Orc Rp Reforms

[ΚΨΙΞ 710]

No, I'd expect them to go "Let's protect our land to the last man (orc) and die with honor against these scum, taking as many as we can with us to Krug's Halls (Their heaven, however it is called).

 

The words of Bruenor Battlhammer from a DnD book are perfect for this; "Now's as good a day as any to die". 

 

They know they will die in battle one day, what better way than with your brothers at your side, killing the honorless, protecting your lands?

 

"What better way than with your brothers at your side, killing the honourless, protecting your lands?" Because the last time I charged into the White Rose by myself I turned back and everybody was fleeing down the mountain. They don't follow they don't really care.  Heres proof so you know im not lying, or trying to cover my tracks. Keep in mind I am Voltug.

 

[Blundermore 2741]

I think in that case a few of the orcs caught a case of the "Iwantusprotectus-myitemus", a fairly common disease that occurs mostly during PVP events and battles.  

 

But anyways, the way I see it, the Orcs need to change, to make my post shorter, or else just continue to waste away. That and to perhaps add more depth to what an Orc is past "An unstoppable killing machine tank thing that does not feel pain, is fast, is immune to everything etc".

[Praetor 1550]

"What better way than with your brothers at your side, killing the honourless, protecting your lands?" Because the last time I charged into the White Rose by myself I turned back and everybody was fleeing down the mountain. They don't follow they don't really care.  Heres proof so you know im not lying, or trying to cover my tracks. Keep in mind I am Voltug.

 

 

I don't get what you mean there, could you explain differently?

[Arteh 1837]

Allow white washes the ability to be accepted fully as an Orc slightly easier, instead of just hunting them down and killing them. That would be a start. Next, actually develop proper culture, right now Orcs act like cavemen, there is no culture truly, it's just a kill or be killed culture. You need to develop the culture more so to make it more interesting for people to get involved with, not just whoever has the biggest swinging stick is the Rex. Build off of your shaman culture a bit as there is a lot orcs do not take into account there. Tone down the "blah" to make it easier for people to understand OOC'ly, yes, it's good and all that you are taking it apon yourself to accurately portray your character's speech, but not when I cannot understand when someone is saying "left or right" which, for some reason translated into "lauthed door Rigggiddthtor" in this certain piece of rp or something like that, which made what would've only taken a few moments to respond a lot more difficult. Focus more on RP and less on gathering people with PVP skill, it is an RP server first and formost, good orcs should be defined by how good they are at rp, not how good they are at PVP, that will help combat the stigma.

 

Add interesting strengths and weaknesses to Orcs, right now Orcs are super strong, super fast, immune to most diseases, can use magic, are smart, are big, can resist pain, mature in three weeks etc etc etc...

 

There are no downsides to being an orc past you cannot talk properly. Add some weaknesses to their race F.F.S as right now Orcs have strength after strength after strength with literally one or two weaknesses.

 

Blood lust isn't much of a weakness, in fact, it simply promotes the ideals of being able to use all these strengths against others all the time.

 

There is nothing interesting about orcs right now I'm sorry to say. All you are to me is a bloody beating stick of mary sue and jonny daves that are extremely overpowered at the moment with no interesting backstory past chestpounding "huurr" we are da best. There's no culture, there is nothing interesting at all. Someone asked me to play an orc a while back and I had to decline the offer simply because I just didn't like the RP. It is ALL focused around war and fighting. Even though the shamanistic stuff is a lot more interesting to me as at least that HAS culture. Rest of the orcs though? You're born, you live, you fight you die. That is it.

 

You might argue "But that is what orcs are, we can't change this", I'm sorry to say this but the orcs are simply being squandered as a race at the moment into just being a tool of war and less of a player base. That and cultures change over time no matter what, it doesn't always stay the same. Look at the humans, their entire culture has changed. Look at the Elves, their culture has changed, as has the Dwarves. The Orcs however? You're still Rping the basic line set down for orcs since the begining of Aegis.

 

 

• Whitewash Orcs are whitewashes for a reason. If they show change and are willing to return to the Uzg they can do so. Since I have been Rex (Almost 2 months) not ONE whitewash has come up asking to be unbanished and welcomed back to the Uzg.
• I immediately changed the system how the Rex is chosen. (Read Orc Clan System) I've noticed exactly that. The leader wasn't determined by their leadership skills but rather who can click the fastest.
• Shaman culture is a really big priority for me to focus on as I have been pushing for our current shamans to teach others and get more Shamans. The ones we have now are barely active.
• Our weaknesses? Every race is at our throats. We have no food source. We live in the desert and aren't smart. They're only a few who RP like that.
• We need to focus on our culture and enhance our RP rather than just being war based it should be a bit more independent and we should focus on enhancing the way we RP together as a community (The Orcs).
• PvP? We RP fight when there is a need for RP fight. If it is 5 v 1 persay or something of the type we cannot RP fight as that is just a big mess. We offer the opponent OOCly if they'd prefer to PvP or RP fight this out and we go from there.

[Kaiser 2347]

Although I am not an orc, I have shouldn't be putting my hat in this, I must say that the mean, rude, stupid, big, grunting, angry orcs, are cliche. Yes, it is their lore to be such, but one orc is just a clone o the last, angry, hungry, stupid. I feel like having orcs that differ from that with their own twist but still keep to the compounds of original orcs are the most interesting. This being a very kind orc who's stupid, or a very angry orc who actually has a brain.

[ΚΨΙΞ 710]

I don't get what you mean there, could you explain differently?

Im trying to say when one Orc leads a charge the others look to the opponents numbers and run away. Its not really something we can change, some run into large hordes of enemies like you want and the others don't. It depends on the situation.

[Arteh 1837]

Also. This is a suggestion thread. DO NOT turn this into a flame war I don't wanna see that ****. I'm here looking for ideas on how we can improve our RP not flaming.

[Praetor 1550]

Im trying to say when one Orc leads a charge the others look to the opponents numbers and run away. Its not really something we can change, some run into large hordes of enemies like you want and the others don't. It depends on the situation.

 

Then you say the problem is exactly what I said it was?

 

If you follow all I said in this thread, it wouldn't be only one running into a charge but all of them.

[ΚΨΙΞ 710]

Although I am not an orc, I have shouldn't be putting my hat in this, I must say that the mean, rude, stupid, big, grunting, angry orcs, are cliche. Yes, it is their lore to be such, but one orc is just a clone o the last, angry, hungry, stupid. I feel like having orcs that differ from that with their own twist but still keep to the compounds of original orcs are the most interesting. This being a very kind orc who's stupid, or a very angry orc who actually has a brain.

 

Not every Orcs are an exact copy of each other. Take Tristanx7's character for example, he is a really strong brute but extremely dumb. He can hardly think for himself and follows the Rex's order. If the Rex doesn't tell him to do something, he won't do it.

[Blundermore 2741]

Not every Orcs are an exact copy of each other. Take Tristanx7's character for example, he is a really strong brute but extremely dumb. He can hardly think for himself and follows the Rex's order. If the Rex doesn't tell him to do something, he won't do it.

You might want to revise your statement, this statement doesn't really say anything apart from adding to the stigma Cow was bringing up

[ΚΨΙΞ 710]

Then you say the problem is exactly what I said it was?

 

If you follow all I said in this thread, it wouldn't be only one running into a charge but all of them.

 

So you are basically asking us to lose every battle like we always do? We want to win battles as well not lose them.

 

 

You might want to revise your statement

 

Not all Orcs are dumb I don't need to keep telling you this. You are a lore master you should know.

[Praetor 1550]

So you are basically asking us to lose every battle like we always do? We want to win battles as well not lose them.

 

No, once again. 

Their is a difference between last stand suicide by charging and simply never backing down from a fight.

 

It doesn't mean you couldn't use strategy, etc. It means you would just not give up till the last Orc is dead. After all, if you always do run you will loose more battles than if you stand and fight , so I'm not sure what you're getting to there.

[Kaiser 2347]

Not every Orcs are an exact copy of each other. Take Tristanx7's character for example, he is a really strong brute but extremely dumb. He can hardly think for himself and follows the Rex's order. If the Rex doesn't tell him to do something, he won't do it.

 

Um....

not as an insult, but you just described almost every orc there is...

Like I said, not many orcs vary from big and stupid.

[ΚΨΙΞ 710]

Um....

not as an insult, but you just described almost every orc there is...

Like I said, not many orcs vary from big and stupid.

 

When I mean a large brute I mean an Orc who is 2x as strong as any other Orc. 

 

Think about it this way.

 

An Orc from LotC equals to an Uruk-Hai from LotR.

Tristans character from LotC equals to a troll from LotR.

 

 

No, once again. 

 

Their is a difference between last stand suicide by charging and simply never backing down from a fight.

 

It doesn't mean you couldn't use strategy, etc. It means you would just not give up till the last Orc is dead. After all, if you always do run you will loose more battles than if you stand and fight , so I'm not sure what you're getting to there.

 

But we do always die to the last man. Im not understanding what your getting at here. Either we win or we die. Yesterday the Dwarves attacked us and won the battle but there where still Orcs left so we charged the Dwarves and killed as much as we could. In the end we lost. All Orc battles end in 2 ways. We win, or we all die.

[ΚΨΙΞ 710]

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