:54:54 PM] Rittsy: Thus the new owners have it This was supposedely the rationale given by the Administrator, rittsy, for the malinor region being given over to the Conclave. I would like to point out some fundamental problems with it. Firstly, just because a GM "dealt" with something does not mean it was done correctly. I should point to the breadbans by Cappy, the banning of Goldrin by Respiren, and countless other abuses of GM powers. In fact, the owners of the region did not change hands. Anyone who says so is gravely mistaken. This situation stems from the fact that the Conclave won a warclaim specifically on the city of New Malinor. It was decided that and entire nation could not be warclaimed at once, and it was agreed that the High Council could retreat if we lost. I retreated in secret once I was freed from the Conclave, and rply, I am still a Prince of Malinor. Anyone stating that Malinor has been dissolved rply is mistaken as well. A government cannot be dissolved either by people who do not have the power to dissolve it or by GMs or Admins who favor one party. If I want to be a pain in the ass in rp, I am allowed to. Using ooc means to shut the High Council out of the territory it still owns is a grevious abuse of staff power. As to say the High Council of Malinor, the ooc and ic owners of the land, did not need ownership, it extremely biased. To say the High Council of Malinor has no IC claim is ludicrous, as we owned the land for months and it has not been taken from us by warclaim, which is the only way to seize regioned labd from someone unwilling ti give it up. The Conclave could not possibly own it, unless you want to invalidate warclaim rules, which both parties were bound to. I ask that this incorrect ruling be reevaluated in regards to actual facts and rules and that roleplay be allowed to continue without GM interference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuHanXianShi14 0 Share Posted February 1, 2014 The conclave took over your capital, and Lenniel and Darkhaven have merged into Lenniel and become an entirely seperate state. Malinor is nothing but trees and squirrels. You can claim to be a prince of that all you like, the true owners of the nation are the Conclave people. Since we in Talonnii have no interest in owning any other land than our town and the immediate surrounding area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky 0 Share Posted February 1, 2014 It was dealt with by a Global Moderator, and was backed up by an Admin. I am sorry that you didn't get your way, but that is what happened and making constant threads about it wont really change things. So yeah, closing this thread. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky 0 Share Posted February 1, 2014 This players questions have been answered and the situation resolved. Should you wish to have this reopened, please PM me your reasons why it should be so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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