Ursolon 197 Author Share Posted June 1, 2012 Salvus and its Peacekeepers had a reason to be attacked and conquered - they were a dangerous and criminal influence on the world of Asulon. Opinion. Our opinion is that there is an evil witch in the tower and we want her out. Also, we want to take advantage of the tower's current value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmrsmoothx 317 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Opinion. Our opinion is that there is an evil witch in the tower and we want her out. Also, we want to take advantage of the tower's current value. Unfortunately, the witch has done quite a bit of nothing, and the tower has very little value. In addition, this is a home, as opposed to a nation - as Brokencrowe stated, it is a very different matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
no longer active 734 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Guys, I don't think that a little RP from Ever playing as a witch will hurt. It could make it more fun! If all of Ursolon's men can't take down a simple tower then so be it! But stop complaining when she wants to defend the tower and use some "magic" which she hasn't even said she will use for sure yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursolon 197 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 Unfortunately, the witch has done quite a bit of nothing, and the tower has very little value. In addition, this is a home, as opposed to a nation - as Brokencrowe stated, it is a very different matter. Value as in the fact that it already exists. One of the 'options' Brokencrowe is referring to is the creation of a tower in another location. As I've said... several times, we don't wish to use our own minas or materials to construct another tower. Also, there are plenty of people who felt that the Ordinators and Queen Dawn had done nothing wrong. However, they are still gone. This is pretty much the exact same 'matter', just on a smaller scale. Edit: Guys, I don't think that a little RP from Ever playing as a witch will hurt. It could make it more fun! If all of Ursolon's men can't take down a simple tower then so be it! But stop complaining when she wants to defend the tower and use some "magic" which she hasn't even said she will use for sure yet. My main complaint about this is that Ever just "acquired" this character. One cannot hand over their character because they have decided to go inactive. Ever is planning on playing a character for one single night to join in on a war claim. This has happened so many times before with players suddenly creating new characters to join in on a war claim because their current character doesn't play any part in it. I am not sure if doing that is actually against the rules, but I know it's highly frowned upon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokencrowe 111 Share Posted June 2, 2012 And I believe the scales make all the difference here. I also admit this is an opinion, but, what it ultimately boils down to Ursolon is it is just a game. Your minas, and materials don't amount to much in the end. And taking a region from someone, their home seems a bit over the top, when they obviously dislike the notion, and do not have the means to adequately defend against your troops. In the case Salvus they had a chance to defend themselves, even if grossly out numbered, in this case it's even more a kin to slaughter. So I don't really see how the situations are comparable aside from base circumstances, but it is the core details that matter here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursolon 197 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 Their region is simply a place to house their minas and materials. I took part in the war on Salvus. THAT was a slaughter. Think of this more like an eviction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokencrowe 111 Share Posted June 2, 2012 The place obviously holds much sentimental value to the players, suggesting that it is only a place to house materials and minas seems a bit unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursolon 197 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 The place obviously holds much sentimental value to the players, suggesting that it is only a place to house materials and minas seems a bit unfair. What was Salvus? You think that an entire nation doesn't hold sentimental value to the players? With this argument, I could say that it's just a building in the woods. The building has been completely inactive for at least the past to weeks. Not until I put up this war claim have all these bleeding hearts revealed their supposed love for the building. Also, everyone seems to keep claiming that we are going to 'destroy' and 'dismantle' the tower. I've said, well this is the third time now, that we will not alter the outside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokencrowe 111 Share Posted June 2, 2012 As I stated before it's all about the scales, and simply because players have been inactive doesn't mean the place isn't important to them. What if they had some out of character situation made it hard for them to be active 100% of the time. And bleeding hearts? Just because people care to defend it, why do you have to lash out against us? Of course we're going to defend it when a war claim comes up. It's a natural response. I've also never suggested you were going to alter the insides, that has no basis in my argument. My argument is it is a home, and a place for roleplay for a handful of people. To take something so small from them seems a bit pointless and discourteous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmrsmoothx 317 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I'm afraid I must concede - there is in fact, no rule nor argument that should bar the assault of this land. Fortunately, it seems as though the small area that constitutes this tower's plot and the almost non-existent benefit it would provide to a town are both reason enough to completely step upon the emotional well-being of those two (Ever & SerahLove) whose land this is, as well as the desecration of the inside of their building, as well as the wrenching of it from their hands - and they did not even have to lift a finger to do it. That's right, they are gifted with the incredible roleplay of the conquest of their land, without even the need to aggravate those who are attacking. Unfortunately, it seems as though consent is required from the defending party in order for a war claim to be accepted, and it will not be offered - this amazing, completely not one-sided event cannot take place. Such a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursolon 197 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 A War Claim Team Member and/or Mogroka can give consent. Over ruling the defender. If war claims required the defender's consent, they wouldn't be required at all. The two parties would just make a post in the role play section that depicts what happened between them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokencrowe 111 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Has the team or Magroka given consent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursolon 197 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 Has the team or Magroka given consent? A verdict has not been given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokencrowe 111 Share Posted June 2, 2012 We can only wait and see then. My argument has been made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noahjam325 53 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Has the team or Magroka given consent? This thread has gone by so fast I doubt Mogroka has even seen it. It's only been up for less than day. He has until the listed attack date to get it approved. As to all this magic stuff. You can't use magic without it being approved first. If you just show up as a witch and start flinging spells, then it's considered powergaming. You need to make a well-developed post about your magic in the suggestions forum, and then have the magic team accept it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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