Bawd 222 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Is it that 'Evolution' just use fewer words? As far as I can simplify, Creationism believes 'God created the World', Evolutionists believe 'the Big Bang had rendered the materials necessary for the world to evolve to this point in time'? Just curious :D Evolution is a theory with evidence. There is residual noise in space from the Big Bang, for example. Creationism says a big man spoke the world and it happened, and it was created as the centre of the universe (Oh, wait, no, it isn't? Oh, no it still happened. Obviously.) Evolution is based on studies. Men like Galileo Galilei, Charles Darwin and the likes of them are men to be respected and honoured. Not a deity who may or may not exist, who can speak worlds into existence. Please cite more specific situations then just saying the Renaissance. That doesn't help very much and I'm tired as hell and a bit groggy from drinking. You asked for more of these contradictions and I gave you simple instructions on how to find them. I gave my reasoning for not posting them here in my last post directed at you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Aus Shitpost 891 Share Posted October 18, 2012 You asked for more of these contradictions and I gave you simple instructions on how to find them. I gave my reasoning for not posting them here in my last post directed at you. PM them to me then, I want my laugh without having to work for it and if you don't go ahead with it that just proves you can't find anything solid-er then mud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danic 352 Share Posted October 18, 2012 In an attempt to cool this brewing flame war, I shall lighten the mood with this video. Now let's all pull up our pants and give an actually discussion before we degrade into a mindless bickering flame war. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoblivion 532 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The Gospel of Matthew originated at the end of the first century AD. The Gospel of Mark was completed circa 70 AD. The Gospel of Luke originates in the time between 60 and 100 AD. The Gospel of John was completed circa 90 AD. If Jesus would have been crucified in the time between 30 and 35 AD. 100 - 30 = 70 70 =/= 200 Learn2Math please. Also, for the record, I'm in the middle ground here and I'm quite well versed in both sides of the argument, but seriously, if you're going to argue, do it right and KNOW what you're talking about. My apologies, I always thought that the Bible was written by the descendants of the disciples. Regardless, the base argument still stands. Neither Jesus, nor the disciples who wrote the gospels were around at the time of creation and there is no proof that Jesus was the son of God apart from his word alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Aus Shitpost 891 Share Posted October 18, 2012 "Galileo Galilei" Also lol'ing at the fact that this man was a devout catholic (although supremely arrogant). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavejammers 328 Share Posted October 18, 2012 This reminds me of the time when me and a cute girl I know laughed like hell when we read the children-bible. Ssly, how could Noah have food and clean water for all animals on the earth x2 in 40 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawd 222 Share Posted October 18, 2012 "Galileo Galilei" Also lol'ing at the fact that this man was a devout catholic (although supremely arrogant). And? He made important discoveries that advanced the field of astronomy, he allegedly founded the Illuminati, through which he supposedly advocated no violence, although if rumours here and there are to be believed it descended into that, and the Catholic Church banned his books because they questioned the way they taught Creation, and most of all, he was right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Option 9652 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Evolution is a theory with evidence. There is residual noise in space from the Big Bang, for example. Creationism says a big man spoke the world and it happened, and it was created as the centre of the universe (Oh, wait, no, it isn't? Oh, no it still happened. Obviously.) Evolution is based on studies. Men like Galileo Galilei, Charles Darwin and the likes of them are men to be respected and honoured. Not a deity who may or may not exist, who can speak worlds into existence. You asked for more of these contradictions and I gave you simple instructions on how to find them. I gave my reasoning for not posting them here in my last post directed at you. No no, I was replying to you saying the part about Ockham's Razor. Pray tell your not becoming militant with someone who is NOT Christian and thus I am not trying to attack you, but simply put out random points to bring more discussion. Do not attempt to become aggressive, Ill give benefit of doubt and not assume, but them words be playing games with me ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawd 222 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I'm not trying to be aggressive, but sometimes mild aggression may seep in. How am I to justify a thought, if not putting the whole thought there to be justified? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavejammers 328 Share Posted October 18, 2012 13. The Bible's Witness The Bible is true. The history of the Bible is true. The words of the Bible concerning our origins were given to men to write down, by God, who was the only living being present. We were not there! God said He created the universe. God said He created all living things. We know that life is much more than chemicals. God put His life into Adam and that life has been transferred from generation to generation all the way down to us! I've completly lost all faith in humanity... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego XBOX 915 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I've completly lost all faith in humanity... I know right... and for those still saying evolution doesn't exist, refer to my Evolution for Dummies... Once you have read it, tell me how evolution is false... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawd 222 Share Posted October 18, 2012 13. The Bible's Witness The Bible is true. The history of the Bible is true. The words of the Bible concerning our origins were given to men to write down, by God, who was the only living being present. We were not there! God said He created the universe. God said He created all living things. We know that life is much more than chemicals. God put His life into Adam and that life has been transferred from generation to generation all the way down to us! By this, which most of my Christian friends will even state is naught but a morality story, Eve bore Adam only sons. Due to this, either the rest of the people popped out of the ground or something, or the sons reproduced with Eve. So, we're all the incestuous bastards of sinners who defied the Abrahamic God? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavejammers 328 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Also 2 questions for christians: Did god float in space before he created the world? How did god come to the world? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beneh 227 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Infact. I'm going to bring up a different side to the argument here. Whilst I dont believe this , nobody is paying attention too it and are only paying attention to religion vs atheism , yet there is another poll option ; ' Aliens/Unkown Life Forms ? ' Maybe your all wrong here , who knows 'eh. Now once again I'll say I dont believe it , albeit there are some really interesting things regarding this viewpoint and I thought I'd mix it up as only two viewpoints are being shown here , whilst there are quite a few poll options. I'll start with Egypt. Egyptian Models & Drawings. I'll start off with this video , which gives quite a nice overview of it all Now. This video is only the tip of the iceberg but take a look at those drawings , on one of them a clearly defined rudder is shown and wings are located at the bottom of the objects wheras on insects , they are located at the top. That's also quite an interesting photo isn't it , having a similar look to that of Modern Day Space Suits. These two pieces of evidence alone beg the question if the Ancient Egyptians really were visited by an unknown species whom acted as Gods amongst them. I also saw some interesting models that had almost the exact shape of modern jets today , albeit the video was 7 minutes long so I decided to just leave it out , however feel free to look for yourself. Remember , I've given two pieces here and there are many more out there. And I mean many. I wont be discussing the Pyramids as there are many more intersting things I want to move onto , but dont forget the pyramids ! Mysterious Structures that are not possible for mankind to have created [ At that time ] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gomD3W7HlaA Now this is very long. I dont expect you to watch it all , but even within the first 2-5 minutes , you get a glimpse of some of the structures. Now for one of these , 100 tonne , 200 tonne and even 300 tonne rocks were carried for miles. They were then supposedly cut and articulated with ancient tools , yet we need diamond to articulate such tools today and it's almost physically impossible for these people to have done what they did , given their time period. Bear in mind , there are hundreds of rocks here and no , there is no physical explanation officially accepted as to how this was made. I've talked about two sites here. There are many more out there and in that video over 3 are looked at in great detail , one of them being the site I gave a very brief explanation of above. I made this post just to get you thinking really as for many of these sites , there is no accepted explanation. And last but not least... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawd 222 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Infact. I'm going to bring up a different side to the argument here. Whilst I dont believe this , nobody is paying attention too it and are only paying attention to religion vs atheism , yet there is another poll option ; ' Aliens/Unkown Life Forms ? ' Maybe your all wrong here , who knows 'eh. Now once again I'll say I dont believe it , albeit there are some really interesting things regarding this viewpoint and I thought I'd mix it up as only two viewpoints are being shown here , whilst there are quite a few poll options. I'll start with Egypt. Egyptian Models & Drawings. I'll start off with this video , which gives quite a nice overview of it all Now. This video is only the tip of the iceberg but take a look at those drawings , on one of them a clearly defined rudder is shown and wings are located at the bottom of the objects wheras on insects , they are located at the top. That's also quite an interesting photo isn't it , having a similar look to that of Modern Day Space Suits. These two pieces of evidence alone beg the question if the Ancient Egyptians really were visited by an unknown species whom acted as Gods amongst them. I also saw some interesting models that had almost the exact shape of modern jets today , albeit the video was 7 minutes long so I decided to just leave it out , however feel free to look for yourself. Remember , I've given two pieces here and there are many more out there. And I mean many. I wont be discussing the Pyramids as there are many more intersting things I want to move onto , but dont forget the pyramids ! Mysterious Structures that are not possible for mankind to have created [ At that time ] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gomD3W7HlaA Now this is very long. I dont expect you to watch it all , but even within the first 2-5 minutes , you get a glimpse of some of the structures. Now for one of these , 100 tonne , 200 tonne and even 300 tonne rocks were carried for miles. They were then supposedly cut and articulated with ancient tools , yet we need diamond to articulate such tools today and it's almost physically impossible for these people to have done what they did , given their time period. Bear in mind , there are hundreds of rocks here and no , there is no physical explanation officially accepted as to how this was made. I've talked about two sites here. There are many more out there and in that video over 3 are looked at in great detail , one of them being the site I gave a very brief explanation of above. I made this post just to get you thinking really as for many of these sites , there is no accepted explanation. And last but not least... I would have respected that argument, but you actually referred to the History Channel for evidence about aliens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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