[Complete] Report (LobsterLarry, Ewdrawings, PrimnyaQuorem, Xarkly)

[LobsterLarry 1514]

Player(s) Being Reported

PrimnyaQuorem

Rule(s) Broken

Powergaming, Bad Faith, Stalling, Failure to RP

 

Player(s) Involved

LobsterLarry, Ewdrawings, PrimnyaQuorem, Xarkly

 

Explanation

 

I was in a CRP in Mount Kaelin with Ewdrawings. We caught PrimnyaQuorem breaking into our cow barn. He continuously powergamed and so both sides of the conflict called a moderator online, when there were none online. One logged on and took the req, Xarkly. The CRP was going somewhat fine for the most part until near the end where he accused Ewdrawings of abusing pex to show up to the CRP, and accused me of powergaming, which was only the start of his bad faith. He continuously ignored attacks, and used his spell every single emote to attempt to 'stun' me for an emote, which would make me unable to do anything for the entire fight if he managed to succeed, since he would be able to just stun every emote. I broke in after about 3 hours of CRP (We were fighting around a Cow barn, us on the outside, PrimnyaQuorem on the inside) and attempted to hit him with my boomsteel to end the fight, using my armor and atronach arms as a shield, covering everything I could to get out of the malflame hit. Xarkly then proposed we did Roll CRP as in the CRP, a lot of OOC bickering over spells and redlines had occurred. I swung my hammer and rolled a 15 out of 20, when immediately after I had put him (PrimnyaQuorem) into a bad position IRP, as he was backed into a corner, he complained to Xarkly, who made it back to Honour without him even rolling to take the hit. The next emote he completely ignored my attack and malflame struck me, no rolls, no mention to my attack. Once landing the strike, he said in LOOC that he would like to continue the rolls, as if he had waited for the best moment to allow for rolling where it would be advantageous to him to do so. Ewdrawings had come into the barn behind me and attempted to cast a spell towards him, even out rolling him to get his attack off me. She managed to roll higher than him, however Xarkly said it was not enough and allowed his hit to hit me, while he took nearly zero damage or affect from the attack. He was able to continue to attack with no drawbacks even though he had been injured and had a broken leg and rib. Arguments continued to happen until I asked Xarkly to tp him out and void the interaction after hours of the conflict going nowhere due to his bad faith. Xarkly had allowed his actions to go on throughout the entire ordeal, whereas our side remained cordial and kept to being respectful (at least in the public chat, I definitely got heated in dms after hours of being powergamed and ruled unfairly against). I am sending the entire log file I had for tonight. Moderators or admins could look back in the logs at the time stamps that are in there to see exactly what went down. 

 

 

Relevant Material

Evidence

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kA0uEYxc3W8hd4P_KjlF8aGxaHjlB4RO66xzxSwfRiQ/edit

 

(1162, 225, -1112)

10/07/24

 

Evidence of uncooperative conduct.

Evidence

Yes, Hours of trying to get things resolved led to nothing. 

 

Desired Result of Report

I want RP knowledge of the Cow Barn to be removed from PrimnyaQuorem, and I would like for him to suffer a broken rib in character for the Boomsteel strike that should have happened but didn't. 

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[PrimnyaQuorum 4010]

For my sake, the logs I'm referring to will be here. 

 

To begin, I don't blame Ewdrawings in particular from responding to RP from a LC - that's a issue that shouldn't exist, given Moderation should already have had a basic set of rules or do's/don'ts regarding the system we've had for almost a year, now. I would contest that flying over from your LC to conflict should not be allowed, but that's neither here nor there - can't punish someone for something that has no rules but it obviously a bit silly. She was not in vanish, and I acknowledge that, given it was difficult to tell how she went from not at the barn to the barn without running up the only path in.

 

You, on the other hand, seemed absolutely adamant you weren't going to get hit the moment you saw it was a Inferi - from re-writing emotes to avoid Malflame, to making dodges that even the overseeing mod called you out on repeatedly. Given that this report is not for your inability to follow the various MAs/FAs you hold, I wont be going into detail, but as far as I understand you've been a T3 Scion for a long time; there is no excuse as to your inability to correctly RP out your own lore to the point 2-3 separate ST and other scions, at a brief glance, recognize you were powergaming your lore. In brief: Soul Shadows cannot simply not appear for 10+ Rounds of Combat, Soul Lag is at best mundane steel in strength/sharpness/durability of its weapons, and hits with a quarter of the original force, not orc-strength boomsteel because you'd like it to be. My Character had a flesh wound and fracture upon their leg, not breakage as you imply.

 

It's also obvious several times throughout the fight your unwillingness to cooperate and your antagonistic desire to force the outcome you want through anymore means - you want it over until you hear Void, then demand it be finished; you wanted rolls when your under a malflame attack that you've entirely avoided, but when it strikes you and the same rationale about someone else moving in and attack that saved you earlier is used, you're very quick to accuse the Mod.

Every point of contention I made regarding your usage of lore was followed up by the lore page, and a remark from a ST on the topic to the moderator. The reason I got the "benefit of the doubt" was because I can point to any applicable redline from Inferi lore - something you are horribly versed in, considering you don't even know Inferi can evolve and yet insisted my Inferi could only be 7 feet tall for some reason.

 

We can also skim by the fact not only were you completely mishandling and misrepresenting your lore, you took particular issue with mine to the extent you started dictating what it could or could not do, regardless of the fact that I've probably been using all involved lores longer then you. Case in Point -  ignoring the absurdity of a 8 foot tall Uruk ducking under a Meter wide flamethrower after entering through a window at point blank range, you did not produce a item stating you had a layer of cloth underneath your armor - per Malflame redlines that inflicts every aspect of Malflame except for not leaving scars, and would possibly incur the penalty of forcibly rejoining a Scion's Soul to their body, as no armor is airtight, nor are your orc's arms a meter thick.

 

Throughout the encounter I was in conflict with Xarkly - what you neglect to mention is after he originally attempted to force it to rolls, he convinced me and had us agree we would do one further round of Honor CRP - of which you powergamed - before it would be forced to rolls, no questions asked. Again, you spent a awful lot of time arguing for everything when it wasn't in your favor in that instant, while my points pertained around my unwillingness to continue CRP with someone so intentionally dense on their own lore as to claim negligence. It only begs the question how often you've done this to other people.

 

As for the original Modreq - I made one early on, after I noticed your inability to take a hit, despite your insistence on "Give and Take". You never mentioned nor stated you intended to make one, and even asked me to weigh my own lore against Rolls, Chess, and Checkers in a bid to avoid the fact of what was happening - only to powergame further when you were refused.

 

Despite this, I took the time to explain the various aspects of lore involved at each step at your request - and even then, when your lore forced you to be stunned, you instead caved in and filed a Admin Req instead of emoting, as you had repeatedly insist I do throughout the encounter at any occurrence of disagreement.

 

Overall, you were antagonistic to a extreme, unwillingly to properly do Honor CRP, borderline failing to utilize your own lore whilst criticizing my own knowledge for some inane reason, and at every step of this conflict, did all you could IRPly and OOCly to avoid a Malflame Hit. The only wholly truthful part of your report I can find is that Malflame does indeed stun you for [1] emote - though if you'd bothered to let me utilize my own lore, it disallows stunlocking. Because of this gross OOC mindset of winning, however, the entire encounter was voided.

 

It does not excuse your conduct though, and I hope moderation sends out infractions as required for your conduct during this situation.

 

 

[LobsterLarry 1514]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aTnFaNVRTgrLT0mmtr6aDdjTi8FzpCPvDmEHBFn0LIw/edit

More Evidence with analysis of PrimnyaQuorem's Emotes

[LobsterLarry 1514]

Also my Soul lag hit was never with Orc-Strength with Boomsteel... Idk where you got that from. You got only a flesh wound and a fracture from being hit by boomsteel wielded by a Peak Orc Strength Orc ? Not sure how it would be just a fracture if you literally emoted your ARMOR BEING CAVED IN, like where would all that caving in go if not for it to literally smoosh into your leg, causing a break. You also took a 'fracture' which is still a discombobulating blow to your leg, which WOULD have disconnected you from your magic, but apparently you didn't want to do that, and continued to cast spells every single time. Don't be saying I was power gaming the strength of my Soul Lag, you're just reaching now.
 

Lore Page for Scion ^

Lore GUIDE for The Malflame burns (Probably the Naztherak page I was just sent this)

The LORE for Scion's Soul Shadow's affect by Malflame and Dragonsflame takes more precedent than the GUIDE for your Naztherak (From what I have been told) So just HITTING my body with a weapon coated in Malflame would not stun lock me as you tried to do... almost every single emote... not letting me dodge or block... lol...If you hit my soul shadow, which would have been fine, then sure, I'd be stunned. But you kept trying to hit my ARMOR every single hit, to get me inflicted by Malflame to stun me... Which.... I don't know how you'd inflict it upon me when Malflame can't get through armor... you said that yourself.

[PrimnyaQuorum 4010]

13 minutes ago, LobsterLarry said:

Also my Soul lag hit was never with Orc-Strength with Boomsteel... Idk where you got that from. You got only a flesh wound and a fracture from being hit by boomsteel wielded by a Peak Orc Strength Orc ? Not sure how it would be just a fracture if you literally emoted your ARMOR BEING CAVED IN, like where would all that caving in go if not for it to literally smoosh into your leg, causing a break. Don't be saying I was power gaming the strength of my Soul Lag, you're just reaching now.

Lore Page for Scion ^

Lore GUIDE for The Malflame burns (Probably the Naztherak page I was just sent this)

The LORE for Scion's Soul Shadow's affect by Malflame and Dragonsflame takes more precedent than the GUIDE for your Naztherak (From what I have been told) So just HITTING my body with a weapon coated in Malflame would not stun lock me as you tried to do... almost every single emote... not letting me dodge or block... lol...If you hit my soul shadow, which would have been fine, then sure, I'd be stunned. But you kept trying to hit my ARMOR every single hit, to get me inflicted by Malflame to stun me... Which.... I don't know how you'd inflict it upon me when Malflame can't get through armor... you said that yourself.

 

From the Arcane Scion page, under Physical Effects:

 

"Second, the mended soul is not without consequence. Soul-afflicting spells or effects, such as Malflame, Dragonsflame, and so on, are debilitating for a Scion to experience- any direct hit of so upon their flesh, even in minor amount, would cause them to link with directly once more with their soul for a brief moment. This causes the Scion to be stunned for a full emote (Or a few seconds in narrative), breaking any focus, connection, thought or action they would be or might have been performing in that time. They however, do not experience any increased damage from the soul effect, simply a stun, interruption, and agonizing pain. "

 

You tried to state pretty early on that Soul Lag would strike with boomsteel-effect. Equally, the Inferi closed the distance to negate where it struck upon its leg, considering it is a two-handed polearm being swung in a very enclosed space. The hit that resulted was a glancing strike, amplified by the fact it is high density boomsteel being swung by a orc. We can, of course, go on and on about how two 8 foot characters would be "dodging" any attack that is not closing the distance to your opponent to make their strike miss by having them swing far - but that's semantics and beyond the point, since we'd both agree in our own terms dodging and being totally safe is more then unlucky, something I adhered to and you mostly did.

 

The page you refer to is Pallo's Malflame Burns guide page, which cites the Scion Page to the letter. The stun, as referred to under Soul Lag redlines, references the Stun described under Physical Effects. I did not attempt to emote Malflame burning through armor, so in your own words you're just reaching now.

[LobsterLarry 1514]

I have never stated my Soul Lag would hit with boomsteel effect... Glancing strike? You emoted it hitting, not glancing. If it's glancing is that not just power gaming to avoid damage? I also had no flesh visible, all covered by either cloth or half-plate. You would not have 'stunned' me in your attacks with your spear, and as I am not sure about the validity of my visor (which btw is made with a glass plate covering the entirety of the front to make sure that sandblast does not go through, SURE might not be airtight) not protecting against the AIR of the Malflame that would supposedly burn my face and stun me... With that excuse you made you could also say the same thing happens with the Cloth on my body, since air could still go through it, but it doesn't.

The helmet I had on.

[PrimnyaQuorum 4010]

2 minutes ago, LobsterLarry said:

The helmet I had on.

 

Sure, let's give the benefit of the doubt here and assume the visor works - the filter would not protect, nor would the gap between the bottom of the helm and the neck. Equally, because you did not produce a item saying what you have on under that armor, such as a protective cloth layer, that malflame would have struck around the neck/chin/mouth/cheeks area underneath the helm. 

 

I wasn't aware, nor have I ever had the issue raised, that I did not specifically put glancing in my emotes - what I have always tended to emote is the actual damage, and reaction to said damage when I am normally CRPing - again, we can sit here all day and justify how  accurately someone can swing a two-handed polearm the size of a human (roughly 6 feet, id guess), of which is heavy boomsteel and thus isnt a lightning strike, faster then someone can move half a meter to close a gap. We can argue a lot of things.

[LobsterLarry 1514]

I have said this so many times now it is hilarious. I had a gorget on. How would my neck be accessible?

I told you this in #looc like 2-3 times when we were crping.

Closing a gap or not, you emoted getting hit by it, not glancing, Fracture or Break, it would have disconnected you from your magic.

Doesn't matter what you call it, Fracture or Break.... it still is a break.

[PrimnyaQuorum 4010]

1 minute ago, LobsterLarry said:

I have said this so many times now it is hilarious. I had a gorget on. How would my neck be accessible?

I told you this in #looc like 2-3 times when we were crping.

Closing a gap or not, you emoted getting hit by it, not glancing, Fracture or Break, it would have disconnected you from your magic.

Doesn't matter what you call it, Fracture or Break.... it still is a break.

 

A fracture is much less severe then a breaking of bone. Equally, again - a Gorget is not providing a air-tight seal. If you do not have a item stating there is a layer of cloth under it, which you likely dont have since you would have produced it by now, Malflame goes through cracks and crevices in armor.

 

As we previously discussed, yes, the fracture did disconnect the Inferi - neither spell required it to remain connected to cast. I have said this many times, too.

[LobsterLarry 1514]

So just thought I should let you know since I don't think you know this... Skin counts as your armor as well, and there is clearly cloth underneath all of the armor plating. You should be able to use (hopefully) both of your eyeballs to see that I have cloth under my armor. You do not need an item for every single thing about your character. But just for you, I will go ahead and make little items for every single aspect of my character's armor so in the future if we fight you are happy I have linked everything in a document so you can see that you've had an impact.

Edit: Skin as in, Minecraft Skin, not mechanical skin, since I'm sure you'd be happy to 'correct me' on that too.

I'm finished commenting, I'll let moderation complete what they need to complete, as I don't have time to argue and bicker 24/7 on the forums.