Have You Forgotten, Kinsmen? Have Ye Forgot I Ask!

[XkynarethX 109]

*you see a man in black robes, masked, on a bundle of planks shouting:

"Kinsmen, Northern brothers, Southern kin and half grown! Gather round!

Have you all forgotten??? Have you all forgotten the blood of Horen, the most noble blood of all that flows in you? Have you forgotten the city of AlKhazar? Have you forgotten how we lived alongside one another? Have you forgotten Oren and the brotherhood of us humans in it? I ask you, have you?

Have you forgotten how halfling, northerner, southeron, dwarf, elf and orc fought to defend the great city of AlKhazar? Have you forgotten how long the battle was? Have you forgotten our downfall? Our downfall was obviously allowed by three things: The weakness of Enor, and his inability to ensure a good life for all of his citizens. Second, the back stabbers, thieves, liars and wrong doers- the Phoenix rebels, and finally- the weak and short rule over Oren by Gauis Marius!

Enor neglected Galahar, and was rarely even seen among the people he supposedly ruled and loved! I never was him- did you? There was only one place he could be seen before AlKhazar fell! His precious palace, with his gold and riches! I ask of you all- where was he when the Phoenix rebels created Renatus??? Was he in front of his men, with his head held high? Was he leading his "mighty" army, and saving us of separation and injustice? No! Enor was and is a fool that now leads Salvus, a nation with again- no military strong force, with most likely a sad future.

The backstabbers- the Phoenix rebels. Were they fighting to overthrow Enor? Were they fighting to declare independence? If Enor was their target- why did they complain when Enor gave the throne to the Hochmeister? Clearly- they wanted more power! And that is what the destruction of Oren is all about! Everybody wanted to have Oren or at least a part of it for themselves! Or was this war about injustice done by Enor? If anything- the rebels are the unjust! Remember what The Purge was about? Injustice by the authority done to the people!

And finally- Gaius Marius! Known for running the infamous Black Cross!

If his power is as great as he and others say- how could he not defeat a town full of uneducated peasants? Even with the help of the orcs- the famous warriors of Krugmar he failed to put down the rebellion! He let them have their unjust way and get away with horrible crimes and

lies!

And so- sons of Horen! Unite once again- against your leaders! For a united human nation!

*he jumps backwards, runs off and disappears in the woods...

[Botar 39]

* A dwarf in a shirt of dark blue stands before you*

good sir, I am Botar Blackrock, Ambassador of salvus and I agree with you about enor, he was a weak ruler, and still is but I share my thought on this, Enor, is a ass. He agreed with Are fair queen dawn to help rule salvus, as a co-leadership to help ensure safety for are people and away from the war like nations of renatus and hanseti. Yet he is no where to be seen! he has left us and the queen alone and has gone off on his own ends but to this we have prospered and do have military strength or have you all not heard of the battle of das boot? I rest my case

* the dwarf departs *

[Robin Drake 731]

*Stands amongst the crowd and voices his own opinion*

You seem to me as though you are well versed in the old ways, in the history of Oren. Though, what you fail to remember the last standing bastion of the north, one which held it's own through the very worst of the undead plague. Winterfell. Tell me, do you know how it stood for so long? Do you know why the undead were unable to take it? No? Then let me tell you.

It's defenders, on the frontlines of the Oren Nation, saw much action fending off the undead hordes. Me and my fellow Northerners fought and gave our blood to protect our small town. We had a defense not of armys, not of grand walls, but of bravery and nerves of steel. Many fought and died, yet many who lived banded together and do you know what they accomplished? What your records have not taken into account? They formed a nation, after many, many long years of cold and constant fighting on the frozen northern borders, they wished for peace, for warmth where they could pass on to the afterlife knowing their children would be briught up in tranquility.

I am one whom hails from Winterfell and by Aeriel if I am forced to take up arms as I did in my youth to protect my home, so be it.

*Folds his arms as he says his piece, looking somber as he remembers the death that consumed his yesteryears.*

[XkynarethX 109]

*hearing Robin's voice from afar, the man in black returns and starts speaking less loudly...

Indeed! The Northerners defended Winterfell! I am glad our northern kin gave their lives to save us. But, fact is, it is as they say "United we stand, divided we fall."

[Braxis 813]

*Hears the man speech*

I was last Oren Knight Commander and Lord of Galahar Under Oren's Rule. And Enor was not the best of kings and when I request military support from the Black Crosses and Orcs raids on Galahar I would only get one or two men from him. Only once he came in saving the town. Most of the time I called in the Dwarf King Thorik to aid Galahar.

And about the Renatus folks. I was once thier High Constable but left due to many murder attempts on me and my family and other things. But They rebeled agsint Gaius cause he slaughterd many of Oren's and Galahar's People,Me younger brother levor was in the battle and was slain by Gaius(It how he choosed to Kill off his char/leave server). And They wanted enor off cause he was a weak ruler. And saw Gaius a murder since so many of thier people fell to his Order.

*Slowly Nods showing that he is done speaking*

[XkynarethX 109]

I know who you are *frowns* Braxis.

Also, you are blaming Gaius for not helping you in your goals? You requested the help of an isolated and powerful man who doesn't really care about you. What do you expect? *spits to his side

I remember how poorly Enor led. But, your treason of Gaius who never really cared about you, probably seeing no potential in your petty rule, was worse then Enor's weak leadership. If I was God, I would have all of your heads. You led your people into a worthless war. He led his too. All of you "Lords" and "Kings" and "Constables" have mislead the holy blood of Horen, no matter what else you did and what your excuse was. You are cowards, manipulators and people who ascended to a status of power off of sheer luck, or crime. Destroying Oren was one thing, a horrible thing to do. Not trying to create it again here, where we now reside, in Asulon, with the bloody Mori plotting to slit our throats is even worse. All of you have shown your level of worthiness. None.

*frowns at Braxis, awaiting a response, while looking around the crowd

[Braxis 813]

I know who you are *frowns* Braxis.

Also, you are blaming Gaius for not helping you in your goals? You requested the help of an isolated and powerful man who doesn't really care about you. What do you expect? *spits to his side

I remember how poorly Enor led. But, your treason of Gaius who never really cared about you, probably seeing no potential in your petty rule, was worse then Enor's weak leadership. If I was God, I would have all of your heads. You led your people into a worthless war. He led his too. All of you "Lords" and "Kings" and "Constables" have mislead the holy blood of Horen, no matter what else you did and what your excuse was. You are cowards, manipulators and people who ascended to a status of power off of sheer luck, or crime. Destroying Oren was one thing, a horrible thing to do. Not trying to create it again here, where we now reside, in Asulon, with the bloody Mori plotting to slit our throats is even worse. All of you have shown your level of worthiness. None.

*frowns at Braxis, awaiting a response, while looking around the crowd

*Sighs*

Ye Know I was one of the only saying at least give Gaius a Elven week? And I only tempted to became the Reantus King because the ascended Shoi asked me to go agsint Eze'kiel cause somthing was "Off" About him. And I dropped out due it spliting the Human race even further. And I Forgave what happend to me Brother Levor, And I do not blame gaius in war we are all Soilders and Soilders die at the end. And How do ye know I would have been a weak ruler? Ye know nothing of me past or me parents of me familes past. And Ever since Renatus was born I have been declings chances to gain royal blood. And I am the prophet of the Clerical I hold the light and me faith to it dearly and I stay netural in most conflicts if I can. But I do ask, Do ye know me by talking adn being with me? Or by the false rumors that were spread around to get me to leave Galahar back in its first days as Renatus capitol? And I am no War monger when Eze'kiel Lead my Soilders to Konsiberg I held some back requesting them to stay. I uphold peace and such I spent over 50,000 minas most of the Silverblade vault to pay off the wardebts. I was never one for war, and i try to avoid it at all cost unless its personal or I have to defend me family, Friends or Wife.

*Looks at the man for a respone*

[everblue2er101 906]

Josef listens to the man. In the past, he would have yelled out against him, trying to set the record straight. Now, he listens, carefully, taking note of the mans appearance and mannerisms. As the crowd buzzes with a fervor, Josef keeps standing off to the side, thinking to himself.

'This man seems frankly contradictory. I can agree, certainly, that Enor and his father before him took the nation of Oren to new lows after the rule of Pampo Perea. That was why the Phoenix Revolution was planned, for years, gathering support and planning the strike against him. How angry, then, were we when Enor simply stepped off the throne, handing the crown to the one man who he thought had strength to guide Oren? I do not disagree that Marius would have been a strong king, much like Tarus, but history got in the way. We could not let a man who had invaded Al'Khazar, who had revealed himself as an enemy of Oren, to claim the throne. Under different circumstances, I would have gladly accepted him as my king, but not after knowing what the Black Cross had done under his orders. The target was never Enor, really. It was his rule, his ever loosening grip on the fight against the Undead. After Al'Khazar fell, when Celestine, New Alstion, Crimson Vale and then even Winterfell were swallowed by the Undead, we wanted a strong ruler, one with Oren's best interests at heart. This was not Enor, not Marius. We only wanted power to rebuild Oren, strengthen it against the many threats. Renatus was not our goal, but it was forced into being along with Hanseti when Marius did not give the crown back to Tarus...'

[XkynarethX 109]

Fine! Ye wished not separation. So:

You were the High Constable.

You said to give Gaius an elven week.

You failed. This just shows and proves your leadership wasn't strong. Ye didn't have the persuasive, or even military power to shut up your uneducated rebels about Gaius. I can tell you wouldn't even try to make right what right isn't. Instead, you walked the other way when times were dark. Also, when you lost- you paid war debt. No action would send a straight message across more then holding your head up proud and refusing to give in to their pressure. And of course there is your old Silverbalde pride, caring about your own family then an entire nation. If you were a leader, you would and did depend on your family. I see many a sign of a weak leader in your case. It is your fragile grip of the authority you could have had that was the problem in your and Enor's case. *sighs, muttering "How does the fool not understand?" and with that mutter lifts his head and gazes at Braxis, waiting for yet another response.

[XkynarethX 109]

Josef listens to the man. In the past, he would have yelled out against him, trying to set the record straight. Now, he listens, carefully, taking note of the mans appearance and mannerisms. As the crowd buzzes with a fervor, Josef keeps standing off to the side, thinking to himself.

'This man seems frankly contradictory. I can agree, certainly, that Enor and his father before him took the nation of Oren to new lows after the rule of Pampo Perea. That was why the Phoenix Revolution was planned, for years, gathering support and planning the strike against him. How angry, then, were we when Enor simply stepped off the throne, handing the crown to the one man who he thought had strength to guide Oren? I do not disagree that Marius would have been a strong king, much like Tarus, but history got in the way. We could not let a man who had invaded Al'Khazar, who had revealed himself as an enemy of Oren, to claim the throne. Under different circumstances, I would have gladly accepted him as my king, but not after knowing what the Black Cross had done under his orders. The target was never Enor, really. It was his rule, his ever loosening grip on the fight against the Undead. After Al'Khazar fell, when Celestine, New Alstion, Crimson Vale and then even Winterfell were swallowed by the Undead, we wanted a strong ruler, one with Oren's best interests at heart. This was not Enor, not Marius. We only wanted power to rebuild Oren, strengthen it against the many threats. Renatus was not our goal, but it was forced into being along with Hanseti when Marius did not give the crown back to Tarus...'

*looking at the man standing aside, he waves his hand, not waiting for Braxis' response this time and yells "What do you think, lad? Ye look like a fine man to me, I would expect you to have something to say about this affair."

[Braxis 813]

Fine! Ye wished not separation. So:

You were the High Constable.

You said to give Gaius an elven week.

You failed. This just shows and proves your leadership wasn't strong. Ye didn't have the persuasive, or even military power to shut up your uneducated rebels about Gaius. I can tell you wouldn't even try to make right what right isn't. Instead, you walked the other way when times were dark. Also, when you lost- you paid war debt. No action would send a straight message across more then holding your head up proud and refusing to give in to their pressure. And of course there is your old Silverbalde pride, caring about your own family then an entire nation. If you were a leader, you would and did depend on your family. I see many a sign of a weak leader in your case. It is your fragile grip of the authority you could have had that was the problem in your and Enor's case. *sighs, muttering "How does the fool not understand?" and with that mutter lifts his head and gazes at Braxis, waiting for yet another response.

*raises a brow*

How did I fail? The Pheonix Rebels were not mine but Tarus' And They took over me town of Galahar. And I was Given it back from Tarus after He became king beacuse he knew The people around the area were found of me. And yes me family has a strong sense of pride, But I would not rely on them due that would upset the people I would repsent. Back at Galahar The only reasons I asked Silverbaldes for help alot was due to them all being in high postions such as the High Judge, Knight Commander of Renatus, a General in the Army and High Constable, But still i seeked help from the Prince when needed. And Back during me High Constable ship I asked the public many times "What si wrong with me military?" And I fixed almost all issues, I even found out who was corrupting me guard and abuseed it jails as his tourture room, His name was Tamara a lad who everyone did not suspect. But back on topic, I never lost? And the war debt was payed by me due to Eze'kiel not wanting to, So I paied it off to keep my people safe.

*Awaits*

[everblue2er101 906]

*looking at the man standing aside, he waves his hand, not waiting for Braxis' response this time and yells "What do you think, lad? Ye look like a fine man to me, I would expect you to have something to say about this affair."

Josef stares at the man with a long and cold gaze. He doesn't speak at first, not enjoying having so many eyes on him so suddenly. A few recognize him and whisper amongst themselves.

Enor, Marius, Tarus... All have come and gone. One now rules another nation, one is dead, one missing. Oren went through a turbulent time as the last days of Aegis came to a close, and it was Renatus that wound up carrying most of that burden. We are trapped within history, unable to convince the world that even with a new military, political system, king and lands that have changed. Hochmeister Samuel has inherited the same desire that drove Marius, to march against those they disagree with. He has convinced the leaders of Salvus, Alras, the Orcs and the Dwarves that Renatus has not changed and never will, and wants to see us destroyed for his own gains. Is this what Salvus wants, to see the collapse of Renatus? What happens then, does the Black Cross simply stop marching, or do they continue their trek north, taking over the farmers and merchants of Salvus? What of Alras, in their position between the historical enemies of the Dwarves and the Orcs? Will a time come when they too face the possibility of destruction? What will they do then? Although the leaders have made the decisions, the peoples of these nations can still speak out... I doubt that they want war much longer, do not want Hanseti to continue to march to war until the time when they grow so powerful from the land and resources they acquire through conquest that they are unstoppable. What started as a war of conquest between Hanseti and Renatus has turned into a war driven by the past, and the unwillingness of one man to accept that a whole nation can change. And this... this does not bode well for Asulon...

Josef began speaking calmly, but is very nearly shouting at the end of his speech. Somewhat embarrassed, he shrinks back again even as the chatter of the crowd grows louder.

[XkynarethX 109]

*raises a brow*

How did I fail? The Pheonix Rebels were not mine but Tarus' And They took over me town of Galahar. And I was Given it back from Tarus after He became king beacuse he knew The people around the area were found of me. And yes me family has a strong sense of pride, But I would not rely on them due that would upset the people I would repsent. Back at Galahar The only reasons I asked Silverbaldes for help alot was due to them all being in high postions such as the High Judge, Knight Commander of Renatus, a General in the Army and High Constable, But still i seeked help from the Prince when needed. And Back during me High Constable ship I asked the public many times "What si wrong with me military?" And I fixed almost all issues, I even found out who was corrupting me guard and abuseed it jails as his tourture room, His name was Tamara a lad who everyone did not suspect. But back on topic, I never lost? And the war debt was payed by me due to Eze'kiel not wanting to, So I paied it off to keep my people safe.

*Awaits*

Stares into Braxis' eyes for a long time, and then continues speaking in a soft manner...

Aye, I know you weren't a Phoenix. But if you really cared about the people, you would have supported the Purge. Indeed. The original plan was, if you aren't aware the slaughter of guards and wrong doers. If you thought ill of Tarus, you would have helped that Ingot woman get what she wanted. Revenge. *pulling his mask off, he reveals the face of Nahhvak Bloodvoice, once a personal protector of The High Priest of Oren and Renatus- Hogarth.

I fought in the Purge. But for whom did I? Well, for you, against Tarus. I made a secret way into not only Galahar, but to the walls and even the Keep. If you resented Tarus' rule, and were a strong leader- you would have helped me and Ingot.

Also, something that proves your weakness was the fact that the bandits in that one keep near Galahar were the terror of the roads for that long a time. Fact is, Galahar was the dwelling of criminals, and even though it was clear to us all, you waited so long to do anything about the injustice done by the guards.

There was a lot of complaining about the guards, and you made no effort to make what was truly wrong right. I agree, you fixed a lot of things. But, everybody's main issue was that they were unlawful thugs doing whatever the hell they wanted.

You left Renatus when things were dark. You abandoned your people, and from what I can see, you would want Oren and the honor of men again. Am I right? Tell me before you say anything else. And then say why you didn't work towards your goal, for it interests me why giving up your life to achieve what ye wish, like I did, is such a hard thing to do.

You believe in unification? Prove it. Prove it with deeds, instead of words.

*takes his hood off, revealing his grey hair, awaiting Braxis' response while ignoring the lad on the side*

[｡◕‿‿◕｡ Hawk Whitestorm 715]

An unknown speaker speaks up

It will be nearly impossible to reunite the humans. It's been decades since the schism, and there are deep seeds of hate sewn between Hanseti and Renatus. Though Hanseti is attempting right now to reunite the humans through conquest. No doubt, if Hanseti finishes off Renatus, they will soon turn on Salvus.

[Coconuta 141]

((Before you read this.. take no ooc hate, I actually like all of the things that have came of the war and think that the way people are doing it is causing fun to come to a lot of people from it, and intend no ooc hate to people))

*Shouts back from somewhere in the crowd*

"Gaius was a warmongerer and a un just man, he stole from the poor, and burnt down their homes, for what? what did he gain other than power? and then, when Enor gave the throne to Gaius, what do you think people would do, seeing the man who burnt their homes and destroyed farms rise up? they rose to, to help the nation and provided jobs, money, and lives for the poor.."

*Starts sounding even louder, anger in him*

"And then Hanseti did what, not negotiate with people, or asked what they thought of the nation.. they decided to attack by using their deceptive skills to gain allies.."

Shouts out in a final outblast

"Now rents may be failing, but no matter how many times it falls, people will see the injustice of the land, and rise once more.. renatus may fail.. but their ideals will not, hanseti can't provide for both sides of the land.. and instead of offering 'Peace' and helping renatus, they instead chose not to negotiate, and to lead armies to renatus, burning more lives and destroying many a peoples way of life.."

*Begins to say more, but decides against it, and walks off, muttering as his last words*

"I will harm hanseti, in every way I can, even if they win the war.. until they help the people, not monger for power.. and others would see the harm hanseti has caused in time.."