Olog Hai

[Dretus 14]

These are mainly Ned_Lud's ideas but just expanded.

Origins

Vugnash ruled the orcs in Asulon. Many clans contested for the favor of Vugnash and the honour of being a War'Goth clan.One of these clans was the Olog clan. They had very selective breeding where only the biggest and strongest orcs could breed and they had to be of Olog blood. This produced very large and strong orcs.When the four races were wiped from the face of Asiulon a few of the Olgs managed to survive.They were soon found by the Mori'Quessar while looking for shelter. The Mori saw potential in the orcs and enslaved them straight away. The Mori realised that with selective breeding and certain diets the orcs could become bigger and stronger. This would also kill off the other weaker orcs who had survived.

The problem was that the Mori had no way in which they could communicate with the orcs and resorted to violence and other crude methods to get their results. All the weaker orcs were sacrificed and females were cared for more than the males. More males were being produced so that meant more guards or labourers to do the more tiring work for the Mori.

The Mori couldn't see in sunlight and this meant they couldn't go out and hunt for animals that were on the surface. The Mori saw that the orcs could hunt for them. Most of the orcs would eat most of the meant they got to sustain their larger bodies.

The orcs formed a close community in the slave pens and grew closer. The older orcs told the cubs stories of Krug and of the Olog clan. The Mori didn't care about this because the orcs were forced to do simple jobs after being shown what to do. The orcs were never taught how to speak in the Mori language so their was never any verbal communication between the two races.

[Dretus 14]

Will write more soon

[Blawharag 277]

Something I should point out: I like the idea of a clan of Orcs that were enslaved by the Mori for a time (though they should either be actively attempting to earn freedom or have already earned it) however, the little part before that is redundant in terms of Orcish society.

Orcs already selectively breed strongest with strongest and cull off their weak. The biggest, baddest Orcs breed with the biggest and baddest to form even bigger and badder Orcs. To say the Olog clan did this is basically like saying "The Olog clan bread like every other Orc clan". Selective breeding alone would not make the Olog Orcs bigger or stronger than any other Orc. Nor would some extreme environmental consequence (such as enslavement by the Mori) because Orcs already put themselves through the most extreme and harsh conditions possible.

If you wanted to achieve a clan that was larger and stronger than average Orcs, it would have to be through some third factor. Keep in mind however, anything these Orcs would to for the increased physical prowess would be mimed by the other Orcs in society unless there was strict reasoning not to do it. You cannot simply say "Shamans used magic to make them larger and stronger" otherwise every Orc would do it. I would suggest adding a draw back. Maybe something that looks like this:

The Olog Clan discovered that a river, the Blackstone River, possessed properties of physical transformation. The river flowed from a nearby spider den and contained a diluted spider venom. When mixed with fermented red flowers, which spiked the testosterone levels of the water and exaggerated the effects of the spider venom, infant Orcs would grow to be 50% larger and stronger than average Orcs. Unfortunately the Olog Clan lacked alchemical knowledge when this practice became mainstream. It was realized that the water caused severe cognative reasoning deficiencies. Specifically those that drank this became unable to process strategy on both broad and specific levels. The Olog Clan Orcs became unable to develop battle tactics, they were also unable to process the finer points of combative techniques, resorting to a more straight-forward "hack away at the enemy and hope you hit him good" approach. The result was terrifyingly strong Orcs who could rend through armor with almost no effort. However their inaptness with weapons and inability to form proper strategy limited their use in combat to expressly shock-troop functions. Olog Clan Orcs do not hold leadership positions in the Krughai and are generally unsuited for most work. However, in battle they are often used as a sort of mini-siege weapon. Teams will lift portcullises or be directed at enemy structures where their raw strength can be most effective.

That would give them a niche, not the most combat effective Orcs (though not entirely helpless) however they can work in teams to do structural damage that other Orcs would be unable to preform without the aid of Goblin Siege Weaponry. This way normal Orcs would be better at straight combat and therefore would not want to share in the Olog's rituals, however the Ologs are still useful and contribute to Orcish society in a helpful manner (as basically a light and mobile siege weapon to supplement the Goblin Siege weapons which can be heavier and less mobile, but more devastating) making their ritualistic practices a good idea so long as it is confined within the clan itself and not taken up by the entire Warnation.

While the above would certainly be interesting my belief is that you should just leave out the idea of them being "Larger and stronger" and stick to the Mori-slavery thing as your clan's uniqueness.

[Noahjam325 53]

It might also be interesting to intermingling some Mori culture with orcish culture as another trait that sets your clan apart. You recognized X, Y, and Z as useful and decided to start using them as well.

[Dretus 14]

I am going to add Olog's journal on how they increased in height and also a mass breakout from the Mori

Ill add in more stuff tonight

[Sultan 3953]

Do not include mori on this, and Olog-hai well not be native to the land.

[Ned Lud 1260]

If you're involving Mori in this lore, you really ought to get with some of the Mori leadership on it. I never did, because it's always just been a rough idea I was kicking around. If you're trying to establish something official, definitely get with the Mori to hash this out and make sure that they have their input on it. I have no idea who even plays Mori these days, but talk to Mogroka for starters, to work out the details. He's probably got a good grasp on Mori lore.

I'll put some of my ideas into writing soonish.

Also, if you're going to -1 his post, at least post some constructive feedback. This is a work in progress for orcish lore and a possible subrace. If you're not an orc or a Mori, then piss off altogether with your silent objections.

[Dretus 14]

Ill talk to serenity about the mnori involvement

[Sultan 3953]

I wish I can tell who -1 the post, Although I am the head mori gm, and its a no from me because it goes against our lore also.

[Dretus 14]

I wrote it quite badly and didn't write a lot to do with orc lore

[Blawharag 277]

While I think a mori deal would be interesting, it does brutalize the lore. Maybe just redesign the clan altogether? Both of the selling points of this clan are pretty shakey. If you want, I am more than happy to help take any ideas you have and find ways to mesh them with the lore, just contact me when you get the chance with some ideas you are interested in.

*Edit*

It's not that you wrote it badly, it just needs a little lore tune-up is all.

[Sultan 3953]

The problem with them being here is, we already made it clear that all the orcs died because, of the shuudruu. And if there was olooghai around Shuudruu would have had a rough time.

[Dretus 14]

Can the Shuu Druu travel across all terrain?

[Blawharag 277]

Technically they can, short of more solid rock formations. However the amount of effort they would expend on traveling through the more dense materials (like less sturdy layers of rock, or dirt) would fatigue them faster than they could replenish themselves (without a very solid source of food) therefore they really spend all their time in the desert where food is admittedly more scarce however ease of travel coupled by the ability to hibernate near-indefinitely until food makes itself available allow the Shurr'Dru to live comfortable lives.

[Danny 2232]

Moved to the Great Library. It shall be sorted into appropriate category shortly.