Steel Or Iron?

[Lark 2227]

I have to agree with Aislin here, but with less profanity. Honestly its just the name of it, nothing more. It does not make it stronger in MC, and you could say that is the same in RP to, it just adds more variety to RP. I still RP "Black Iron" all the time, claiming in RP that it is "10x Stronger then normal Iron!!" when in point of fact.... it is not. Its just something to add more flavor to the RP experience.

 

Exactly, hence why I'm trying to get this figured out.

[Jistuma 1996]

Considering the mechanical standard and the post that has been archieved about time and periods, steel is fully allowed.

 

I never thought this was a problem. Enjoy steel weapons whoever you want, if it follows mech standard, which iron weapons do, then it'd perfectly alright. I have seen roleplay of steel being the weapons with enchants on (the enchanting table ones), perhaps that can be done as well, enjoy and do as you like.

 

[edit] Oh, you can call them other stuff, since it's LOTC and it's not iron, it's ferrarum (I think? Might be spelled differently), so new names for steel are fine as well, and more interesting.

[Rhia 936]

 

Steel is just a carbon-based alloy , from what I know. You should be able to make it with some RP experimentation.

 

 

Everything on this planet, as far as we know, is Carbon-Based. 

 

Considering the mechanical standard and the post that has been archieved about time and periods, steel is fully allowed.

 

I never thought this was a problem. Enjoy steel weapons whoever you want, if it follows mech standard, which iron weapons do, then it'd perfectly alright. I have seen roleplay of steel being the weapons with enchants on, perhaps that can be done as well, enjoy and do as you like.

 

I'm not sure how the mechanical standard applies to this at all.... The mechanical standard means if you can do it in MC you can do it in RP. Steel is not in minecraft yet.

 

I'll ask the admins and other GMs... as steel is common now a days but was a huge advancement back in the day. 

[Jistuma 1996]

I'm not sure how the mechanical standard applies to this at all.... The mechanical standard means if you can do it in MC you can do it in RP. Steel is not in minecraft yet..

If you can represent it in MC, not do it in MC. If it was do it, no oranges, grapes, any fruits besides the MC ones could exist. Or animals. Or materials, such as copper, zinc, silver, etc etc.

If something can be demonstrated through MC, it can be rp'ed. But just to confirm this to you, I'll quote the Mech standard thread found here: http://www.lordofthecraft.net/topic/101743-the-lore-mechanical-standard/

"If your armour is Iron Armour, you can RP it as whatever you like, from simple plate to armour made from the bones of your enemies and blessed by a necromancer. So long as what the armour is RPed does not break the lore mechanical standard, it is perfectly alright. If your sword uses an Iron Sword Item, you can say it's whatever you like, from a dagger to a greatsword bigger than you are to a sword that talks. You could RP it as a cursed sword that drives the wielder insane. However, if this sword instantly kills whoever it touches, then it no longer obeys the lore mechanical standard, as it would have to be a sword that does 40 hearts of damage, and no GM in their right mind would hand those out. (Not to say that you can't claim it instantly kills in character in order to sell it to an unsuspecting adventurer...)"

I think that should be enough.

[Lago 2572]

Metal lore eh? Primary metal Lore Monkey reporting in.

For those of you who don't know what the difference between steel and iron IRL is and are interested, steel's an iron alloy. It's primarily iron, but it's got other metals like chromium and manganese in it to make it stronger and more durable.

 

 

As for LotC, what's the answer to the question "steel or iron"?

The OOC Answer
Whatever you want it to be.

 

It's iron, it's steel, it's skahiron, it's dwarf-metal and for the snow elves it's magic ice with thanhium in it or something.

 

This is a prime example of how the Mechstandard rules work. The object in question is a grey Minecraft ingot. No amount of emotes will change that. It will still make armour and weapons of the same strength. It's being standardised by mechanics, and thus no need to slap any more rules on it. Minecraft has that handled. This means you can RP it as whatever you want to. If you want to claim OOC it's indestructible Powergamium, nobody's stopping you. You'll still die to three iron clad bandits.

 

I'm guessing "go make it up yourself" isn't the droids answer most people are looking for here. While there are no lore rules as to what you can RP grey metal as, there's plenty of RP and lore to draw from if you want your metal RP to be consistent with server history and what most other people RP. So here is -
 

The IC Answer

Steel. Usually.

 

• Humans: Steel. As far as I know it was developed in response to the proliferation of skahiron by the orcs. It's never been established what the alloying agents are, but I'd hazard a guess its small amounts of carbarum (the diamond metal). Humans are numerous and carbaurum isn't, so it makes sense they'd go with 100 good suits of armour rather than 10 excellent ones and 90 creator-awful ones.
• Orcs: Skahiron. It's a carbon steel, if you want to look on Wikipedia. The orcs make it using cow dung, hence the name.
• Dwarves: Dwarven metal. Whether that's a special metal or an alloy only the dwarven smiths know its unknown. What is known is that they've been making it long before the orcs even thought of skahiron and it's still tough enough to take on any Fringe-era steel weapon. The dwarves are good at smithing, and they don't hand out their secrets lightly.
• High Elves: Whitesteel. Like the dwarves, unknown if it's a different metal or an alloy. The High Elven Smiths aren't about to give it away. Can hold its own against the other races' metals and on top of that it's reaaaaal shiny.
• Snow Elves: Coldsteel. It's not even metal, it's ice, thanhium and magic. Pretty much stahlrim. Just don't melt it and drink it because thanhium is probably one of the most toxic things in LotC. That, and it drives you insane.

[Lark 2227]

 

Metal lore eh? Primary metal Lore Monkey reporting in.

For those of you who don't know what the difference between steel and iron IRL is and are interested, steel's an iron alloy. It's primarily iron, but it's got other metals like chromium and manganese in it to make it stronger and more durable.

 

 

As for LotC, what's the answer to the question "steel or iron"?

The OOC Answer

Whatever you want it to be.

 

It's iron, it's steel, it's skahiron, it's dwarf-metal and for the snow elves it's magic ice with thanhium in it or something.

 

This is a prime example of how the Mechstandard rules work. The object in question is a grey Minecraft ingot. No amount of emotes will change that. It will still make armour and weapons of the same strength. It's being standardised by mechanics, and thus no need to slap any more rules on it. Minecraft has that handled. This means you can RP it as whatever you want to. If you want to claim OOC it's indestructible Powergamium, nobody's stopping you. You'll still die to three iron clad bandits.

 

I'm guessing "go make it up yourself" isn't the droids answer most people are looking for here. While there are no lore rules as to what you can RP grey metal as, there's plenty of RP and lore to draw from if you want your metal RP to be consistent with server history and what most other people RP. So here is -

 

The IC Answer

Steel. Usually.

 

• Humans: Steel. As far as I know it was developed in response to the proliferation of skahiron by the orcs. It's never been established what the alloying agents are, but I'd hazard a guess its small amounts of carbarum (the diamond metal). Humans are numerous and carbaurum isn't, so it makes sense they'd go with 100 good suits of armour rather than 10 excellent ones and 90 creator-awful ones.
• Orcs: Skahiron. It's a carbon steel, if you want to look on Wikipedia. The orcs make it using cow dung, hence the name.
• Dwarves: Dwarven metal. Whether that's a special metal or an alloy only the dwarven smiths know its unknown. What is known is that they've been making it long before the orcs even thought of skahiron and it's still tough enough to take on any Fringe-era steel weapon. The dwarves are good at smithing, and they don't hand out their secrets lightly.
• High Elves: Whitesteel. Like the dwarves, unknown if it's a different metal or an alloy. The High Elven Smiths aren't about to give it away. Can hold its own against the other races' metals and on top of that it's reaaaaal shiny.
• Snow Elves: Coldsteel. It's not even metal, it's ice, thanhium and magic. Pretty much stahlrim. Just don't melt it and drink it because thanhium is probably one of the most toxic things in LotC. That, and it drives you insane.

 

 

So I can call metal steel? Excuse me while I rename Dragon Iron to Dragon Steel....

[Lago 2572]

Yes. You can make Larkinium Dragonsteel. Just don't tell people it's dragonbone because they'll totally believe you.

[Jistuma 1996]

So I can call metal steel? Excuse me while I rename Dragon Iron to Dragon Steel....

You can call it whatever you want. (Just don't break other server rules)

[Lark 2227]

You can call it whatever you want. (Just don't break other server rules)

 

its for mostly for technology...>:)

[Dreek 1633]

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