Haldon 72 Share Posted November 5, 2011 See what I mean? This is what happens -> Click Talfagoron handled it well by rising above but this is the sort of confusion I'm talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 347 Share Posted November 5, 2011 lol I spent 3 hours editing my application to make it look better and have more information :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliath 384 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Minecraft name: JoshIsTooCool Forum name: Goliath What do you think are the top five things, that are most important in an application and why? The Biography: This needs originality, effort and the character needs to appeal to me. I enjoy a biography which has meaning, which is in-depth and speaks to me. If it is dull, no originality, then I will not approve. I'll tell the applicant what to change, how to improve and give clear constructive criticism. The biography must be different and not be predictive, if it's along the lines of 'He cuts wood for fun' then it just isn't going to get accepted. The biography needs precision and time taken into it. Grammar: I will accept the odd mistake, as we are only human, but slang and horrendous grammar will not be approved. I want applicants who speak clearly and with meaning. For me, grammar is key, grammar intrigues me and will keep me reading. I do not enjoy reading applications with high broken English, but if I can see that they are trying, it's good enough. Many mistakes just says that they don't care about this application, it means they haven't proof read and LordOfTheCraft isn't a 'biggie' in their eyes. Detail: The applicant needs depth and detail. They need precision and if they can correctly get their point across without 'egging it on' and at the same time, not providing me with blunt, pointless information. There's a thin line between going into crisp detail, and boring me. Simply answering questions with 'yes' isn't good enough for me, it shows very little effort and it's as though the applicant doesn't have any care for this server, without care, they probably wouldn't stick in character, and without sticking in character, there will be no fun for others! Realism: This server is full of realistic characters, each one has meaning and an interesting story behind them. However, applicants who take this and morph their characters to be highly out of the ordinary are not ones who shall be getting acceptance. Being 'Magic' or 'creating minas with the click of their fingers' is just not realistic. This takes away the fun in Aegis, if the character can do whatever they like and blame it on their character, that just isn't going to work. I will be looking for a realistic character, someone who isn't dull and boring, yet, isn't completely out of the ordinary and not realistic. Keeping to the lore: The lore makes Aegis, Aegis makes the lore. An applicant that doesn't stick to the lore and goes off creating weird and wonderful places isn't going to get them any where. They won't fit into Aegis with very little understanding of the lore. I have to admit, in my first attempt to get into LordOfTheCraft, I did not stick to the lore, and it took me no-where, I honestly would have no understanding of my character if I did get accepted. So, for me, sticking to the lore is a big thing. Without the lore, the applicant will be without approval in my eyes. I feel I should be in the application team because I'm focused, trustworthy and give honest non-biased advice to others. I'm so dedicated, even if I wake up in the middle of the night I'd turn on my phone and browse the forums! I want to help this server out in as many ways as possible- this being one of them. I feel that talking to the applicants as equals will, firstly, make the whole LordOfTheCraft experience much more enjoyable and secondly, so I can be trusted and give advice to others. I will never decline an applicant without providing them with reasoning, something which I received a lack of when applying for this server. I'll be a fair application grader, and never will I abuse my power. If you see me on OOC, I'm well spoken and am always willing to give helpful friendly advice to others. I'm on the forums a high percentage of my time and will be able to mark apps around the clock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repiteo 173 Share Posted November 6, 2011 > Shift uses my achievement image and credits me for it ...I like this picture more than I should Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLordOfNoobs 4 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Alien, your on page 4 and im on page 6 and no one saw us yet. D: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repiteo 173 Share Posted November 6, 2011 He probably saw them, it just wasn't what he was looking for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLordOfNoobs 4 Share Posted November 6, 2011 He probably saw them, it just wasn't what he was looking for. Well i dont care about mine but alien's was really good.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repiteo 173 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Well i dont care about mine but alien's was really good.. I didn't say it wasn't good, it just isn't what he was looking for. But remember, Alien said he edited his, so it likely has improvements that will be favorable in Shift's eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLordOfNoobs 4 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I didn't say it wasn't good, it just isn't what he was looking for. But remember, Alien said he edited his, so it likely has improvements that will be favorable in Shift's eyes. I edited it too, but i ran out of ideas with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 347 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Either what you guys said, or shift just has been busy and has gotten around to recruiting more people to the Application Team. I still am going to stand strong beside my new edited application. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLordOfNoobs 4 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Either what you guys said, or shift just has been busy and has gotten around to recruiting more people to the Application Team. I still am going to stand strong beside my new edited application. You just deserve it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Berell 226 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Minecraft name: NiNjAxR3M1Xx Forum name: NiNjAxR3M1Xx (Fawkes) What do you think are the top five things, that are most important in an application and why? 1: A basic understanding of Roleplay. Yes, it be true. As this is a roleplaying server, I expect the applicant to know terms such as metagaming, powergaming and roleplay in general. I also think, as a side note, that the current application for the server does not ask enough about their roleplaying skill. What is metagaming? What is powergaming? These are all questions I have been asked IC, and I am quite frankly sick of it. It needs to change. Not to mention the sickening spectacle of mixing OOC with IC. I only do that in emergencies, like potty toilet breaks. 2: Grammar. By grammar, I don't mean I'll supa-grammar/spelling nazi them into oblivion- I'm in no means perfect in that respect and I know others aren't either. What I do expect, however, is an understanding of simple/compound sentence structure, with very few spelling mistakes and an knowledge of where capital letters need to go, and just general punctuation. 3: No meta/powergaming. This one can be a little tricky- usually it is subtle, like "My character was a master blacksmith for the King, but he quit because the unicorns told him too" The key thing there is, the applicant just forced a memory onto this king, and will be metagaming if he recognises the king via nameplate/display name etc. Very hard to spot, and very damaging. 4: Know your lore! Minecraftia Is everything on minecraft, it is the universe of minecraft, each world is just a planet in minecrfatia!!!! I think that explains it to some extent. What we have to bear in mind is that we are not playing Minecraft, we are in the world of Aegis and we should behave and act accordingly. I also think that knowledge of placenames that actually exist, such as New Terriko or Whispering Isles, or even those that no longer exist like Kramoroe, Alstion etc would showcase your knowledge of the lore greatly. 5: Plagerism = Big Fat Perma-Decline. For too long, plagerisers have plagued (owo) this server. Native, in our "special forums" I have notes on how to combat plagerism and I would like some feedback on how it would work with the system you have in place now. Not much else can be said really, just that I am exteremely against it. Extra Comments: I am not really too fussed if I get the position; I am only really applying as I believe I have the patience and skillz to help this server by keeping the noobs at bay. I also want to play my bit in removing plagerisers and bad roleplayers, for my own sanity as well as others. As another extra note, I would like to bring up Maturity. Namely, after someone has been declined. If they can take it like pros, and not whinge/moan/cry about it, then it says alot about them. Likewise, so does raging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auvreaeath 263 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Before reading this please take note into this message or, more likely shout out to those trying to join the server. I as a new player to the Lord of the Craft, have also been through the application process. I learned a lot while I was going through this important part to entering the server, and I think the most important thing you all need to know is that if you really want to join.. Put effort into this application. If members of the Application Team deny you don't give up, there is a reason why we here in the Lord of the Craft community give you second chances, we're all here for you and we always will be, we are one whole community that should be there for our new players. I wish to improve the chances for new applicants to succeed in building their key to the server, and I wish to be bond to doing this. I'm one of the players who is here for all of you, and I am one of the players who will be here for not only our server but also it's community. Sincerely, Auvreaeath . .. ..:;;ˆ›„¸¸¸„‹•*ˆApplication Team Applicationˆ*•›„¸¸¸„‹ˆ;;:.. .. . Minecraft name: My Minecraft account name is Auvreaeath same for my In-Game name. Forum name: This is also Auvreaeath What do you think are the top five things, that are most important in an application and why? The top five things that I think create your "key" to the server are those listed below. 1-Biography? This one is utterly the most important, but nonetheless the Biography! The reason why I believe this is the most important part to building your key to the server is because this step is what creates your character in the land of Aegis. Without this you would be some random image walking around with no purpose or no abilities, Without this of course your application will not get accepted. 2-Grammar? This is also very important, The Grammar. I have not seen one Application in the month of viewing them that has been accepted and had sentences such as "I iz sixtxteans yeas old" (No offence if anyone finds it offensive) Without proper grammar you might as well believe you will be denied. 3-What they know about Roleplaying? What they know about roleplaying? Since we are a roleplay based server every application I've looked at I would see if they knew anything about roleplaying. With this you can see if they are actually into roleplay and if they can succeed in roleplaying. This is also a key part of the application because it shows if they are potential metagamers, powergamers, or just people looking for another server to grief or exploit. 4-Have they read, understood, and agreed to the rules and lore? This is a very important part because if they have not read the rules or lore you can highly believe their application will be dreadful.. Without knowing the rules or lore you can't really answer most of the important in character steps. Their Biography will most likely be off the route to Aegis as well. 5-Format If there application to the server is just one giant wall of text then not many people will want to read it. I believe if people actually spent time in their application they wouldn't have to spend a couple tries getting accepted and they would should how much they really want to be on this server. Without a good format their application will more then likely have a delayed response and I believe no one can honestly endure the wait to this server. 5.5-A Completed Application? I didn't know if this would sound like a troll so I didn't know if I should use this but something I would really want in a application is a Completed Application. Other Information: The Reason why I've wanted to join the Application Team lately was because I've taken a interest in viewing other peoples applications, the best of them, and even the worst of them because it gives me a good view on how people are and how they would be in game. I want to join the Application Team so I could also help relieve the amount of time the current application team spends on these applications, I think that it kind of ruins the fun of the game with people hounding you to accept their applications so I want to help out. Thank you for reviewing my application, I hope I get accepted. Even if I get denied I'm happy that you took thought into your response and that I can learn from this application. Sincerely, Auvreaeath 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Undercroft 129 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Minecraft name: Amarnra (Zolgash IC) Forum name: Amarnra What do you think are the top five things, that are most important in an application and why? Effort The first and foremost thing I look for in an application is how much effort the person applying for the server has put in. Someone who does not put enough effort into their application is showing how much they care about this server; i.e not a lot. Say for example someone writes: "Yeah" or "nah" or "He's Tall nad has long hair". It just looks like someone just hasn't tried. I even saw someone go to the extent of this for their biography: "He's an Elf". It just shows poor effort and commitment to the server and it is these kinds of people that we do not want on our server. People who do not show effort at the beginning of their lord of the craft career are likley to continue this habit throughout it's entirety which would lead to a very poor role play experience for others. Examples of effort within their application include: -Number of words in an answer (for example a single word shows lack of effort) -The quotation, praise or ctritisism of a law. This shows that they read the laws and understand them. -The use of the lore of Aegis within an application. This shows that they were following the rules of the application process and actually read the lore of the server and incorperated it into their application. -The amount of effort put into the biography. I would say that a single paragraph or less that is poorly written would be a prime example of lack of effort. Quality of Role-Play I believe that being able to role-player correctly is vital for a role playing server. In the application there is one major part, and another opportuniy which is rarely used to display the quality of ones role--play. The First and foremost that I see being mentioned so much in peoples applications here to become part of the application team is the bio or biography. Now I do not see this single segment as being a make-or-break part of someones application, but as an example of how well that person can role play their character and explain just how abouts they got to where they are and what they are doing. The second part is the description which is rarly used and people mainly do such things as I mentioned about "tall, with long hair." This is another oppotunity for people to show their creative skills, to express their character in ways they couldn't in the biography. Granted it is percieved by most that this is just part of the application to give a breif description on what the character looks like, but to me it is much more then that. For me, spelling mistakes and the such do not matter so much because so many people on this server have english as their second language or have dyslexia (Quite a large quanitity of members I have seen have dyslexia, it is quite amazing). How they RP depends on their frame of mind. How well they are at telling their story. And I think that for an RP server that is very important. Examples of Quality of roleplay within an application: -The biography is first and foremost. -The description -Their understanding of what roleplay is in the question asking. Communication Communication in this sense refers to the ability of a person to get their message across to other people or person(s). In the sense of roleplay, it would be the ability for a person to correctly role play their character and correctly show what their character is doing and/or plans to do. I believe this is a vital part of an application. If the ability of someone to communicate is not checked then a myriad of bad situations may develop, and I am not just referring to grammar here, so many misunderstandings, misinterpretations and who knows what else would happen. If I am not being clear enough here, then I shall make an example. Person 1 is the person who has trouble communicating, person 2 is a member who has been part of the LotC community for a while. Person 1: I want to get your items Person 2: Excuse me? Person 1: I want to get your items, tehy look cool! Person 2: You are trying to rob me! *Checks forums* You don't have a villain app! Banned! See, the person was trying to say they like that persons items and they want to get them. As in they want items similar to what that person has, not steal them from them. But a misunderstanding has occured which has caused a ban report which wastes time and energy of GMs. This probably would never happen, but is just an example. Examples of a persons ability to communicate within their application include: -Their answers to questions. This includes detail or ideas being portrayed correctly. -The ability to write a correct biography that is in correct order and has minor hindrances to the readers ability to follow the story -Use of the english language. Not just refering to grammar, but also things such as using "lol" and 1337 speak (which I recall is one of the laws of roleplay on this server) Maturity Maturity is defined as the ability of a person to react in an appropriate way during different environments and circumstances. The definition of maturity also covers the ability to determine how to act appropriately and accordingly depending on the time and place, as well as the society and culture the person is currently part of. In the context of this server, the environment is the Lord of the Craft server, the circumstances is the RP and how to correctly role play (Although in saying this, there is no "CORRECT" way to role play as everyone has their own styles. It would be more correct to say how to NOT roleplay incorrectly) . The culture and "society" if you could call it one is the community of Lord of the Craft. If someone does not posses the ability to dertermine the correct time and place to act accordinly to the rules than the person is likely to break the rules and therefore be a hindrance to our community which is what the application process is used to stop. For example, if someone is immature and does not fit the descriptors of maturity then they are likely to do rash and irresponsible things which will disrupt role playing and possibly even offend members of our community. Examples of the level of maturity in a persons application: -How they dealt with answering the question of the favourite/least favourite law. For example if someone said: "I think that it is stupid that you use this law..." or "This is the best law ever because it is just so awesome!!" It does not show critical thinking and it shows immaturity -How they answered the biography. As in the details incorperated in it. If someone included that their character is a pimp who has "*******" it displays high levels of immaturity. -The general structure of their application and the ideas used. Structure Structure of the application. If someone is not going to follow the correct structure of the application then they obviously either could not take the effort (see effort) or just do not understand simple instructions. I believe that this also covers the persons ability to answer all of the set questions. Someone who cannot follow simple guidelines is someone who is not welcome on this server until they can do so. For example if someone writes an application of their own format, then they have obviously not read what they were required to read and therefore is likely to not read the lore and laws of the server. Also if they leave certain questions blank it shows that they are not following the correct structure of an application and are either misinterpreting the necessity of certain answers or just do not understand the correct structure of an application. Examples of structure in their application include: -Whether or not they have followed the correct format of an application -Whether or not they have answered all of the questions in the application I structured my application to become a member of an application team like I did because I wish to show initiative. I did not quote any direction sections of the applicaition form because I do not think that, that is answering the question directly because it would be merely telling Native what he already knows, you are not showing him your own ideas. By doing this I beleive I am showing that I am a creative and capable member of Lord of the Craft with the ability to read ideas and show my own opinion rather than quoting directly from the source. Thank you for reading! *Editted 11/11/2011 @5:59 pm EST (GMT + 10)* *Editted 18/11/2011 @6:42 pm EST (GMT + 10)* MAJOR Edit: *Editted 20/11/2011 @9:16 pm EST (GMT + 10)* *Editted 23/11/2011 @8:13 pm EST (GMT + 10)* 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 347 Share Posted November 8, 2011 *posts application* *instantly ones it up* meh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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