Removal Of My Warclaim Rules

[Lago 2572]

I wrote the current warclaim rules with the nation leaders of a while back. They were designed to give a baseline, structure to larger wars and inhibit drama by forcing both sides to hammer out the details beforehand. They were also never truly finished, but they ended up on Danny's desk somehow and here we are.

I am suggesting their removal because they have never been used. They have never been followed. Neither the staff nor the players use or care about them. I strongly suspect several of the people posting warclaims have never even read them, they just use the old unofficial warclaim system (there hasn't been an official warclaim system or war system since Asulon). This lack of use makes them completely pointless, and I am sick of the complaints about them when nobody has ever used them. That's right, we have no idea how they work in practice because they haven't been used once so complaining about them in practice is like saying 2058 was a crap year.

The admins need to decide if they want to use these warclaim rules, in which case they need to enforce their use over than the ad hoc warclaim system that so far has destroyed a grand total of four server communities, or if they don't, in which case they need to remove what is then redundant text from the server rules.

There's no point in rules nobody follows. Either keep and use them, or get rid of them.

[Cyndikate 2303]

How about we scrap the warclaim nonsense period? Our veterans didn't have warclaims back in the old days and neither should we.

[empirerebel 305]

How about we scrap the warclaim nonsense period? Our veterans didn't have warclaims back in the old days and neither should we.

This.

[VonEbs 1224]

Warclaims are definitely needed. You might think we did not have them back in Aegis, however it was unthinkable to attack a capital city, there were fewer villains, all the jazz. We need to use a system and stick to it. Throwing away the restrictions will just cause more chaos.

[Lago 2572]

How about we scrap the warclaim nonsense period? Our veterans didn't have warclaims back in the old days and neither should we.

 

That would constitute removal, which is simply restating what I said.

Of course, if we simply removed the warclaim rules, people would revert to the Unofficial Warclaims. Every war between Asulon and a few months back has been fought with "warclaim nonsense removed". Players make warclaims whether warclaims are a thing or not, and more often than not villify and bully any group that refuses them, akin to coercing someone to sign a contract. To create the situation you are referring to, the staff would need to not only remove the war rules but to stamp out warclaims and conquest as well.

[Wavejammers 328]

This will never end well. :(

[Cyndikate 2303]

Warclaims are definitely needed. You might think we did not have them back in Aegis, however it was unthinkable to attack a capital city, there were fewer villains, all the jazz. We need to use a system and stick to it. Throwing away the restrictions will just cause more chaos.

Then YOU as a nation leader needs to do something about it. Gather stronger soldiers, more active guards, build better walls, etc. Do something to deal with your frequent attacks.

 

We need to teach our community to deal with matters in game instead of crying on the forums.

[VonEbs 1224]

Then YOU as a nation leader needs to do something about it. Gather stronger soldiers, more active guards, build better walls, etc. Do something to deal with your frequent attacks.

 

We need to teach our community to deal with matters in game instead of crying on the forums.

 

How about I don't? How about I get to enjoy myself on the server without some crappy villain trying to force their violent rp on me? That would be the best Christmas present ever.

[5678 260]

How about I don't? How about I get to enjoy myself on the server without some crappy villain trying to force their violent rp on me? That would be the best Christmas present ever.

Tough ****. Don't expect what you want to fall on your lap, you gotta work for it. If someone is a crappy villain, talk to them. If not, build a wall and have a gate to keep the guy out. You, and Malinor in general, is doing nothing at all to stop this "pandemic" that you're always complaining about. 

[empirerebel 305]

How about I don't? How about I get to enjoy myself on the server without some crappy villain trying to force their violent rp on me? That would be the best Christmas present ever.

 

That's your fault, if you see crappy villainous roleplay you report it instead of being awkwardly passive aggressive and using it as an argument for whatever you're advocating for. 

[Cyndikate 2303]

Tough ****. Don't expect what you want to fall on your lap, you gotta work for it. If someone is a crappy villain, talk to them. If not, build a wall and have a gate to keep the guy out. You, and Malinor in general, is doing nothing at all to stop this "pandemic" that you're always complaining about. 

I have to agree on this one, despite Malinor actually improving.

 

Don't be a nation leader if you can't handle the responsibility.

[VonEbs 1224]

I can't do anything about crappy players. A lot of you guys can't rp and are so immature I wonder if you can cross the street by yourself. Many gravitate to Malinor because we are not strong enough to do anything about you. I guess we aren't. But don't expect me to like you or rp with you. I have been in Malinor for over 2 years. Edgies come, screw their cousins, kill their mentors, and go inactive or get banished. I keep on keeping on. You are not stronger than me. I am here to endure.

[empirerebel 305]

I can't do anything about crappy players. A lot of you guys can't rp and are so immature I wonder if you can cross the street by yourself. Many gravitate to Malinor because we are not strong enough to do anything about you. I guess we aren't. But don't expect me to like you or rp with you. I have been in Malinor for over 2 years. Edgies come, screw their cousins, kill their mentors, and go inactive or get banished. I keep on keeping on. You are not stronger than me. I am here to endure.

Was that aimed at me? That was pretty unclear, that whole response, or statement, was pretty weird (In the sense that you acted as if this game was life)

[Lago 2572]

The amount of server cliches in this thread is too damn high.

[VonEbs 1224]

Not exactly at you, mostly at villains on the server in general. If you feel like it is a hit against you though, it probably is.