Tigergiri 3073 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Spoiler We are at that point, ladies and gentlemen where I don't want to hold on to this document any longer. For the past year( two years) I've been compiling all my elven knowledge into one bigger document. Yes, its going to have repeated words from other forum posts. Yes, you are going to see strange things. And yes it has been checked over by our very own @Aethling at one point. Thanks for that bby btw. If you like to add on to it, friends of malinor. Go for it! Ill take it upon my self to edit it into here. With that said welcome to my elvish for dummies. Elvish for dummies: a document I've held on to for the past year and a half. People will yell at you if you call it elvish but ill take that brunt for you bro. Structuring sentences:subject-object-verb ex: that dog fluffy tail has ‘ as a junction between words or a comma. Adjective comes AFTER the noun! - Large Elf <--- plain English structure we all know and love - Elf'large <-- English words structured corrected in Elven grammar ehya :meaning but, and Mali'ker Maliame'ehya : dark elves and wood elves. Heya' is a question. It is used for all: what, how, who etc being followed by the subject in question. Heya'mali would be which elf... (as in who did this? 'This' would need to be specified otherwise the sentence is incomplete.) Flying commas are your friend. Friendly sentences: Ame Velulaei’ehya nae ahererih - My the forest protect and the Moon bless. oromente'yem meaning "meet again" lye tenna oromente'yem for "until we meet again.” Greetings and goodbyes Good morning -karin'ayla Goodnight – Ker’ayla Good bye – Van’ayla Hiylu'evar: Traditional greeting. (Doubles as a blessing with the assumption that the receiver has been kept healthy in body and spirit.) Family Terms Mother- Haelun Son- malii’mal Daughter- malii’lari: Child- Malii (or Mali'ii) Uncle- Malnonn Aunt- Haelunonn Sister- Lari’onn Little sister-Lari’onnii Brother- mal’onn Little brother -mal’onnii ((ciyu/liyur is out dated dont be using ignore this) Male Cousin- Ciyutonn Female Cousin- Liyuronn Nephew- Ciyut'onn Niece- Liyur'onn Sister- Liyur Brother- Ciyut Grandfather- Marmaln Grandmother- Marhaelun (alternative primitive way) Kae'leh :grandmother maln'leh: grandfather Great/grand(everything else)- Ma______ (mar- and ma- means the same thing, the only difference is that ma- is used if the root word has been given a prefix or suffix) Sense of time & space sunset/night -Ker day, but also sunrise. -karinah high noon-Talikarinah highest moon -Taliker Sun-asul Star-celia The moon goddess/ Moon-Velulaei Karim - Fortday - 72 Days in-game - The measure of time from one wake from a sleeping cycle to the next wake ((RL calendar day)) Tarem - Elven Week - 2 years 16 days in-game - The time it is observed in which elves are equally awake and asleep seven cycles ((RL calendar week)) Kalem - Malin's Year - 107 years 5 months 20 days - The length of reign a High Prince has before another election is held. ((RL calendar year) Heya'tal'ker - what time of night? Heya'tal'karinah is what time of day? Numbers 1 oem 2 niut 3 hael 4 vailu 5 kulin 6 banih 7 laier 8 esun 9 moiel 10 telu 100 matelu [ma-(mar-) a preffix for 'very'] 1000 marmatelu Much like the grammatical structure, numbers are structured similarly to japanese for double digits and beyond (i.e three-onehundred-five-ten-four). ----> ' <--- is used to link a number with its value for 10, 100 and 1000. So 14 (fourteen) is moiel vailu [10.4] 54 (fifty four) is kulin'telu vailu [5.10.4] 354 (three hundred fifty four) is hael'matelu kulin'telu vailu [3.100.5.10.4] Tigers often used words Vileyah: Respectful noun for woman. For ladies of nobility or dear friends. Llir-Friend Igne: Flames mayilun:Love maehr'sae: Progress lun :health fiyem:Reborn bida To drink illern-Gift (use this way for childish or learning -->)Liiller'lle:gift Sirame (with rolling 'r'): Honour and connection to the forest. It is unwise to offend an elf's sirame. Hileia: peace Omenta means "meet" Aelor:Evil, or Beastly, Aca:cursed Tali- a part of hope this helps peace out scrubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luciloo 2680 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Quote Ame evareh Velulaei ahereh'ehya - My the forest protect and the Moon bless. This should read “Ame Velulaei’ehya nae ahererih” Quote ehya : as and *suffix* would go at the end of the sentence. This is incorrect, as a suffix it goes at the end of the word with an apostrophe. Used at the beginning of a sentence, it means “but.” Quote Heya' (always used with an apostrophe) This is also incorrect. Nowhere in the grammatical rules does it state that an apostrophe is required. Heya is a catch-all for “who, what, when why,” we have to use context and non-verbal queues in order to distinguish which we’re specifically concerned with. Quote ((ciyu/liyur is out dated dont be using unless your 900+ elf. )) They were replaced to be more consistent with the phonetics of Elven. It’s better to ignore them than to suggest only certain people may use these words. Quote Sun-Taeyulaei “Asul” is Sun Quote mayilu:Love “Mayilu” is a stem word, it means nothing on its own and requires affixes to make sense. Instead one should use “mayilun” lit. “Beloved” Quote Liiller'lle:gift This is clumsy. Instead I use “illern” for “gift,” derived from the verb iller “to give” and with an -n suffix to indicate a noun. It’s much less awkward to use. Quote Ker‘Tali’Valah’ame: Half human half dark elf This is even clumsier. The distinction between a Half-Elf with human heritage and a Half-Elf with any other kind of heritage can be indicated by either saying “Mali’tal ito hae’leh” or “She is a Half-Elf” where it’s relevant to refer to one’s Elven heritage, or “Tali’Valah ito hae’leh” for “She is Half-Human” where such is relevant to refer to. Making needlessly complicated words is where everyone trips themselves up w/r to lotc Elven. It’s unnecessary, don’t overcomplicate things when language has all sort of non-verbal queues from one’s surroundings, tone of voice, hand-gestures etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigergiri 3073 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, Aethling said: This should read “Ame Velulaei’ehya nae ahererih” This is incorrect, as a suffix it goes at the end of the word with an apostrophe. Used at the beginning of a sentence, it means “but.” This is also incorrect. Nowhere in the grammatical rules does it state that an apostrophe is required. Heya is a catch-all for “who, what, when why,” we have to use context and non-verbal queues in order to distinguish which we’re specifically concerned with. They were replaced to be more consistent with the phonetics of Elven. It’s better to ignore them than to suggest only certain people may use these words. “Asul” is Sun “Mayilu” is a stem word, it means nothing on its own and requires affixes to make sense. Instead one should use “mayilun” lit. “Beloved” This is clumsy. Instead I use “illern” for “gift,” derived from the verb iller “to give” and with an -n suffix to indicate a noun. It’s much less awkward to use. This is even clumsier. The distinction between a Half-Elf with human heritage and a Half-Elf with any other kind of heritage can be indicated by either saying “Mali’tal ito hae’leh” or “She is a Half-Elf” where it’s relevant to refer to one’s Elven heritage, or “Tali’Valah ito hae’leh” for “She is Half-Human” where such is relevant to refer to. Making needlessly complicated words is where everyone trips themselves up w/r to lotc Elven. It’s unnecessary, don’t overcomplicate things when language has all sort of non-verbal queues from one’s surroundings, tone of voice, hand-gestures etc. rip thank you again ill fix through :n: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermy 1484 Share Posted October 14, 2019 You should write an ig book about this..! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigergiri 3073 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Vermy said: You should write an ig book about this..! *squints at high elf.. dont take my stuff* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liv 485 Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/13/2019 at 8:43 PM, Aethling said: This should read “Ame Velulaei’ehya nae ahererih” This is incorrect, as a suffix it goes at the end of the word with an apostrophe. Used at the beginning of a sentence, it means “but.” This is also incorrect. Nowhere in the grammatical rules does it state that an apostrophe is required. Heya is a catch-all for “who, what, when why,” we have to use context and non-verbal queues in order to distinguish which we’re specifically concerned with. They were replaced to be more consistent with the phonetics of Elven. It’s better to ignore them than to suggest only certain people may use these words. “Asul” is Sun “Mayilu” is a stem word, it means nothing on its own and requires affixes to make sense. Instead one should use “mayilun” lit. “Beloved” This is clumsy. Instead I use “illern” for “gift,” derived from the verb iller “to give” and with an -n suffix to indicate a noun. It’s much less awkward to use. This is even clumsier. The distinction between a Half-Elf with human heritage and a Half-Elf with any other kind of heritage can be indicated by either saying “Mali’tal ito hae’leh” or “She is a Half-Elf” where it’s relevant to refer to one’s Elven heritage, or “Tali’Valah ito hae’leh” for “She is Half-Human” where such is relevant to refer to. Making needlessly complicated words is where everyone trips themselves up w/r to lotc Elven. It’s unnecessary, don’t overcomplicate things when language has all sort of non-verbal queues from one’s surroundings, tone of voice, hand-gestures etc. Big Brain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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