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John (Zevandir)

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    [There is no magic involved in those creatures. They are all lore

    friendly. Frankly the MAT have no say on what the island possesses. They

    only have a say on the mana-pools, which was voided.]

Well, if you really want to highlight massive holes in existing lore for the Lore Team to pull out the emergency Void And Deny Blaster then go ahead. If you don't have people to actually RP as this horde of creatures, then they aren't valid for a warclaim. The orcs have loads of Lur Wolves. They don't say "oh no you cant attack we have sign wolvesw". If you have the players to RP these things, then use them. Give them swords to represent claws and get them to defend the island. If you don't have the players to RP them, then they are not valid for the purposes of a warclaim.  Nobody else gets to defend their island with a Bambi Army of oddly human-minded wildlife.

 

I'll repeat, if they can walk onto your island and kill you all, then they can walk onto your island and kill you all. If you want to defend your island, get a wall, OOC shields are notoriously brittle.

Besides, if they slaughter anything that approaches, why aren't the current inhabitants dead? Unless you're going to tell me the current inhabitants "befriended" them...

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Locked until Supremacy and Dsdevil come up with a compromise/conclusion.

Unlocked as per request.

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After a discussion the following has been concluded:

  • The Gavernach either died out of old age or was slain by the order of the White Rose. Precisely what happened is unknown however it had no offspring and thus there is no violent fish defending the island.
  • Both the Wolves and the Spiders could not have been fed on such a small island by one person. They have also died.
  • Hooks never inhabited the island.
  • No other violent animal, plant or creature inhabits the island.

It is also noteworthy the island has no magical properties which make it innately more defendable than any other location. Finally, I will note this does not accept or deny the war claim. I am simply noting what is possibly on the island (which at this point is nothing but the player inhabitants).

 

The war claim still must, like all war claims, be agreed upon between the two parties involved. Sorry for any inconvenience caused and have a good day.

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After a discussion the following has been concluded:

  • The Gavernach either died out of old age or was slain by the order of the White Rose. Precisely what happened is unknown however it had no offspring and thus there is no violent fish defending the island.
  • Both the Wolves and the Spiders could not have been fed on such a small island by one person. They have also died.
  • Hooks never inhabited the island.
  • No other violent animal, plant or creature inhabits the island.

It is also noteworthy the island has no magical properties which make it innately more defendable than any other location. Finally, I will note this does not accept or deny the war claim. I am simply noting what is possibly on the island (which at this point is nothing but the player inhabitants).

 

The war claim still must, like all war claims, be agreed upon between the two parties involved. Sorry for any inconvenience caused and have a good day.

<3 Ya. Please do not respond, others, as the situation is now being dealt with. Results shall be posted shortly.

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((Warclaim is going ahead, and has been sorted as per Supremacy's final post, though nothing past the WC itself is as of yet confirmed.

 

Lock please <3))

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((I have asked a GM if I am allowed to deny the continuation of this warclaim and this GM said yes. After some events in a skype chat, I have decided to deny this warclaim. I just recently got the island back (1 day ago) and I'd like to RP a bit with and start developing some stories with it before it is assaulted by these armies. So, in fact, I do not consent to this warclaim. If it is to be taken, it will have to be by force of the staff. Thank you.))

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((I have asked a GM if I am allowed to deny the continuation of this warclaim and this GM said yes. After some events in a skype chat, I have decided to deny this warclaim. I just recently got the island back (1 day ago) and I'd like to RP a bit with and start developing some stories with it before it is assaulted by these armies. So, in fact, I do not consent to this warclaim. If it is to be taken, it will have to be by force of the staff. Thank you.))

 

[i'm glad for your choice, Ds. I put a lot of work into that island. So you and ttwesten can enjoy it when you return. Have fun with it.]

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((Warclaim is going ahead, and has been sorted as per Supremacy's final post, though nothing past the WC itself is as of yet confirmed.

 

Lock please <3))

((To my knowledge the current owner of Lich Island has gone back on what they said and will not be accepting the war claim for the reason "Yea, nevermind. I can now see it won't be easy at all to have a fun and fluid RP event. Denying the WarClaim. Thank you to those that were resonable." I will be talking to a mod or admin, as there isnt sufficient RP reasoning to deny this war claim. I would like to add that when Lich Island was taken from us through OOC means with NO RP whatsoever, we just logged on to find our perms missing, we did not create a massive fuss. I graciously accepted it as Viper had recently posted about not putting too much import on MC items. Kraal was aware that we would be war claiming him in future to create cool RP. 

 

Its disapointing that said party is behaving in a manner that is completely different to how we behaved when we lost our island purely through OOC. If there isn't a legitimate RP reason for not accepting the war claim then I will pleasantly ask a mod or admin to intervene and view both sides of the argument.

EDIT: Also said person has requested that the war claim be denied because they have only had it for a day and want to create some RP stories, I would like to add that we had the island for three hours when we were war claimed, once again disappointed that we haven't received the same courtesy we gave you guys.

EDIT 2: Please refrain from voicing your opinion community, unless you are a mod, admin or said person who currently possesses Lich Island do not post, this doesn't have to get messier than it already is.))

EDIT 3: I did not see Ds already post, but you get the geist of my message.

 

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((To my knowledge the current owner of Lich Island has gone back on what they said and will not be accepting the war claim for the reason "Yea, nevermind. I can now see it won't be easy at all to have a fun and fluid RP event. Denying the WarClaim. Thank you to those that were resonable." I will be talking to a mod or admin, as there isnt sufficient RP reasoning to deny this war claim. I would like to add that when Lich Island was taken from us through OOC means with NO RP whatsoever, we just logged on to find our perms missing, we did not create a massive fuss. I graciously accepted it as Viper had recently posted about not putting too much import on MC items. Kraal was aware that we would be war claiming him in future to create cool RP. 

 

Its disapointing that said party is behaving in a manner that is completely different to how we behaved when we lost our island purely through OOC. If there isn't a legitimate RP reason for not accepting the war claim then I will pleasantly ask a mod or admin to intervene and view both sides of the argument.

EDIT: Also said person has requested that the war claim be denied because they have only had it for a day and want to create some RP stories, I would like to add that we had the island for three hours when we were war claimed, once again disappointed that we haven't received the same courtesy we gave you guys.

EDIT 2: Please refrain from voicing your opinion community, unless you are a mod, admin or said person who currently possesses Lich Island do not post, this doesn't have to get messier than it already is.))

 

 

  [Actually Deco told me you guys were greifing the island, and she revoked your perms. Ds has every right to deny the warclaim. You were in no way the past owner of the island, DecoLamb was, which gave her the authority to kick you off the island and give it to me. I suggest you chill of Ds and find another island.]

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  [Actually Deco told me you guys were greifing the island, and she revoked your perms. Ds has every right to deny the warclaim. You were in no way the past owner of the island, DecoLamb was, which gave her the authority to kick you off the island and give it to me. I suggest you chill of Ds and find another island.]

((Kraal to my knowledge you are not the owner of Lich Island, and as such do not post. Deco simply lied if she told you we were griefing the island we literally did not break one block on that island, we had it for three hours, so that is void. And RP wise I was the owner of the island, also like to add that Deco gave us the island, we thanked her heaps for it, either way we as a guild were utterly ripped off, and to point it out I received perms as owner for the island before Deco even if she did receive it through OOC means,))

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  [Actually Deco told me you guys were greifing the island, and she revoked your perms. Ds has every right to deny the warclaim. You were in no way the past owner of the island, DecoLamb was, which gave her the authority to kick you off the island and give it to me. I suggest you chill of Ds and find another island.]

((Can you please stop denying everything we say? And let the actual owner of the island respond, you're just starting arguments for no reason other than to annoy us. Also, we never even destroyed or placed a single block on the island. Deco removed the perms for a completely different reason))

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((Kraal to my knowledge you are not the owner of Lich Island, and as such do not post. Deco simply lied if she told you we were griefing the island we literally did not break one block on that island, we had it for three hours, so that is void. And RP wise I was the owner of the island, also like to add that Deco gave us the island, we thanked her heaps for it, either way we as a guild were utterly ripped off, and to point it out I received perms as owner for the island before Deco even if she did receive it through OOC means,))

 

  [i'm technically the owner because I made a 130 day roll back, I basically made the island its former self so it wasn't so messed up by the white rose and the wolven guard. I gave the island to dsdevil because he deserved it more then anyone else. I would have gave it to my best friend, but no, dsdevil because it practically made it. I wouldn't want to see it go back into someone's hands which it would be destroyed/scarred again.]

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  [i'm technically the owner because I made a 130 day roll back, I basically made the island its former self so it wasn't so messed up by the white rose and the wolven guard. I gave the island to dsdevil because he deserved it more then anyone else. I would have gave it to my best friend, but no, dsdevil because it practically made it. I wouldn't want to see it go back into someone's hands which it would be destroyed/scarred again.]

((Destroyed and scarred? We had it for 3 hours and didnt destroy a block. Minea just told you that, or are you completely ignoring everything he said?))

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  [i'm technically the owner because I made a 130 day roll back, I basically made the island its former self so it wasn't so messed up by the white rose and the wolven guard. I gave the island to dsdevil because he deserved it more then anyone else. I would have gave it to my best friend, but no, dsdevil because it practically made it. I wouldn't want to see it go back into someone's hands which it would be destroyed/scarred again.]

((Dude seriously you need to shut it, we didnt bloody touch a block, one single block. So please just stop this utter bull, and once again you have officially left the server, so do not create flame posts.))

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((Destroyed and scarred? We had it for 3 hours and didnt destroy a block. Minea just told you that, or are you completely ignoring everything he said?))

 

 

  [You guys made ankle-biters around the island, lol. Deco told me, the White Rose built their silly thing. It would be pointless to the wolven guard because all it is is an island with large man-eating fishes, a long cave system with a Lich that will brutally murder you. It isn't like the fort it used to be, it's actually a beautiful island.]

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