A Thorough Explanation (Very Long Post)

[Rethai 163]

eh.

[Hanrahan 2983]

This would never happen to a 'Main' race.

[JPach 7]

 

This would never happen to a 'Main' race.

 

 

Because "Main" Races have alot of activity.

 

The Halflings aren't very active.

[zaezae 1098]

Because "Main" Races have alot of activity.

 

The Halflings aren't very active.

The four 'big' races are sponsored. I don't actually agree with this at all. The rule is mostly for non-sponsored groups. This includes, halflings, necros, or any other congregation of the four races that aren't apart of their main races nations.

I might be wrong.

[JCmarine 12]

The rule on inactive towns was made due to demands from the PLAYERBASE...the same demands we have seen every map since 2.0. And now that they enforce it all hell breaks loose, typical.

 

Lets be honest- If this was the high elves I doubt we would be seeing half the number of people against this, just knowing how so many players seem to have some ooc thing against the high elves. Hell most of you would be for it and the high elves would have to try to rebuild their huge city and everything by hand. You think rebuilding a small hobbit village is bad...just think. I'm not a high elf either.

 

 

Halfling town was a ghost town, I went there often to check it out and rarely saw anyone else and I was doing this during prime time with 200+ people on. Having 40-50 people on TS means nothing when ig 1 or 2 are on in other cities. Chests were empty and those with stuff had rotten food and a few little things, stalls were unused and in general the town was and is dead. Just because you disagree with a rule that the entire server was told about does not somehow make it as some have claimed pointless, invalid or useless. 

 

The staff made mistakes, admitted it and have tried to find a compromise. That does not somehow excuse some of you from being total assholes about this nor does it change the fact even your veteran halflings admit the town was inactive. You have likely pissed off a number of people because of your self entitled attitude, myself included. Some of you may throw a tantrum and never play halfling again, likely for the better.

 

Those of you who play halflings and have tried to have a reasonable discussion without made up statistics or angry blame games, I wish you luck with the move. I hope you manage to perhaps build up your population a bit and stick with it and try to make something better from this instead of arguing or shouting over it. When things settle down I will be stopping by to bring some rp by.

 

The staff are not responsible for in any way destroying the halflings, no matter what people claim. Inactivity and bad attitude are doing that for them currently. Halflings are a sub race,not a town and not a group of specific players. Many of you may never rp another halfling again, so be it. But others will come and play them and I hope they never have to see members of their community acting like some of you have in the last week. 

 

You could easily move without any world edit to someplace such as the dwarves and rebuild witht he help of players from around there. Instead you getting your houses moved in one piece and literally having to only rebuild like the roads and such at most. And you dare to throw it back in their faces and continue to try to put it all on the staff. 

 

Cmack:

 

Your arguments are self invalidating. Rules are there to give the server a foundation to work from, just because you dislike it does not mean in any way you are right. Some people hate pvp being default, some people wish cybering was allowed. They are not, and yet even with people disliking them they are just as valid as the rules on pugsying. The fact is your attitude is that of a 12 year old who has been given the wrong barbie doll for chrismas and throws it in the face of the person who got it for them. Hell even Alras fell due to inactivity and ooc pressure during 4.0 ((and some ddosing)) and lost its land and they were actually an official nation built by a number of players I call friends back during the days of Ageis.  You became inactive, how the hell in your mind do you justify having land when even you admit your town was inactive. If you knew this you should of tried to counter act it, not demand that a few long term halfling players get their own pocket town away from everything else because if you don't you will throw a fit. 4 vet halfling players does not a town make.

 

For one, I'm glad your done with the halflings, your attitude is not needed.

the truth. *cries at the beauty of it

[JPach 7]

The four 'big' races are sponsored. I don't actually agree with this at all. The rule is mostly for non-sponsored groups. This includes, halflings, necros, or any other congregation of the four races that aren't apart of their main races nations.

I might be wrong.

The Main races are always safe because new players are always joining the Capitals. Mainly experienced players are breaking off into the different sub-factions. That is why this would never happen to a main race. They aren't ELIMINATING halflings. People can still be them. They aren't allowing the Halfling town to have it's own island. If they establish an effective populous, They CAN regain their lost land again. They just need to re-meet the requirements.

[Volutional 935]

Whatever happened to roleplay defining out of character decisions like this? When you, the staff, brought in new races you knew fine well that you'd have to stick by that decision. You can't just add something then remove it because it suits you and expect not to be cried at. The Mori were removed in a similar way, and that was equally outrageous BUT, they had an RP reason to stay in their home while it fell. Here, you're BOOTING out characters for an OOC reason.

 

Honestly, it really is as simple as that.

[Backup Lago 320]

- GMs unintentionally reveal in PMs that Halfling now have not lost their land due to inactivity. The reason they lost their land is because they were 'inflammatory' towards staff.

 

As I said, petty draconian revenge which GMs should be above rather than acting like children.

[Stag 3231]

As I said, petty draconian revenge which GMs should be above rather than acting like children.

 

Lago you need to calm down.

 

This wasn't some sinister plot of revenge. It is to combat ghost towns & hold the halflings to the same standards we are holding to everyone else to. Did we learn a lot with this? Yeah, it's the first time we have put this part of the new charter system to use & adjustments are surely to be made but holy shiz get over yourself and move on. I don't even care what your current thoughts are on the staff as you aren't offering any constructive-criticism anymore. We are getting work done, learning/adjusting & moving on with it ourselves.

 

 I believe Halflings ( _Jandy_ ) are in communication with GMs. If you have any ideas/thoughts/advice for him you can PM him (I hope you don't mind me saying that Jandy) This thread has run it's course and so I shall be locking it so it can rest.