OOC: Report on the Wardens!

[Belyn 21]

Okay, I talked to Cracker... it wasn't them... I am dropping this report! No more flamming!

P.S. Cracker and the Wardens, I am sorry for this.. I should have gotten the full story first.

[VonEbs 1224]

That doesnt look pretty.

[Belyn 21]

Nope, not at all!

[Eledyr 85]

The wardens keep getting me angry

They need to learn manners.

[Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1540]

Don't the rules explicitly state that you can't "capture" a base if the leader isn't there?

[Crackerjack494 97]

First the Wardens rp'ed for an hour or two and gather orc's as well to find and attack the rebels base of operations. We found out that the White Ravens were housing the rebellion so we went to your base and attacked it, realizing people were not in it. I made it a point that nobody griefed or stole anything before I went to talk to a gm (Lirinya) to make sure that we don't do anything against the rules. It was decided that you need to talk to the owner before griefing or raiding, so Liri agreed that I should leave a few signs informing you guys about the situation and most importantly Ogedi. If there was minor stealing and griefing I cannot be responsible for that as I hope none was committed as of yet, if a few people did in fact grief or steal before this was sorted out, I will try to find out who ( It could be orcs as well as there were maybe 8 or so orcs there). I do not deny any of this as it was in fact led by me based on new information we had gotten by Polcari, and that we had captured Caden right before hand. Please note the fact I considered the White Ravens point of view as well, thinking if it were me I would not like our base to be attacked and captured while we were offline, that is why I made my best attempt to handle the situation appropriately.

[Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1540]

You say that like you didn't break and place multiple blocks in the farm and front wall.

You even said in the sign that it was "attacked" and "Captured"

[Seventh / Ryan 93]

First the Wardens rp'ed for an hour or two and gather orc's as well to find and attack the rebels base of operations. We found out that the White Ravens were housing the rebellion so we went to your base and attacked it, realizing people were not in it. I made it a point that nobody griefed or stole anything before I went to talk to a gm (Lirinya) to make sure that we don't do anything against the rules. It was decided that you need to talk to the owner before griefing or raiding, so Liri agreed that I should leave a few signs informing you guys about the situation and most importantly Ogedi. If there was minor stealing and griefing I cannot be responsible for that as I hope none was committed as of yet, if a few people did in fact grief or steal before this was sorted out, I will try to find out who ( It could be orcs as well as there were maybe 8 or so orcs there). I do not deny any of this as it was in fact led by me based on new information we had gotten by Polcari, and that we had captured Caden right before hand. Please note the fact I considered the White Ravens point of view as well, thinking if it were me I would not like our base to be attacked and captured while we were offline, that is why I made my best attempt to handle the situation appropriately.

RPed with whom? Should you not be familiar with the rules of battle? You cannot attack a base if the leader is not there. Furthermore, I saw your men Break blocks to get inside the base. And one more point, you gave the Leader of the Guild a Deadline by which he must log on for, or else the Keep is taken, you cannot do that, becuase you had not discussed the battle, even. If you knew the rules of battle, you would have known that you must make a date, in which there shal be a battle. You cannot just go, waltzing matilda around people's bases with an army, claiming to raid it.

[Belyn 21]

Yes, I ask the same question... who did you RP with? We were not online Cracker!

[Crackerjack494 97]

RPed with whom? Should you not be familiar with the rules of battle? You cannot attack a base if the leader is not there. Furthermore, I saw your men Break blocks to get inside the base. And one more point, you gave the Leader of the Guild a Deadline by which he must log on for, or else the Keep is taken, you cannot do that, becuase you had not discussed the battle, even. If you knew the rules of battle, you would have known that you must make a date, in which there shal be a battle. You cannot just go, waltzing matilda around people's bases with an army, claiming to raid it.

The idea to set a date for which he has to respond is simply an activity check in which we would attack again and be able to tear it down and raid it and such that is done in war. I was told to give a date by Lirinya and we did not go and claim to raid and capture it and everything after no one was on. This will be handled appropriately and I will speak with Ogedi before action is taken. Please be mindful of the accusations you may make before knowing the full story or talking to me first.

[Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1540]

If you lead an attack on a base, you need to make sure nobody breaks any rules, in this case, griefing.

You can say you're going to attack at some point, but you can't go and claim to have "captured" a base without a leader, nor can you "attack" it without a leader, now or whenever. We're being perfectly "mindful" here.

[Ogedi 50]

Activity check??? I think you fail to comprehend how long that fort has been there actively housing MY guild! Its been there actively growing and expanding for SIX MONTHS! How dare you give me a deadline, madness! Let alone my guild is not holding a rebellion of any kind. You've been consistently harrasing my men on blatant causes. Should you break conduct again or continue with this blasphemy, I assure you official action will be taken against your account. So before you continue playing lotc I strongly suggest that your read the server rules, because I will have them inforced!

Now good day to you sir

[VonEbs 1224]

Activity check?

Quazar, you are not a GM, and cannot do an activity check. I think the LoTC community deserves a formal apology in which Quazar admits he is at fault.

[Ogedi 50]

Indeed! The audacity to willingly commit a breach of conduct on such blatant terms is truly disgusting! The ideology that was displayed does not coincide wih the mentality that should be present within the citizens of aegis. An abomination.

[firespirit44 1323]

So...what was the original ban report?