[✗] Larger Sorvian Metamorphosis Addition

[fizzyquack 564]

Old Lore: 
 

Spoiler

FIRMAMENTAL METAMORPHOSIS:
The Nephilim of Azdromoth [ex: scorched clay scales forming over body exterior, jagged draconic horns sprouting from head and along spine, extraneous arms that appear and may extend, but not function as, wings, dragonsflame-appearing anima within the chest cavity]

 

ARCANE METAMORPHOSIS:

Bardmancy, while not a Voidal Magic, would still affect a Sorvian, often giving them a naturally musical voice and much more fluid movement.

 

Housemagery, while not a full Voidal Magic, a Housemages manipulation of mana is still enough to give a Sorvian very light effects, such as their clothes always being clean, and dirt often finding it difficult to cling to the Sorvian themselves.

NEW LORE:
 

The following is added to Firmamental Metamorphosis:

 

Machine Spirits [ex: The sorvian's body begins to have a metallic appearance and shine, along with what looks to be metal plating, though still feels like clay.]

 

Palmreading [ex: the sorvian would appear to have blackened extremities upon their form, along with what would appear to be burnt palms upon their clay hands.]

 

 

The Following is Changed In Firmamental Metamorphosis in Bold:

 

The Heralds and Nephilim of Azdromoth [ex: scorched clay scales forming over body exterior, jagged draconic horns sprouting from head and along spine, extraneous arms that appear and may extend, but not function as, wings, dragonsflame-appearing anima within the chest cavity]

 

The Following is added to Arcane Metamorphosis:

 

Voidstalking would form a dark nebulous cloud layer over the Sorvians body, occasionally giving off streaks of elemental discharge. As well the sorvian may hear faint incomprehensible whispers.

 

The Following is  changed in Arcane Metamorphosis in Bold and struck through to remove:

 

Bardmancy, while not a Voidal Magic, would still affect a Sorvian, often giving them a naturally musical voice, much more fluid movement, and the subtle urge to create art, or perform.

 

Housemagery, while not a full Voidal Magic, a Housemages manipulation of mana is still enough to give a Sorvian very light effects, such as their clothes always being clean, and dirt often finding it difficult to cling to the Sorvian themselves.

 

Purpose:

When reading the current lore for sorvian metamorphosis, I felt like the effects from firmamental metamorphosis needed a nice addition, along with a corrections and minor additions here and there. Part of the reasoning for me adding Palmreading, Demi-Djinn, and machine spirits as well is due to the hold their deities have on the sculptors soul. When Frost Witches were around, they could do such. Why can't they? 

Credits:
Thank you to @Wolfy-Dfor adding the voidstalker portion. Apologies for not adding it to the more recent amendment. 

I hope you all like this, feedback is appreciated. 

Edited May 5 by fizzyquack
Demi-Djinn removed.

[Anbennar 2351]

Amazing as always.

[Jentos 9422]

thats pretty neat

[milksoda 2884]

YAPFEST INBOUND!!!! (sorry in advance ik i sound like a huge nerd rn I literally hate nerdposting but I might just be 1 of 2 people directly affected by the djinn part of this post)

i want to firstly clarify I dont think you were being purposely in bad faith with this but I do take some issues and feel as though I have some ethos on the topic as a long time djinn player and TA holder and as the only person who has a sorvian that was made by a djinn (to my knowledge) so I just wanted to put my 2 cents in for reviewers. I hope my tone comes across as neutral bc i do feel bad giving negative feedback.

firstly, the comments of the accepted lore address the issue of non listed CA's and their effects of metamorphosis as seen here:

While this is very vague and freeform and I agree with you in the respect that we should have more codified sorvian traits for every CA that can make them I don't think shackles are the way to go about it due to what the djinn lore precedent dictates and the fact that the djinn community was not consulted about their lore at all in regards to this amendment. 

djinn shackles are a physical object made by the djinn that are then blessed during the creation ritual, creatures with lesser souls (sorvians) cant have shackles, only descendants can. This is literally written in the djinn redlines. This is to say they are mundane objects that are later enchanted rather than things that manifest upon the djinn magically (pre reincarnation). I feel as though taking upon a djinn's specific glamours or even taking upon traits of a djinn's third phase would be less contradictory from a lore perspective and would also be way cooler than just giving them the jewelry that metagames the entire CA.

Which leads me to question why you specifically chose shackles I know you did not do this on purpose so that is what leads me to believe the lore was not understood in entirety when making this suggestion. I again dont know you at all and am giving you the benefit of the doubt so I really hope personal offense isn't taken but the shackle thing would be a nightmare. Yes I am mega biased and I admit that, but these are my thoughts as someone who is currently one of 2 players who would be affected by this amendment currently aside from future djinn players who want to make sorvians.

My final point is that by nature of being similar to seers in that their Aenguldaemon is one who takes upon many different forms it is not conducive to rp to slap another way for djinn to get metagamed. Please just choose that a sorvian inherits a djinn's specific glamors instead or even that they just have weirdo genie effects please. please o please.

- The Zu

Edited May 5 by milksoda

[Werew0lf 24179]

what funtzu said

[Barbarus 1232]

what funtzu said

[wowj 9747]

what funtzu said

[Swgrclaŋ 697]

This can be appreciated for showing new ways of how a Sorvian can metamorphose, but it should be noted that everything you list here is essentially already possible. The list of metamorphosis effects you showed as references were themselves only examples and not codifications, as a the feature is inherently freeform and differences could be found even between two hypothetical Djinn or even mundane cultural groups irregardless of the similarity of their domain. If this were to pass, I imagine this would just add to the group of examples.

[fizzyquack 564]

55 minutes ago, milksoda said:

YAPFEST INBOUND!!!! (sorry in advance ik i sound like a huge nerd rn)

i want to firstly clarify I dont think you were being purposely in bad faith with this but I do take some issues and feel as though I have some ethos on the topic as a long time djinn player and TA holder and as the only person who has a sorvian that was made by a djinn (to my knowledge) so I just wanted to put my 2 cents in for reviewers. I hope my tone comes across as neutral bc i do feel bad giving negative feedback.

firstly, the comments of the accepted lore address the issue of non listed CA's and their effects of metamorphosis as seen here:

While this is very vague and freeform and I agree with you in the respect that we should have more codified sorvian traits for every CA that can make them I don't think shackles are the way to go about it due to what the djinn lore precedent dictates and the fact that the djinn community was not consulted about their lore at all in regards to this amendment. 

djinn shackles are a physical object made by the djinn that are then blessed during the creation ritual, creatures with lesser souls (sorvians) cant have shackles, only descendants can. This is literally written in the djinn redlines. This is to say they are mundane objects that are later enchanted rather than things that manifest upon the djinn magically (pre reincarnation). I feel as though taking upon a djinn's specific glamours or even taking upon traits of a djinn's third phase would be less contradictory from a lore perspective and would also be way cooler than just giving them the jewelry that metagames the entire CA.

Which leads me to question why you specifically chose shackles I know you did not do this on purpose so that is what leads me to believe the lore was not understood in entirety when making this suggestion. I again dont know you at all and am giving you the benefit of the doubt so I really hope personal offense isn't taken but the shackle thing would be a nightmare. Yes I am mega biased and I admit that, but these are my thoughts as someone who is currently one of 2 players who would be affected by this amendment currently aside from future djinn players who want to make sorvians.

My final point is that by nature of being similar to seers in that their Aenguldaemon is one who takes upon many different forms it is not conducive to rp to slap another way for djinn to get metagamed. Please just choose that a sorvian inherits a djinn's specific glamors instead or even that they just have weirdo genie effects please. please o please.

- The Zu

Hello! Thank you for your response. 

I do want to apologize- I should have consulted the Djinn playerbase before posting this. When looking at CA's, I do not usually look into the comments... I often find a lot of stuff that I don't usually pay attention to. People praising it, people complaining... and honestly- I should've. I thought it would be neat to add Djinn- but I didn't realize the significance of the shackles- or realize it could be a way of metagaming a Djinn. I in reality thought it would be really interesting- given how often you see the shackles. Next time, I will consult the communities behind this- so I can avoid such happening again.

Anyways, Demi-Djinn are going to be removed from this post. Thank you again for the response! I really do appreciate it. I hope to see you irp!

[milksoda 2884]

34 minutes ago, fizzyquack said:

Hello! Thank you for your response. 

I do want to apologize- I should have consulted the Djinn playerbase before posting this. When looking at CA's, I do not usually look into the comments... I often find a lot of stuff that I don't usually pay attention to. People praising it, people complaining... and honestly- I should've. I thought it would be neat to add Djinn- but I didn't realize the significance of the shackles- or realize it could be a way of metagaming a Djinn. I in reality thought it would be really interesting- given how often you see the shackles. Next time, I will consult the communities behind this- so I can avoid such happening again.

Anyways, Demi-Djinn are going to be removed from this post. Thank you again for the response! I really do appreciate it. I hope to see you irp!

omg no worries at all! thank you for understanding and being chill I felt really bad abt nerdposting negative feedback. honestly I'd be happy to work w/ LT to propose something else if needed but I appreciate it dude, hope to see u irp c:

[NightOfTheWind 3226]

1 hour ago, fizzyquack said:

I thought it would be neat to add Djinn-

 

dont even worry about it fizzy it was a sick idea i liked it a lot and i like what u wrote for the other ones

just wouldnt work w/ how djinn is

i like the post btw +1

[Pallodium 3775]

This lore has been denied.

 

This was taken to an internal vote and was denied. Keep in mind that these are supposed to just be guiding examples, and reviewers don't want to keep spamming Sorvian lore with every niche example of the possible magics when this is supposed to be almost purely freeform.