Kickstarted and Running 965 Share Posted June 2, 2012 From what I have seen, this seems fine. Maybe discuss terms with the owner though. And it makes perfect sens for you to take this, why would you leave a potential threat on your doorstep, and make a watchtower farther away? I, think this is fine. I will notify Mogroka/Seventh. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ricktador 1394 Share Posted June 2, 2012 He is looking at it at the time of this post so I'm sure we will see a verdict soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever 2648 Share Posted June 2, 2012 -snip- Because it's illogical to have a closer, lower elevation tower surrounded by trees versus a higher elevation tower, farther away, free from trees? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstarted and Running 965 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Because it's illogical to have a closer, lower elevation tower surrounded by trees versus a higher elevation tower, farther away, free from trees? Why would you leave a potential threat on your doorstep, and send troops farther away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ricktador 1394 Share Posted June 2, 2012 The point of the warclaim is that they in-character believe it is in a tactical position. Whether it is or not, they believe this in-character, so they will do what it takes to take it. Realistically, there is not much you can do without using magic, I do agree. Since it wouldn't make sense for anyone to fight for a witch without out-of-character influence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever 2648 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Why would you leave a potential threat on your doorstep, and send troops farther away? Everyone is arguing that the tower is empty. You can't say that it's a threat and that it's empty. And you don't send ALL your troops to a watch tower. That's just silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokencrowe 111 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Mind you, this is not a guild, or a faction but one or two people who live in the woods versus a town. It seems a out right shame to uproot someone's roleplay when the opposing faction has other options. How expensive is stone? It isn't that expensive of a resource to gather. Heck, if you came to the Nawari and requested it in roleplay I am sure they'd let you have a large sum of cobble, cause it's just flooding their coffers ;). Silliness aside, my point lays in the utter lack of consent. It's not a nation, not a town, nor guild, it's a home for a couple of people. Seizing it seems a little bit more than unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstarted and Running 965 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Everyone is arguing that the tower is empty. You can't say that it's a threat and that it's empty. And you don't send ALL your troops to a watch tower. That's just silly. I never said all my troops. And if it is empty, there should be no problem taking it. EDIT: I meant troops in general, not my troops. Hell, I ain't even a Dwarf. Smelly midgets... <3 Ursolon XOXO :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursolon 197 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 Well, Brokencrowe, you're right, it is just a home for a few people. However, if you look at the conquest claims on other cities, towns, and villages, most of the time it is to remove them. Thus, destroying the homes of players. So, essentially all conquest claims are a "little more than unfair." Also, as I've said again and again and again, we're not only in it for the fact that it's a tower in the woods. We'd like to create a square, connecting Ursakar to the Great Hall, the hall to the ruins and the ruins to the tower and finally, linking the tower to Ursakar. Creating a network of paths allowing the noble family to move freely without having to deal with whatever is going on up above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokencrowe 111 Share Posted June 2, 2012 My argument would be the same for them, but I have never really chosen to look into this forum before now. I think it's silly to be able to uproot people's roleplay without consent. And I understand your argument, but it's obviously upsetting Ever. You should make the choice that makes everyone happier and not just yourself. That's what roleplaying is all about, in my opinion. For the mutual benefit of all. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstarted and Running 965 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Like I said, discuss something via PMs, while keeping this warclaim up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursolon 197 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 Like I said, discuss something via PMs, while keeping this warclaim up. I tried to discuss giving it up without this war claim with Ever but he simply told me that neither he nor the real owner would give consent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstarted and Running 965 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I tried to discuss giving it up without this war claim with Ever but she simply told me that neither her nor the real owner would give consent. Well that sucks for him. You got Admin approval, and you have perfect RP to do this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokencrowe 111 Share Posted June 2, 2012 The discussion taking place, I feel, is very relevant to the war claim, and the war claim process in general. I find it overly harsh really, uprooting someone from their home, a place they've inhabited since late January. I can only sit back however, and wait for Mogroka's final word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickstarted and Running 965 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I will tell him to get on it in TS. He often goes AFK. Please refrain from posting until he reaches his verdict. Thanks guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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