if you arent scared of the halfings your doing something wrong.
If your under thirteen your shouldn’t be on the server. I can understand not letting other see your age if your a minior or not. Some people are age conscious. That might be doable by putting in a spolier. But a lot of people check applications to grab players and see how they may approach. Everything else is CT’s job. Though if you still have your long desp I’m very sorry it is a big big sad for the limit. But in game you can sometimes go over it with a command.
So @LotsOfMuffins when are you going to respond to everyone on your own thread?
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@Telanir tbh bro if the whole community clearly does not like an admin i do not see how they can effectively do their job. That is just going to alienate players. It doesnt even matter if muffins technically didn’t “do” anything terrible, it’s still a terrible look for the community when theres just a half assed “I didnt really do anything wrong” response.
It’s not about “right and wrong” there’s a lot more at stake than that. If the lotc admin response to admin corruption and misbehavior is “Yeah basically accept her apology and move on”, and the community response is “we want our points to be addressed and honestly muffins removed”, that shows how much you care about the opinions of lotc players. And if you dont, that shows what the actual problem with the admin team is. It doesnt matter what the “optimal” way to do things is or whatever is TECHNICALLY better, it is better to go with what the community wants – i would say this is demonstrated very clearly by old school runescape which thrived largely due to the development team basically doing what the community wants.
My personal experience with muffins has been she is very arbitrary. When i said high elves shouldnt be admins i meant it there’s something more to be said when every high elven admin is corrupt, abuses, or is straight r word. Lmfao just saying
@Priceflash You are absolutely right—it’s not about what’s optimal or efficient. LotC is a human experience at its core & that connection is what matters most. It’s not about what is technically better, or what is all the rage—it’s not about what is philosophically correct either. Some people are seeing red right now, seeing blood and in all my years on LotC—that road never ends well, it never ends in a way that is just nor ever in a way to be proud of.
& my man Lumi we’re in touch now so we can talk about it in our DM’s.
@Telanir Honestly in all my time in lotc the witch hunts have never ended bad, i have never seen one where i was like “Wow that person didnt deserve to get dragged”. Maybe for the person getting dragged it ends badly but they are not relevant to the overall ecosystem that much, even if they like to think they are. Any other random bs fights on lotc are usually bad but i think when its a witch hunt usually its deserved
Honestly there wasnt even that much damning evidence of muffins being actually more corrupt than most other lotc staff, so i see why she wasnt removed from that standpoint. But I think it shows that people are fed up with nepotism on lotc and the way it basically dictates the entire server. At the end of the day lotc staff teams and even most communities on LoTC are based on who you’re friends with, who’s ass your kissing, and to a certain extent what you’ve accomplished on lotc but I’d say that’s on the back burner unless you’re really outstanding. People are mad that it’s the case, but it’s been the case for as long as i’ve been on lotc and probably since aegis. This leads to policymaking that is not necessarily in line with the overall community because cliques rule the server. Even if you are not in one before you join the staff, you get sucked in to the system and now you’re a part of one as well. I think this definitely leads to uneven policymaking because the cliques dictating the policies are most likely not in line with the greater community.
And, at the end of the day, i dont think any lotc user really thinks this should be the case, even those on staff, but i think it’s just a systemic issue that stems from this being a server with deeply entrenched factions. It’s like how on actual factions servers usually mods and helpers or whoever are often more concentrated in the top clans – those who are already staff know those people because they likely talk to them daily, so when it comes time to consider whos next in line who are they going to pick some random person or someone they know?
I think if lotc addressed this issue the muffins situation would not be as bad but again all that happened was a half assed apology and no actual policy response. The lack of action is what is most disturbing – i think it would have been better to not post a response or apology at all if no action was going to be taken, because you’re preaching to an audience that doesn’t exist. Nobody wants to hear “I’m sorry” they want to see something occur
@LotsOfMuffins Muffins as much as i admire your reposomnce. You cant just nitpick what was in the report. Granted some things you didnt see (and the public) but that doesnt mean you can nitpick what was said. You cant apologize to some people and not all so for your convenience I shall Link each one if it has a link. Beacsue some of the people dont desevre to be blanketed by a post that didnt even go over them. Lets talk: Voops comment and the pex abuse would you like to talk about this? https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?tab=comments#comment-1800260 Overstepping your bounds and doing this? and causing a significant problem Imsure you saw this as you had seen Belles comment which was way after? Do you have nothing to say for this? adding Zach in here cause it was in direct relation:https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800300 https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800433 Meteordragon: https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800276 Blocking him while he was still staff? He still needed you, and you denied him that. As a general admin, you can't just block people who need you. Alexa: https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800300 For giving a plus one on an app? This is in the thread. So im not sure why you won't address it. Keldrith, macklunkey and kaelan. Which talk about this entire situation which would be understandable if you had a defence, but you chose not to address any of it. https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800372 https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-1800329 https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800390 https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800442 Korvic and the librarian: Both talk about how you assert dominance, over other staff. https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800345 https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800264 Marb You talk about marb but you fail to mention this, https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800374. why can your past team do this but other players cant? You go above the rules but don't allow the same for the player base your represent. Flemishsupremancy & Callum: who came for you for help but nothing?https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800383 https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800403 https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/195665-the-muffins-report/?do=findComment&comment=1800406 not to mention they talk about the Callum ban and as I look back on it. There some truth to that. You wanted him banned. And im sorry for how that went cause if I knew I wouldn't have lifted a finger. Cal: Coming to me over a VC you had with cal and trying to force something. I had to remind you you are an admin. On several occasions or you could go to me or his admin. I did talk to cal that day. But coming to me and saying your very bias is somewhat wrong don't you think? Cheezy_garlick: is there a reason you took his role away or? Just not going to say anything on that? for all the people blacked out that weren't addressed.: Ct that were generally scared of how you might react to their behaviour. They were frightened what does tell you any comment? You were caught bragging about a blackmail folder in a ct VC? Isn't that just not ok? Last time that was even talked or a similar case about Every individual was banned—searched in their computer for it. It is not a good look. The entire alt situation, I remember you were explicitly told not to touch that by several managers at the time. You didn't even check even though you knew the player was banned. There is a way to check if someone is who they say they are. Did you do any of that no. you waited and for some of the mods are still waiting for that verifications to this day. So Muffins would you like to talk about these? because sending you a forum message for something that was already talked about in 7 pages of thread and in 42 pages in a document. Probably not the best place to avoid. I admired you for responding after your short hiatus. And I am sorry for the way things have happened. But in all honesty, I am not going to be happy until I know as a general admin your not touching ct things unless necessary. General admin is what Telanir was currently equal in status and helps out in every team. I am afraid I have to disagree with this mostly because muffins yourself you were already 'helping' with every team even if you didn't have to or people told you not too. It's not a good taste and its an ok temp plan for now. But only temporary, if anything! I've had people come up to me about what should be done here and there. Many outcomes were thought of but, this? in no way shape or form is this. What we wanted, Telanir is perfectly fine being intermed community admin. I've seen him do it twice I under him once nothing blew up. For the people doubting it, you'll be fine for now I promise nothing will blow up. But muffins you should either step down and work on the community as a member and let someone else take the reigns for now. or enjoy the server and take a full break.
If you have things you wish to add but dont want on the thread please send me a dm(Tigergiri#0744)
PART 7 is up bois
Thank ******* god, I startedt this of december of last year with oliver and Anore. Im so happy it finally went through knowing that war and conflct rules were what was holding everyone back. Im coming for you human rper set your ages and Races right!!!
do people listen to the truth that ive been telling for months now that im not on staff? People listen to what they listen to...
I’m taking my time in the back of room
Don’t assume I’m as cold as I seem
Widen the eyes, show the teeth, Holding hands
like it’s planned, how do they know what they mean
I go up to a friend grab his arm what’s the code
i should know? do you struggle like me
he says finish your drink, then we’ll bounce, get it down
Hit the town I still don’t know what he means
Missing something vital here?
Woke up feeling kind of weird
Guess I’ll just pretend - play along
Till they figure it out - I don’t quite belong
Fake it till you make it but I’m getting it wrong
think I’ve figured it out I don’t quite belong
Suddenly face to a face, man to man
understand? I say yes but I don’t
It’s working a charm, here take this, you’ll be wired
But I’m tired, I’d rather smoke it alone
In goes the drink and the fire and out
Comes the doubt and the stutter and shame
I chew over a word, but it’s wrong, No I’m fine,
What’s the time, I think I’m done with this game
PLAYER NAME : Tigergiri CURRENT POSITION : n/a SUGGESTED POSITION : D REASON FOR CHANGE :
Snow elves at leats had a central home.. god to think what would happen to Dark elves who have been split since what valor?