Lima

(( Well as a GMT prophet there isn't much I can do about that. *shrug* I asked a long time ago about 15 people and people decided it was the best time. Now everyone complains, want it moved to a Saturday or something?))

Dwarves RP greed a lot. We had a whole political insurrection and such over the fact someone "Mishandled a relic." Aka... they wanted said relic. We are all pretty greedy tbh. We steal from each other so much its almost socialist.

LORI GOES AND TRIES TO DO THEM EVERY THURSDAY AT 7GMT. HE ADVERTISES IT, AND NON OF YOU SHOW UP.

USE LAGO'S IDEA.

An official response it posted. I vote agaisnt. Its a draw. Beleron Irongut's vote waits. A greater detailed response comes. "First and foremost the first accusation stands due to the kingdom's lack of resources to complete the temple. It would be a high heresy to worship in a incomplete shrine and disrespect the gods. Thus sermons have been repeatedly lead to the shrines situated around the Kingdom." "Secondly, I was never presented any such shrine beforehand. All accusations were found false and the location had never come to my eyes or to my ear. I would be able to effectively dispose of it, however due to the terms of the trial I must work to create a sum of three thousand minas." "Lastly, I did not assault the King. Dizzy Irongrinder assaulted the king according to the trial. I merely watched and was guilty through association of "mistreatment of a relic". This was due to the fact Midgor was very unhappy that he could not be a powerhungry shekeler." "Beleron Ironguts deciding vote awaits."

I feel freedom of role play is nice in ideal but could only come to pander some peoples god complexes. LoTC I think can be put as a good analogy to chess. Everyone plays their piece and those pieces have rules. Chess would be no fun if one side solely consisted of queens and a king. Every piece has their turn to play, every move equals the decisions the characters make and thus this leaves certain people or "Pieces" people to act. Freedom of role play threatens that because I have no reservation people will use this to create cure-all magics with no restrictions and infinite instantly workable solutions. If someone wants to role play a six foot tall spanish monster, why does it fit in our world? At what point did Spanish become a necessary or splinter language? Why should it exist, and how does this influence everyone else? These questions must through LM's minds when passed in front of them. These rules like mech standard tried very much to rectify this issue, a issue the LM's were having a insurmountable obstacle to overcome. I can personally provide a situation were a LM gave out a piece of a staff and without consideration inadvertently gave a cure-all piece. I don't see the reason your character needs super special traits. I could go, no doubt in my mind pick up a human or a high elf right now and find a way to spark interest in some manner to people like calling them "Tidddles Lenniel'tahrran chirr'ignaesae maehr'luerlent" and then refusing to speak anything but elven and portray myself as increadibly well read to anyone who understood. Heck, people would be very curious about a character like that. Just trying to work to understand them would generate good roleplay by linking further interactions. A quirky character, a individual unique sparkle that really stands out does not need freedom of role playable concepts. The tools we have are ten times as expansive as the real world. This is why lore is voted on. People will make these cure-all pieces regardless of other peoples roleplay in a bid to make their character relevant. What really makes characters relevant is to go out and explore the world. No matter how free your roleplay is, it will be stagnant if you found yourself limitless.

If a forest dwarf attempts it, it should have to be done with cider instead. Other than that, its just a +1 for a interesting form of clerical healing. Reminds me a lot of Eldathyn from D&D.

URGUANIAAAAA! Needs you Cyndikate! Our professional short society invites all who are interested!

"Are yew' 'ah bloodeh' 'igh elf ye' clutz ye' wantte' build 'ah towah tha' looms ovah laik 'ah gian' n' terrible lookin' object." "More importantleh! Whats te' towah fur'?! 'oo's livin' in 'et?!"

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Lori stares at the poster for a long while, reading a small print line. "As much as ye' can drink, nay carry 'eh?" He rubs his chin a troubled expression grows as wrinkles form over his forehead. He can drink more than he can carry...

~=+ An Assembly of Dwarves +=~ The High Prophet comes to stand in front of the lectern, a thick tome bound in leather. He lays it onto the surface, closing his eyes and taking a small breath, and meeting eyes with the flocks of his faithful attendees. “Ladds and Lasses, with the ileviation of the incumberance of living in a constantly dying land, wage war with the other nations of our shared realm and having to actively combat the coward Gazadriel, the Kirkja Dverga shall now be establishing a fully devoted establishment of worship to the Holy Brathmordakin. The halls you stand in now, as you may have guess from the glorious visage of our great gods mounted on the walls, shall be the location. The name for now, is still pending.” After a small complimentary clap he raises a hand for silence before continuing. “We shall also after a long scholarly work considering dwarven tradition and accounts of historical marriages that we can recover, the clergy is currently compiling a codified system of endorsed marriage between man and woman, a service which has often been left to clan tradition. Such a move comes with good reason, we believe we have found a accurate document of how a marriage was performed before the Ironborn rebellion, and such prestige that would come from using their ancient image can not be put amiss. A public release of the document will be announced within the coming stone week, for all interested.” Many male dwarves squeal and squeeze each other in excitement of the news of marriage, the women relent, as is such in a 15 to one population. After a call for silence, he lets out a long breath, and flicks open the leather tome and flicking his eyes over before looking back to the group, and slowly giving a seemingly painful nod. “And finally, a most announcement. I bear a lot of pride in every dwarf. Rare to do dwarves commit to such courage to sacrifice their all for us and truly shine as exemplary acts all dwarves should strive to commit. In these moments we see the image of our father Urguan and a commitment to our nation and our people so notable that they shall never be forgotten. "However doing the work of our gods, the preservation of balance between the races has left us with many good Dwedmar, and as such the clergy announces the addition of two brave men to the Hall of Heros." “The first great dwarf to come to great esteem stands as Falent Ireheart, son of Roggar and clansman to myself.” “Falents death to you shall be shrouded, not published, for the dark nature of which the events had occurred and the security concerns they still bear. However, his sacrifice was indeed.. a brave, and noble sacrifice. He died for us all, not his clan or his own honour in a bid for Dungrimms favour. While the shroud of time will all but forget the action he committed his commitment to the sons of Daughters of Urguan his valour shall not. I hope to assure this.” “Two long years…” He remarks, slowly shaking his head. He swallows forcefully before turning the page and addressing the crowd again. “The second to be announced as one of our great heroes shall be Hiebe Irongut. Long time father to the clan Irongut, this dwarf taught many in the ways of both being a dwarf, and of magic. Once a king, and once more even an ascended, Hiebe served the kingdom time and time again, going so far as to even propose changes to the articles. Now finally, he has made the ultimate sacrifice, allowing himself to be born again of stone and remain vigilant to protect the faith and the honour of the dwarven people.” He slowly nods, taking the tomb and adjusting it, “And lastly, Dizzy Irongrinder. Dizzy has been a good mate to me, for sure. More so however, he has been a exemplar son of Urguan. He has successfully lead a kingdom, recovered the Arkenstone and The Crown of Urguan as well as developing and recovering our ancient arts. He is the smith of our time however. His long standing achievement being primarily that. He has single handedly crafted masterwork items for the Kingdom's efforts and continues to fuel the progress of the nation. For this, Dizzy Irongrinder is named a hero in Yemekars arts.” After a long round of applause, the dwarf in question standing and giving a small wave before being carried out by his clansmen threatening him with a boozing and the flowing out of the rest of the assembly a lone dwarf stands at the top of the Lectern. He still needs a house Onar.

I have a really good suggestion, leave the Snelves in Thales. Is this place not a paradise, cold weather and all that? Surely you could interpret Gazadriel as giving you a new beginning? Your race is hunted and your people exterminated on the spot. There is no hope for your existence in any manner and I would bear no surprise that the pressure from that fact may end up turning you away from the server, and while you get a lot of OOC hate you will lose that labeling and reception from everyone soon. I know you like your Snow Elf characters, but personally if I really liked my character, I would much rather put them down in a land where they can genuinely say they found a home fit for them then be hounded and murdered for the rest of eternity.

Lori Ireheart, High Prophet, reads through the document and with finding no major issues or conflicts with the standing articles signs the document.

Elrolas Hawksong remembers he was the first one to kill a snelf, a proud moment indeed. Lori also approves, snelves literally antagonized everyone they could and acted like a spoiled child in diplomacy and quite literally declared war on the entire server at one point. ​Good riddance

Lori just wonders why it is so hard for them to be punished with getting a couple stacks of wood and some carts of iron.

No clan has a issue with odd offshoots from ancient times who are bastards. The Irongrinders are a vague and funny clan of off-shoots.

Kaun, how does this even effect you? Regardless, many clans who claim pureblood will not want the magic, legitimately 95% of the dwarven playerbase has no void magic. Only Ironguts and their relatives do. They all are fine with this. So yes Kaun, its a way for these new dwarves who apparently so badly want magic. (though no-one has met them yet.)

Bipolar juice, simply speaking they would be a irongut by blood, a long forgotten bastard child of sorts. They wouldn't actually be in the clan. Thats generally how its been played for a long time. Most clans "re-discover" their old members who happened to be someone's bastard. And they can be further back and multiple generations away from the true clan. Thus, they don't diminish the name of the clan. Then again, we have never met any of these "New dwarves" wanting magic with such a huge issue. I would love to inquire who they are?

Quotes arn't working for me.. But yes Soresan, they can.

Well, it has been roleplayed forever Soresan, its part of their clan identity. They can yet again, just say their great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather was a Irongut, which justifies their use of magic.

Supremacy, past the appeasement tactic, does that mean you endorse the concept that Irongut blood is required in a dwarf to use void magic?