argonian 14254 Share Posted February 5, 2012 All the cities that fell were destroyed in scripted events. The GM team decided to ignore Hanseti and that is why Hanseti wasn't destroyed. Stop pretending that Hanseti didn't get destroyed because of it being awesome. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Option 9652 Share Posted February 5, 2012 All the cities that fell were destroyed in scripted events. The GM team decided to ignore Hanseti and that is why Hanseti wasn't destroyed. Stop pretending that Hanseti didn't get destroyed because of it being awesome. Excuse me?! Pretending that it is awesome, I stated that it didn't fall and linking it to the fact that we can draw in-character that perhaps it was our security. I highly suggest you take a breathe from this game if you are going to attempt to say that 'I was being arrogant' in that statement. I am someone that likes to improv my Roleplay, if the GMs ignored Konigsberg, that is fine and dandy, doesnt mean I can't make an incharacter inference. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoovie 31 Share Posted February 5, 2012 All I can see is Rage past what the eyes can see... Quite frankly, I am going to say this, you all can rage at me, you all can slander me, I am quite used to it for being intelligent and blunt. Hanseti has one of the legendary militaries as a result of greatly written Lore and In-Character decision-making and actions. Heck, Konigsberg was one of the last, if not the last cities to fall. Hanseti is besieging what never really evolved from a serf-plagued fiefdom, realistically all you all would be able to field is militias compared to the Ritterbruders of the Teutonic Order. To sit here and whine and complain is ridiculous, I did what I had to do to ensure that Hanseti would be in many situations, on upper ground. It is illogical and turning the cheek from truthful reality to deny that Hanseti can do this, of all Human Kingdoms; Hanseti is the most legitimate to field the most disciplined and hardened armies. Anyways, I am just glad that I was able to leave my original Roleplay group, the Teutonic Order, with a nation as they have proven themselves unique, intelligent, and capable. I will not comment on Renatus. That is all well and great and I commend you for your greatly written Lore and excellent in-character decision making. But the crux of your argument is faulty. You can have the best written lore and background story about how super amazing your elite fighting forces are and how you are fighting against a handful of peasants with pitchforks but if you fail win battles than clearly your army isn't so great. You have failed to recognize that, from reading earlier posts, your 'elite fighting forces' lost two of three battles. The wars and battles themselves are grounded in PVP combat. That is the deciding factor of who wins battles not the lore. So I assume that if this siege takes place and once again Renatus wins the battle you will just claim that ICly you had the better soldiers so Renatus would have realistically lost. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKrinkles 2044 Share Posted February 5, 2012 There where more incidents like this, I had mearly fawarded rumours on, He HAS attacked my reputation OOCly and ICly, and many more like me. That Is why I call him a scoundral, Nothing else. @Markus: I don't like you ICly and whenever I ask for screenshots of the things you charge people with you fail to provide. I don't know your friends and you, I don't talk about either. That is all well and great and I commend you for your greatly written Lore and excellent in-character decision making. But the crux of your argument is faulty. You can have the best written lore and background story about how super amazing your elite fighting forces are and how you are fighting against a handful of peasants with pitchforks but if you fail win battles than clearly your army isn't so great. You have failed to recognize that, from reading earlier posts, your 'elite fighting forces' lost two of three battles. The wars and battles themselves are grounded in PVP combat. That is the deciding factor of who wins battles not the lore. So I assume that if this siege takes place and once again Renatus wins the battle you will just claim that ICly you had the better soldiers so Renatus would have realistically lost. They have lost one and we lost one. It is tied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 14254 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Excuse me?! Pretending that it is awesome, I stated that it didn't fall and linking it to the fact that we can draw in-character that perhaps it was our security. I highly suggest you take a breathe from this game if you are going to attempt to say that 'I was being arrogant' in that statement. I am someone that likes to improv my Roleplay, if the GMs ignored Konigsberg, that is fine and dandy, doesnt mean I can't make an incharacter inference. Basically, what I got from what you were saying is that the reason Konigsberg never fell was because the Teutonic Order is awesome. I flamed you when making my response and I probably don't understand what you meant, for that I apologise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberingHer 11 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I sense butthurt within the ranks of the Renatii. Come on, guys. ^^' You all look at this situation like if this battle is allowed, it's an immediate loss. Go to the dwarves n' elves, get their help against the Hanseti "Empire", if you will. Capitalize on the balance of power. :P Nothing is over 'til the fat lady sings. We still have a lot of time to prepare. But Christ, stop the OOC whining. -.- You're hard warriors of your nation, not a bunch of weepy lil' schoolboys. )). (( Written with phone. Sorry for the derp literacy and format. But you get the point. XD )) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious_Pie 127 Share Posted February 5, 2012 That is all well and great and I commend you for your greatly written Lore and excellent in-character decision making. But the crux of your argument is faulty. You can have the best written lore and background story about how super amazing your elite fighting forces are and how you are fighting against a handful of peasants with pitchforks but if you fail win battles than clearly your army isn't so great. You have failed to recognize that, from reading earlier posts, your 'elite fighting forces' lost two of three battles. The wars and battles themselves are grounded in PVP combat. That is the deciding factor of who wins battles not the lore. So I assume that if this siege takes place and once again Renatus wins the battle you will just claim that ICly you had the better soldiers so Renatus would have realistically lost. The Teutonic Order won nigh every battle they engaged in before the addition of Skills, because they used tactics, but now, someone who shouldn't really be putting all their skills into Melee skills, have, tactics now barely do anything, as they are countered by perks of being a legend in a melee skill. I do like the stats plugin, but sadly, it has restricted the amount of width that can be used, when planning a battle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy 70 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Can this be locked? This is turning into a flamewar. We decided on teamspeak last night that this will not happen, that we will have plenty more skirmishes and that any sort of siege will not take place for maybe a month or more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKrinkles 2044 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Can this be locked? This is turning into a flamewar. We decided on teamspeak last night that this will not happen, that we will have plenty more skirmishes and that any sort of siege will not take place for maybe a month or more. Well, we got a general opinion it shouldn't happen. The whole nation shouldn't be at stake so soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylimo7 409 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Alright, whoever wants to do the next Skirmish, I am up for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
。◕‿‿◕。 Hawk Whitestorm 715 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Directing FM to lock... stand by... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taiga 764 Share Posted February 5, 2012 And... locked~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventh / Ryan 93 Share Posted February 5, 2012 And... locked~ I am moderating this. Don't lock it please. The war is through RP, it is to be continued. You brought it upon yourself. Saying you back out now, doesn't make sense through RP.~ --Seventh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylimo7 409 Share Posted February 5, 2012 We just agreed we'd cancel this and have more skirmishes before the final battle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 14254 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I am moderating this. Don't lock it please. The war is through RP, it is to be continued. You brought it upon yourself. Saying you back out now, doesn't make sense through RP.~ --Seventh The siege in the first place doesn't make sense. The war was supposed to have several skirmishes and raids before a siege on the nation that lost the most battles at the end of the war. Pok, Tarus and Samuel are supposed to agree on the battles and from earlier posts from Pok and Tarus, you can tell that both of them don't want the battle to go ahead. That's a majority vote. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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