Arteh 1837 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2015 The Lament for Arkarus After decimating the forces of the Rebellion, Augustus de Sola marches the loyalist men towards Barrowyck for a siege. The loyalists stay ready in their encampment near Brelus, preparing for the siege. A pig roasts in the middle of the camp as the Generals of Olivier de Savoie and the Lord Marshal stand around a table with a very detailed map resting in the middle. Several candles burn within the camp as two guards stand attentively outside. Clanging of hammers and the chopping of trees can be heard in ambience throughout the encampment. Outside the camp, a small band of riders prepared and covered themselves in dark cloaks. They rode out in the cover of darkness, swiftly as one can through such thick forests. The scouts rode to Barrowyck to assess the lands, the defenses, the availability of water. Lord Marshal Augustus de Sola runs his fingers down the map as he indicates the point of attack and from where they would launch their siege. The barbarism and treachery of the Vladovs would not go unpunished. Awaiting the return of the scouts to plan his next move. Type of battle: Siege/Conquest Time: Saturday, 10pm GMT 5pm EST - 22/08/15 (A week after the Field Battle as agreed upon) Attacking force: Loyalists and their allies Defending force: Rebels and their allies Location and boundaries: Barrowyck castle and surrounding lands to establish siege-camp. The main point of fighting would be Barrowyck castle. Excluding tunnels/underground settlements. Direct Area: Surrounding area of battle field for reference: Terms of Victory Victory for Oren: Major Majority of Defenders pushed away/retreated/killed. Victory for Rebels: Major Majority of Attackers pushed away/retreated/killed. Rewards If the attackers win: They shall be control the region of Barrowyck County and the castle. If defenders win: The area will not be war-claimable for a time chosen by a GM. Rules -Server Rules -No fake statuses -No returning to battle -No Potions/Gapples -No altering of the terrain within the short time provided. -No making of excessive or unrealistic amount of defenses. No great walls. As no progress on any form of defenses have been made by Barrowyck thus far. -Once the castle is successfully besieged, hiding in tunnels and such would be considered a term of victory as the defenders are pushed away. 39 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner 775 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Reminder for everyone, please do not post if you're none of the above. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandan 1452 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Once again I'd push for myself and Slic3man to be the Global Moderator's overseeing this over the coming week, if either side holds a problem based upon the prior actions then I ask you state so now. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireheart 2777 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Location and boundaries: I request that the wording be changed in the third sentence to “Excluding all components of the settlement below ground level.” This would clarify the wording to make it more understandable considering the landscape of Barrowyk. It would also restrict the lower levels of Barrowyk from being used to support the existing statement already. It is not meant to draw an advantage to the defending side. Rewards: Reward for attackers will not be the region. The region will be cut out of the existing region considering Brelus resides in the same region. It will be between you and the GM(s) overseeing the war claim to create that region. Region name is humanduchys. Rules: I am sure this is where most disagreement will lie, but I will ask that the rule regarding no terrain altercation be removed. If you require reasoning I may provide upon request. For the rule right below regarding unrealistic amounts of defenses, I would request that excessive be removed from the sentence as it goes against RP reasoning. Reasoning ties in the same way and I will explain it in further depth if there is confusion. However, if there is concerns about excessive unrealistic defenses, then by all means clarify and reword the rule with my approval afterwards. Besides that, it is all I request be added or changed in the war claim rules. I will allow Ark to add in any comments and also participate in the communication between Gm(s), you, and myself. I do not see any reasoning in carrying this out on forums thus I am open to using Skype as a platform for communication. If you desire to keep it strictly to the forums I will not protest it. Good luck and have fun. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arteh 1837 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 1) Underground settlements or tunnels or killboxes will not be included in the Warclaim. This includes the tunnel stretching from Barrowyck to Brelus. We're sieging the castle itself, once the castle falls, it becomes transparent that your forces are not capable of sustaining the siege. 2) I wasn't aware that it was all one region. If there is no seperate Barrowyck/Vladov region then the County of Barrowyck is what will be granted to the victors. Thus stripping you of your title and holding. 3) I do require reasoning, and terraforming on an excessive level. You making trenches or a moat to a certain degree is fine. It's just that doing so in a very unrealistic and ridiculous amount is what I am saying should not be allowed. Regarding defences, well, a great wall cannot be erected within 5 days or such ridiculous defences that entirely ruin the purpose of the siege. That is all what I am saying. It is not really possible for you to make defences that would RPly take an incredibly long time to make in a short period of time. It's like what we did with Peremont. The wall was started over two weeks ago and it still isn't fully complete. Nor are the defences, now as a siege is imminent it would mean you guys would do your absolute best in ensuring that the place is as defendable as possible. What I am saying though is that making ridiculous and unrealistic defences in an abundance throughout your whole keep is not only UN-RP but very transparent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireheart 2777 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The two last points you made are fine with the third one being given to the GM as a verdict to divide what is realistic or not. As far as reasoning for three allow me to explain. in the creation of these defenses it would become relevant as the war moves forward and a growing possibly of an attack on such a settlement could come to reality due to the previous battle. Thus defenses have been added to Barrowyk as the attacking side has done to their own settlements. If you require further reasoning I would disagree and ask for a GM to verdict it. As far as point one is concerned the actual settlement of Barrowyk is divided into two parts. There is a part of Barrowyk that will remain out of the war claim which is the storage sector and everything below ground level. Ground level not referring to the plateau's ground level, but the ground level around the holding. The reason why I ask for clarification on the wording of the rule is due to the fact that the settlement is raised up from the ground level around its near by area surrounding the fortified manor. Part of the actual settlement actually dips inside the plateau which is why I ask the wording to be changed. I'm not asking the attacking forces to go into the underground of Barrowyk, but there are components of the fortified manor that are, as your current rule would verdict it as, 'underground.' That is only due to the plateau which is why I ask for it to be reworded. I believe what you're asking for is clarified in that statement, but if not I can also provide a few screenshots to further explain it. I do not want a battle to be deemed over though just because we reside inside the actual building. Besides that I believe all points were made with a reply to the reply. Ark and you can work out any other details that he might have concerns with as I have heard you two have been speaking. If you are not content with anything I stated please either reach out to me on Skype or leave a reply to the topic. I will get back to you as quickly as possible. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arteh 1837 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yeah we've ironed out most details in the skype convo with the GMs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandan 1452 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Warclaim completed with Oren victory, they're now owners of the Barrowyk region. I shall also note I will no longer be participating in warclaims within this war. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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