kalista 18 Share Posted November 10, 2011 ((wake up. England wouldn't be alive today had it not been for america's help. If I remember correctly, churchhill almost begged America to help them in ww2. We supplied planes, ships, and almost all of your munitions to you. Did we blow up half of Vietnam for fun? No, we didn't even start that war. I know a lot of countries don't like America because we're too "meddlesome", that's why NATO spearheaded the Libya operation instead of america. Tarl, no need to flame on america. We love America, and other people's opinions won't make us hate our country. Keep the opinions to yourself, I didn't even start the argument about Washington. If you have something more to say to me, you are welcome to pm me. We don't need a flame war on the public forums.)) ((firstly churchil didnt beg america to come into the war, they joined when Germany blew up american merchant ships bringing food to england, you were too busy fighting the Japanese for most of the war, during the blitz, the germans hardly touched englands military bases, allowing us to re build them, by the end of the blitz, elngland was back up to its full military strength, had america not join, we may still have won, bare in mind russia had just beated the germans in the east and were pushing them back to berlin)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebanamana 410 Share Posted November 10, 2011 ((Let's be honest here the United States are not the reason World War 2 was won, the Russians are to thank for that. The largest military offensives the world has ever seen were staged on the eastern front. China can thank America for saving them, and Great Britain can thank us for not becoming a communist country, but really that is it. Our lasting contribution to the war was ending it quicker and keeping Western Europe Capitalist.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash_Rogers 130 Share Posted November 10, 2011 And watch the undead blast lightning at travelers? EDIT: Also, Undead always attack for fun. set up road blocks and detour people. This is a big problem. Everyone in Aegis, especially "trained and disciplined" (different from the average person) troops and even more specifically "high ranked officials", wants to be the hero, so no one follows directives, causing mass disorganization starting from within the military forces. From what I can tell, the Undeads strategy is too get the troops riled up to evoke an aggressive response to these near immortal beings so as to distract them from their no so fun but important duties, which are to protect the occupants of Aegis from real threats that the military forces can deal with such as villains. Petty criminals run free killing dogs in the streets, intruding into houses, running along rooftops and breaking other minor rules that are lacking enforcement. ((it causes bad RP cause the criminals go unpunished and then we have people we call guards who are no better than the NPCs who just stand around saying "cant talk right now I'm on guard duty" while the city burns from a real undead EVENT DRIVEN attack)) All I can say is there needs to be more discipline being handed out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalista 18 Share Posted November 10, 2011 ((Let's be honest here the United States are not the reason World War 2 was won, the Russians are to thank for that. The largest military offensives the world has ever seen were staged on the eastern front. China can thank America for saving them, and Great Britain can thank us for not becoming a communist country, but really that is it. Our lasting contribution to the war was ending it quicker and keeping Western Europe Capitalist.)) ((bottom line is russia is awesome and saved everyones arse's, the french, Flemish, dutch, polish, most of Europe in fact owe England for clearing the nazi's out them, and america owe china for saving their arse)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
。◕‿‿◕。 Hawk Whitestorm 715 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 ((that's why Russia dislikes a lot of the allies of the war. They felt that since they had done most of the fighting, they were entitled to a lot of land. When they didn't get it, they set up the Warsaw pact. Actually, England wouldn't have made it through the battle of England without America supplying planes. England lost the capacity to make planes because almost all of it's military facilities were bombed to heck. England lost a lot o planes every time the Germans attacked, and Germany could easily replace the planes. Englad without Americas help would have quickly ran out of planes. No more planes to protect the English channel, and the Germans would have blitzed England too. America mainly fought the Japanese for most of the war was because a second front wasn't opened yet. That second front would only start after d-day, with the invasion of normandy. Then america and England would start beating the Germans back. How did china save America????)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuta 141 Share Posted November 10, 2011 (( if you didn't help england, you wouldn't of had any bases in europe to fight the germans, so you would of lost eventually, so you would of lost yourself, so america helped them selves :P)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
。◕‿‿◕。 Hawk Whitestorm 715 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 (( if you didn't help england, you wouldn't of had any bases in europe to fight the germans, so you would of lost eventually, so you would of lost yourself, so america helped them selves :P)) ((No, Germany would never have beat America. If America didn't help England, England would have fell, and then Germany would attack America. But they need to cross the Atlantic ocean, which would be very unsafe for them, and our industrial capabilities could churn out planes, ships, guns, etc, by the hundreds and thousands. EDIT: Okay, we're not here to argue if you like america or not. If you want to argue still, pm me and I'll gladly debate with you.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Option 9652 Share Posted November 10, 2011 ((No, Germany would never have beat America. If America didn't help England, England would have fell, and then Germany would attack America. But they need to cross the Atlantic ocean, which would be very unsafe for them, and our industrial capabilities could churn out planes, ships, guns, etc, by the hundreds and thousands. EDIT: Okay, we're not here to argue if you like america or not. If you want to argue still, pm me and I'll gladly debate with you.)) (No Duh, Like America is just the BEST Country to have even graced this planet, I LOVE MY Country *sarcasm*) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
。◕‿‿◕。 Hawk Whitestorm 715 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 ((I didn't even start the discussion)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalista 18 Share Posted November 10, 2011 ((No, Germany would never have beat America. If America didn't help England, England would have fell, and then Germany would attack America. But they need to cross the Atlantic ocean, which would be very unsafe for them, and our industrial capabilities could churn out planes, ships, guns, etc, by the hundreds and thousands. EDIT: Okay, we're not here to argue if you like america or not. If you want to argue still, pm me and I'll gladly debate with you.)) ((the Germans had marched through most of Europe, not stopped by anyone, America would have lost, especially if the Germans weren't putting 75% of their forces into fighting the Russians, and the Japanese weren't spending 99% of their time fighting the Chinese, by the end of the blitz, England was back up to almost full military strength, the Americans didnt supply England with planes, they were to busy getting their arses kicked by the Japanese. the Russians are the ones responsible for Europe not being under Nazi rule, not the Americans, Russia has just has got a really bad reputation because of the cold war and communism, which is actually a pretty good governing system)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
。◕‿‿◕。 Hawk Whitestorm 715 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 ((the Germans had marched through most of Europe, not stopped by anyone, America would have lost, especially if the Germans weren't putting 75% of their forces into fighting the Russians, and the Japanese weren't spending 99% of their time fighting the Chinese, by the end of the blitz, England was back up to almost full military strength, the Americans didnt supply England with planes, they were to busy getting their arses kicked by the Japanese. the Russians are the ones responsible for Europe not being under Nazi rule, not the Americans, Russia has just has got a really bad reputation because of the cold war and communism, which is actually a pretty good governing system)) ((Lol you don't know history. America supplied crap loads of plans to england. Lend lease? Japan wasn't even fighting anyone yet during the Battle of England. We weren't getting our arses kicked by Japan. Midway? Coral Sea? Communism would be great, if it was used right. Note: Germans marched all over Europe. Sailing to America and then trying to attack it is suicide for Germany. Why do you think Germany was never a naval power? The only thing they had for the seas were their u-boats, and u boats can't do crap against planes. As I say again, if you must argue this more, send me a pm.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebanamana 410 Share Posted November 10, 2011 set up road blocks and detour people. This is a big problem. Everyone in Aegis especially "trained and disciplined" (different from the average person) troops and even more specifically "high ranked officials" wants to be the hero so no one follows directives causing mass disorganization starting from within the military forces. From what I can tell the Undeads strategy is to get the troops riled up to return fire upon these near immortal beings so as to distract them from their duties to protect the occupants of Aegis from real threats that the military forces can deal with such as villains petty criminals run free killing dogs in the streets and intruding into house running along rooftops. All I can say is there needs to be more discipline being handed out. Everyone! I mean everyone thinks they are a great knight undead slaying hero. That if they say inspiration things like "They are bad, we MUST kill them! For Aegis men!" *rolls eyes* Then everyone will love them and think they are amazing. It is awful to see how much disregard people have for men of actual command. It would be easier to win a battle if the commanding officer just killed the idiots who would not listen to orders. How did china save America????)) ((Lulwut? I think you got my words switched around.)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Option 9652 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Everyone! I mean everyone thinks they are a great knight undead slaying hero. That if they say inspiration things like "They are bad, we MUST kill them! For Aegis men!" *rolls eyes* Then everyone will love them and think they are amazing. It is awful to see how much disregard people have for men of actual command. It would be easier to win a battle if the commanding officer just killed the idiots who would not listen to orders. ((Lulwut? I think you got my words switched around.)) Just saying, you sound like you'd want to join the Teutonic Order ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossssM 61 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Oh Gaius, typical Gaius. [[And Kalista I'm going to have to agree with the argument against you as you described it as England fighting I'n the war rather than Britian. Complete dis-regard for the rest of the countries in Britian. This arguments gone a bit far now anyway, maybe bring it up I'n the off topic section?]] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Option 9652 Share Posted November 11, 2011 (( Oh Felix, I am a Lorewriter, I invite people to my flock :P )) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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