Kal'Alras

[kozeljko 0]

I be sellin' a fully furnished home fer 3000 minas. That be the cheapest house to me knowledge

Mate, if ya would be online at some times, there would be about 3 offers for da house. Cant imagine, you still didnt sell it, after all the interest for da house. Make a deal with Lord Baron, so he gives you 3000 minas and he then sells the house, or it will remain empty for a long time.

[Dalek348 1962]

zuluman, be that the house in Valley View? Or in the housing district?

[zuluman 79]

Mate, if ya would be online at some times, there would be about 3 offers for da house. Cant imagine, you still didnt sell it, after all the interest for da house. Make a deal with Lord Baron, so he gives you 3000 minas and he then sells the house, or it will remain empty for a long time.

I had a busy weekend... i'm usually on a lot. I was under the impression that I could not sell it to the Lord Baron and had to sell it privately

The house be part of the housin' district, on de first floor

[Algoda 885]

We are building a great looking minecart system, so of ye are lookin' fer job, talk te me!

[Daverdare 0]

The Mystical Forest looks awesome! Great job!

But 954 Minas per Week is really a big amount of minas.

Thanks for appreciating my work.And I know it's extremly expensive.But I cant help you with that one anymore.I got thrown out of town for some stupid reason.algoda tried to act alpha with his buddys.I don't really see any future for a town who handels their builders like that.Whatever,it's not really my problem.I put work into it,no credits,also lost a good amount of money for buying all that wool and cole for smelting the stones.I personally would not go back there,especially as one of them broke the LoC rules by randomly attacking me for ooc reasons.

[Algoda 885]

Thanks for appreciating my work.And I know it's extremly expensive.But I cant help you with that one anymore.I got thrown out of town for some stupid reason.algoda tried to act alpha with his buddys.I don't really see any future for a town who handels their builders like that.Whatever,it's not really my problem.I put work into it,no credits,also lost a good amount of money for buying all that wool and cole for smelting the stones.I personally would not go back there,especially as one of them broke the LoC rules by randomly attacking me for ooc reasons.

ooc: Oh my god. You havent learned a bit...

You were so into that you were right so you forgot that this is an RP, if you dont do as youre superior says you to do, and keep arguing in hours, i will eventually lose it and throw you out. I gave you 1000 chances to stop, but you really wanted to prove to everyone that you were not just a "funny guy with funny jokes" but that the 5 people that were on my side was idiots.

And about the ooc reasons, i have no idea what you are talking about. Innkeeper gaius (something) hit you 1-2 times with his fist after i told you to stop arguing, that its end of discussion. Since his character is a dwarf, and dwarfs have temperement, he played as if his charachter got mad.

And i gave you credits, i wanted to give you payment, but you wanted 20000 minas, nothing less.

So please stop, you are just embarrasing yourself.

[Daverdare 0]

Oh my god. You havent learned a bit...

And here we go...

You were so into that you were right so you forgot that this is an RP, if you dont do as youre superior says you to do, and keep arguing in hours, i will eventually lose it and throw you out.

I had the right to argue.The only one who was helping with this stuff was rasun.And he just helped me digging.The rest was all done by one person.And guess what?It was me.So stop playing the smart ass and start seeing that it was a lot of work.I could have just went mining,getting diamonds or hunting monsters.Instead I earned zero money and created this corridor so you could get some people into town.Also I was the only active trader.Whenever someone needed something I left the tunnel and selled some of my armors or materials.Some people just visited the town because they could get some cheap leather armor.Well played algoda...well played.

I gave you 1000 chances to stop, but you really wanted to prove to everyone that you were not just a "funny guy with funny jokes" but that the 5 people that were on my side was idiots.

Learn to count.There were 2 people on your side,starting to harase me.One of those chipmunks hit me with his sword just for fun.There were some people visiting this town later on,also acting stupid,just because you were the majority.I don't care if you guys are not able to use logic thinking.I build something.I spent time,materials and money.And if someone is moving in you get the money for the homes.Even if you dont get the money from selling the homes,you still get taxes.And thats the point.

Innkeeper gaius (something) hit you 1-2 times with his fist after i told you to stop arguing, that its end of discussion. Since his character is a dwarf, and dwarfs have temperement, he played as if his charachter got mad.

No,it is not allowed to randomly hit other players.There is a simple reason for that one.You could never know how much HP your opponent has left.If you think you can play mister ignorant...whatever.Not my problem.But you screwed up your own town.As I told you,I was one of the active players,always supporting the town,helping new people and expanding the city.

And i gave you credits, i wanted to give you payment, but you wanted 20000 minas, nothing less.

uhm...how about...no?

I was making fun.The only thing I needed was some payment for the money I had to spend.If you would have opened your eyes I also created some anvils for the luxury homes and had to use some burning material aswell.And of course some wool for the carpet.I actually wrote down what I had to use.So even if you didn't build and spend time on creating this corridor I needed some support for my work.The main reason why you started getting cocky was because your buddy started getting mad and swanking about his golden bridge (yes,so much work for placing those blocks...good job little boy).

So please stop, you are just embarrasing yourself.

Do you really think I give a crap what you and your little dogs think about me?If you ask people who actually visited the town without being one of your personal pets,you see that I done a lot of work.I already got some messages from people,trying to get one of the luxery homes,some of them even thought I was the owner of this city because I was building 24/7.

And then you want to tell me that I won't open my mouth when someone is playing the decadent lord.

[Lym 849]

ooc: Ok guys, calm down.

Thanks for building these beautiful rooms and houses! Awesome job!

We are building a great looking minecart system, so of ye are lookin' fer job, talk te me!

Hm, I would like to apply, because I'm waiting for my next job (tax collector!)

I already had a look inside the tracks at Whisper Isle and in Kal'Alras and I want to help. I also can pay for the reserved room today.

ooc: Sorry, I'm in a hurry and hadn't much time to write it in dwarvish hehe.

[Algoda 885]

I had the right to argue.The only one who was helping with this stuff was rasun.And he just helped me digging.The rest was all done by one person.And guess what?It was me.So stop playing the smart ass and start seeing that it was a lot of work.I could have just went mining,getting diamonds or hunting monsters.Instead I earned zero money and created this corridor so you could get some people into town.Also I was the only active trader.Whenever someone needed something I left the tunnel and selled some of my armors or materials.Some people just visited the town because they could get some cheap leather armor.Well played algoda...well played.

I never said that you dont have the rights to argue, you just need to learn when to stop, when everyone in the near vicinity keep telling you that you are a ignorant little prick who thinks that you are right all the time.

AND! I know what you did, some of the houses looks good. And you did have to sacrifice much materials. BUT as stated, i did offer you payment but you, and its more than just 2 that are on my side on this one, wanted more, and 20000 minas is NOT worth it. You keep saying that you were joking, but its fun that you only started saying that after i got mad.

Learn to count.There were 2 people on your side,starting to harase me.One of those chipmunks hit me with his sword just for fun.There were some people visiting this town later on,also acting stupid,just because you were the majority.I don't care if you guys are not able to use logic thinking.I build something.I spent time,materials and money.And if someone is moving in you get the money for the homes.Even if you dont get the money from selling the homes,you still get taxes.And thats the point.

So you think that building lots of empty houses gives my taxes? Just so you know, people that lives in the houses are the ones that pays minas, not the houses itself...

uhm...how about...no?

I was making fun.The only thing I needed was some payment for the money I had to spend.If you would have opened your eyes I also created some anvils for the luxury homes and had to use some burning material aswell.And of course some wool for the carpet.I actually wrote down what I had to use.So even if you didn't build and spend time on creating this corridor I needed some support for my work.The main reason why you started getting cocky was because your buddy started getting mad and swanking about his golden bridge (yes,so much work for placing those blocks...good job little boy).

Yeah i guess that you had very fun then *******, but i did not have the slightest fun, and you should have seen that. And as stated, i did offer you minas and diamonds, but you wanted more. I even said that if you dont stop arguing i would not pay anything, but you still kept going... not so smart was it?

The main reason why you started getting cocky was because your buddy started getting mad and swanking about his golden bridge

No the main reason to why i got irritated and angry was that you accused me of having no balls and only argued back because i had people on my side. That really goes on my nerves.

Do you really think I give a crap what you and your little dogs think about me?If you ask people who actually visited the town without being one of your personal pets,you see that I done a lot of work.I already got some messages from people,trying to get one of the luxery homes,some of them even thought I was the owner of this city because I was building 24/7.

And then you want to tell me that I won't open my mouth when someone is playing the decadent lord.

Oh well, since some persons thought you were the leader when you just built the underground area, i must hand over my city to you.

Do you seriously think that no people had visited the town before you started building? Kal'Alras has been a project for more than a week, you were only there the last days. More than a couple of people and more than a couple of messages about houses have come to me, so dont think that you had more authority than i did. You were just a simple builder, nothing more, nothing less. I dont really understand the last sentence (bad at english) but i have never said that you arent allowed to speak at all. What i said was, after 30 minutes or so, that its end of discussion.

And lastly i just want to point out, that you started the whole project without my approval. One night you were just a blacksmith that just moved in, and the other you had named yourself the towns head architect and mines out a big, uneven undergroun market thingy. If you had come to me before you started to build, this whole situation would not have happened. And if you would have started by asking me, i would not have approved the underground market, because we were planning on expaning above grounds. But then it seemed that rasun and you were building so i thought why not, i can let this be and afterwards see how it looks.

If you see the government system for the dwarfs, i am not obliged to pay dwellers for building for me, especially when doing so without my permission.

No,it is not allowed to randomly hit other players.There is a simple reason for that one.You could never know how much HP your opponent has left.If you think you can play mister ignorant...whatever.Not my problem.But you screwed up your own town.As I told you,I was one of the active players,always supporting the town,helping new people and expanding the city.

Yes you have the right to hit players, if you have RP reasons. As i have said, his RP reason were that a human kept arguing with a Lord Baron of the dwarfs, even after i said that if you dont stop arguing, i will put you in jail.

Now if you STILL want to continue this, PM me on the forum instead of posting here.

[Algoda 885]

ooc: Ok guys, calm down.

Thanks for building these beautiful rooms and houses! Awesome job!

Hm, I would like to apply, because I'm waiting for my next job (tax collector!)

I already had a look inside the tracks at Whisper Isle and in Kal'Alras and I want to help. I also can pay for the reserved room today.

ooc: Sorry, I'm in a hurry and hadn't much time to write it in dwarvish hehe.

Very good, talk to me ingame for permissions and stuff!

[Daverdare 0]

I never said that you dont have the rights to argue, you just need to learn when to stop, when everyone in the near vicinity keep telling you that you are a ignorant little prick who thinks that you are right all the time.

Everyone?It was just your ts buddys (or whatever programm you used).Do you think I care if your friends tell me to stop?Of course they do?They would also tell me that I have to stop arguing if you were just burning down my house.

AND! I know what you did, some of the houses looks good. And you did have to sacrifice much materials. BUT as stated, i did offer you payment but you, and its more than just 2 that are on my side on this one, wanted more, and 20000 minas is NOT worth it. You keep saying that you were joking, but its fun that you only started saying that after i got mad.

You offered me 1000 minas and a few diamonds.I could have easily taken this offer.But I told you that I want nothing.Why?Because Forel (I don't know if this is his name,but it's something like that) started getting aggresive and breaking the LoC rules.If you can't controll someone like that,you can't lead a town.Well,you told him that he should stop,but only because you thought that he could get banned.This werer ooc reasons.Of course he would stop if the wizard would ban him for killing me (thinking he knows everything and using the logic of an octopus is unfortunately not a act which can be banned,but randomly attacking is.Even if his ooc insults were more annoying than his hits)

So you think that building lots of empty houses gives my taxes? Just so you know, people that lives in the houses are the ones that pays minas, not the houses itself...

This is a loss of reality my friend.If you hire a architect in reality,those don't get payed when people move in.They get payed for their work.And by the way,I already told you that I have a huge amount of privat messages of people asking that I should arrange one of those homes for them.And don't start lying with "empty houses".The little homes are empty because they are small.They can be customiced by the owner because they don't have much freedom with space.The big homes are full of detail.I put chests in it,an anvil,a pool,a library etc.

Yeah i guess that you had very fun then *******, but i did not have the slightest fun, and you should have seen that. And as stated, i did offer you minas and diamonds, but you wanted more. I even said that if you dont stop arguing i would not pay anything, but you still kept going... not so smart was it?

uhm...again...just no.In the moment you made the offer I stopped arguing at all.I told you that I was joking with 20000 minas.But your friend Forel just couldn't shut his mouth and kept harasing me,even some in character racism (which is totally fine if this wouldn't be based on ooc reasons).

No the main reason to why i got irritated and angry was that you accused me of having no balls and only argued back because i had people on my side. That really goes on my nerves.

Wrong.You already were mad way before I even got annoyed by Forel.At one point I saw that this situation could have been different if those people stopped encouraging you to play the allmighty souvereign

Oh well, since some persons thought you were the leader when you just built the underground area, i must hand over my city to you.

That was not a point of my reasoning.I just told you that as some additonal information.

Do you seriously think that no people had visited the town before you started building? Kal'Alras has been a project for more than a week, you were only there the last days.

So?I don't see your point.As I said,people contacted me.I don't know why,I can just suggest that they thought I was responsible for the new homes.And I was responisble,but just as a builder,not as a landlord.

You were just a simple builder, nothing more, nothing less. I dont really understand the last sentence (bad at english) but i have never said that you arent allowed to speak at all. What i said was, after 30 minutes or so, that its end of discussion.

There was never a real discussion.It was just Forel getting mad,you starting to take everything way too serious and me getting annoyed by someone who trys to explain me "economy" with troll physics.To be honest,I don't really was pissed off by you.You were acting quiet mature,at the beggining.In contrast,Forel was mad at me from the very first sentence I wrote.And that started this whole dispute.Quiet absurd,isn't it?

And lastly i just want to point out, that you started the whole project without my approval. One night you were just a blacksmith that just moved in, and the other you had named yourself the towns head architect and mines out a big, uneven undergroun market thingy.

I wasn't responsible for the market.Rasun started this project.When you joined the server,you simply stated that this town needs more homes.I then told you that I could build a corridor near that wall.You were okay with it.

If you had come to me before you started to build, this whole situation would not have happened. And if you would have started by asking me, i would not have approved the underground market, because we were planning on expaning above grounds. But then it seemed that rasun and you were building so i thought why not, i can let this be and afterwards see how it looks.

Just be honest.It looks great.I don't want to be larking,but I had a plan.I have some sketches of the corridor right here.I've planned this project before I started simply digging out that stuff.You can see that in every building I created.It should fit to the dwarvish style,should look pleasent and have enough room for new citizens.And I completed this task without even damaging anything that was above the face of the earth.So people would be surprised if they move in and see that this city actually has an underground system.

If you see the government system for the dwarfs, i am not obliged to pay dwellers for building for me, especially when doing so without my permission.

It was not a payment.I just needed money back for the materials.I also work as a blacksmith.And I have to buy some materials like diamonds from other players.So if I am out of money because I used those materials,I need someone who is supporting me.

Yes you have the right to hit players, if you have RP reasons. As i have said, his RP reason were that a human kept arguing with a Lord Baron of the dwarfs, even after i said that if you dont stop arguing, i will put you in jail.

You guys griefed my shop with blocks,Forel started attacking me way before you got angry.That has nothing to do with RP,that has to do with an exaggerated opinion of oneself.

Now if you STILL want to continue this, PM me on the forum instead of posting here.

I made my point.It is the right of everyone in this forum to read this and to agree or disagree with me.This could also have some potential for some RP storys (the architect who got thrown out after finishing his masterpiece).People could base their storys around this incident.I am not here to get my payment from you.I am here to clarify this situation as some people already asked me why I moved out.

[Algoda 885]

sorry im too lazy to write about this **** :( But one thing i do want to tell you about, is that no one in my town has ever done anything to you thats bannable or that is out of ooc (I only said that so no admin or GM or whatever would think that). But as we clearly have completely different opinions about this, we should stop this argument.

[Simppa 25]

I agree, stop that. If you want to continue, do it via private messages. This is topic about Kal'Aras, not about your argument.

[Daverdare 0]

@algoda

A blank statement without any real arguments?Nice comment.

At least write me an pm and react to what I've written earlier.

@Simppa

There will be no additonal episode on this "humorous remark" of algoda. I've more or less finished.

[Algoda 885]

If you read my post, you would have seen that i posted it so no admins would fall for it.