A Question Regarding Antags

[RK9ify 86]

I've heard people saying that antags aren't going to exist in 4.0. So, does that mean that there won't be any antags at all in 4.0, or are new antags going to be introduced?

[Eleatic 1033]

I believe they mean that Harbs are leaving, not full-on antag removal. I do think that staff should give support to PLAYER-ANTAGS, created by players and not staff, instead of making a full blown staff-antag again though.

[RK9ify 86]

I believe they mean that Harbs are leaving, not full-on antag removal. I do think that staff should give support to PLAYER-ANTAGS, created by players and not staff, instead of making a full blown staff-antag again though.

Ah. Thanks for clearing it up. :)

And I do agree with your second statement; it'll be so much more fun if we saw more regular players as antags.

[hjgklmn0ajuvxc 688]

hmmm intresting

[SparehoeCakes 547]

I think they will have an antag in 4.0. Probably a different once by the way it seems but I don't know.

[Emp 209]

I don't feel that there's anything wrong with a staff-organised antagonist. Being something that would (presumably) terrorise the whole realm, moderation is essential for effectiveness. And with a 'staff-antag', it provides an opportunity for the whole server to get behind it.

 

Also, I presume there'd be a great deal more strife where there's no authority.

 

But then, one doesn't need to be part of the main antagonist to be an evil character, so I can't agree with those who call for 'player-antags'.  You don't need a permit to organise a group like the Flays; stop complaining, waiting for the ET to force RP down your throat, or criticising the antag players, and make the RP you want to see.

[RK9ify 86]

I don't feel that there's anything wrong with a staff-organised antagonist. Being something that would (presumably) terrorise the whole realm, moderation is essential for effectiveness. And with a 'staff-antag', it provides an opportunity for the whole server to get behind it.

 

Also, I presume there'd be a great deal more strife where there's no authority.

 

But then, one doesn't need to be part of the main antagonist to be an evil character, so I can't agree with those who call for 'player-antags'.  You don't need a permit to organise a group like the Flays; stop complaining, waiting for the ET to force RP down your throat, or criticising the antag players, and make the RP you want to see.

I'm not saying that antag groups shouldn't be run by GM's. I'm just saying that regular players should also be given an opportunity to join these groups. Make it a little easier to join these groups. And yes, you don't have to be part of a group to have an evil character, but it certainly makes RP much more interesting. And I'm not criticizing the antags, either. Antags are just fine the way they are.

 

Also, I didn't mean to make some sort of argument. I just wanted to know whether antags are going to be implemented in 4.0 or not. 

[Emp 209]

I'm not saying that antag groups shouldn't be run by GM's. I'm just saying that regular players should also be given an opportunity to join these groups. Make it a little easier to join these groups. And yes, you don't have to be part of a group to have an evil character, but it certainly makes RP much more interesting. And I'm not criticizing the antags, either. Antags are just fine the way they are.

 

Also, I didn't mean to make some sort of argument. I just wanted to know whether antags are going to be implemented in 4.0 or not. 

 

Sorry, I was referring to the points raised in other posts, since your question had been answered :)

[RK9ify 86]

Sorry, I was referring to the points raised in other posts, since your question had been answered :)

Oh, my bad. :p

[Samson Option 9652]

Undead.

[ScreamingDingo 20568]

Yeah, I've heard along the grapevine that 4.0 is Aegis reboot, which sickens me slightly. If people are going to have antags, they need to not be shallow meatbags.

[RK9ify 86]

Undead.

I heard great things about the undead. I hope the new antags provide the same experience. :)

[Raptorious 1899]

I do think that staff should give support to PLAYER-ANTAGS, created by players and not staff, instead of making a full blown staff-antag again though.

[monkeypoacher 8055]

There aren't harbingers or scourge anymore (because y'know, there isn't a Setherien), but there will be an antagonist. 

[Mankaar 166]

Yeye, Let's be honest here the Undead are returning there is ample evidence to support the claim.. Staff supported or mainly player oriented I would hope the Et allows more actual players to join them then Et's taking up roleplaying most of the antag.