Thomas 3014 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Hello there So, for a while now the Team has been working on maintaining and updating the Wiki by the single-handed (Or I suppose multiple-handed) use of the Wiki Team. Updating the Wiki was, and still is, a big task. Lord of the Craft has years and years of information that need to be sorted through, updated and posted up on the Wiki and for a team of just about 15 people tops, this was a very difficult feat. In the previous month, we've been looking into the suggestions you've all made and, with a lot of internal discussing, have decided upon making the following changes to the Wiki Team, and the Wiki, which I'm hoping you'll all enjoy. The Wiki Itself So the Wiki is going to be opened up to the Players, just as I've mentioned before. We've opted to allowing any player to create a Wiki Account and just go ham on updating information as and when they please. You won't need staff approval to make a Wiki Account, and you'll have, essentially, free reign over what you want to edit. To summarise the changes, I will make a bullet list below: Players can now acquire or create a Wiki Account Players can now edit and create Wiki pages Players can now be more directly involved with the way the Wiki is being updated We will, however, be sectioning off parts of the Wiki in which players will not be able to edit. We will do this by 'protecting' the pages, and the members of the Wiki Team will be the only ones able to edit said pages. Those pages will include the following: The Main Page Quintessential pages surrounding core/important Lore Team created Lore Pages regarding Staff Teams Rule pages Plugin pages We will be doing this to further allow for the Wiki to be continuously updated with information that the Players can provide, though there will be some limitations which ensure that the pages which require Staff input, do indeed get that Staff input. The Wiki Team As for changes to the Wiki Team, we will be restructuring what the Wiki Team is, and what the Wiki Team does. For instance, in the past they were the sole authority over what was created, and how the Wiki was run. This is no longer the case, and instead of being the creators of content, the Wiki Moderators will do exactly what their title suggests; moderate. The Wiki Team will be in charge of ensuring that the content that is posted up onto the Wiki is appropriate, and correctly formatted to ensure that the Wiki looks neat and tidy should the content creator be unaware of how to format MediaWiki and so forth. Any Lore or Magic pages that we go to create will be worked on with the help of the LT and MAT for specific pages. There are a few more changes that I'll quickly list here: The Wiki Contributor system has been abolished, as now all Players are technically Wiki Contributors. Wiki Contests will be seeing a return, however in a more modular sense We will be looking for more Wiki Moderators, and any preexisting Contributor in the previous system will be promoted to members of the Wiki Team, should they wish to remain a member The Rules So, the reason the Wiki isn't open right now is because last time we open it up, we had a massive influx of bots and shitposting that really wasn't appropriate for the Wiki, and due to that we closed it off. We will open it up again on the condition that the Players accept the ability to do this, and act maturely. Anyone who goes out there and abuses this ability will face consequences, just as you would with the Forum or In-Game. Your account will be blocked on the Wiki, and you can possibly face further punishments in game if the rule break is bad enough. The following rules will be put in place: Any shitposting will result in punishment Bombardment of bots will face heavy punishment Posting bias or incorrect information can result in correction of work, unless the page being written is considered Player Lore, and is clearly marked as an opinionated piece. You don't have to worry terribly about formatting any pages, we will work on that Inappropriate content, such as sexist, racist, derogatory, pornographic, will not be accepted and you will face punishment Trolly content will not be accepted. TL;DR Wiki opened up Bad content will be removed Good content is good Wiki Contests coming back Do note: due to Tythus not being around (I'm trying to get him to open up the Wiki), you're not able to make your own account. Due to this, Wiki Team members can and will make your Wiki account. All you need to do is contact a member of the Wiki, and we'll set you up with an account until Tythus has opened it up fully. As soon as Tythus opens it all up, you'll be able to post your own content. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. - Thomas Wiki Team Director 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weabootrash 412 Share Posted September 21, 2016 first maybe this will work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stag 3231 Share Posted September 21, 2016 No offense but this is a terrible idea. It's great to want to trust the community but it is going to bite you in the ass. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weabootrash 412 Share Posted September 21, 2016 give me 3 personas now please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky 0 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Now with you lead, will you be spearheading the fixation of the Wikipedia from it's horrid current state? I mean, the clear answer is yes, and I'd expect you to say that but please, fix it. Change things that aren't uniform, why do things like; Have fun, hip and unique pictures, or none at all when we have things like this; Aren't those pictures super awesome, and wowser!? Lets be honest here, keep things uniform like a proper wiki, and avoid useless eyecandy. Oh and fix pages that are important and yet, look like this; Tahmas, will you respond to me on this personally, please? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkaken 516 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Is this stuff that's already been done or stuff that will be done? Sorry if this has already been said, I'm a moron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas 3014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just now, Sky said: Tahmas, will you respond to me on this personally, please? Of course. The Main Page will be seeing an entire restructure soon. I, and the Managers (once they've been chosen), will be working on a small mock up image with an art program of where things should be, etc etc and I'll likely then throw it into the Feedback Group chat and see what people think. From there we'll actually sit down and write up the HTML code for it for the Wiki front page. With Tofuus on the Team, I'll likely be poking him about some things and things like the map and a few plugins might find their way onto the Wiki (If Tythus is able to put them on). Pages that are important to the Lore will be worked on by the Wiki Team still, they aren't prevented from working on pages if they wish to. I'll be talking to Tsuyose and the Lore Team at some point (After I'm done with this CK2 Game, relaxing after a long day) and we'll start to actually update the pages which are updated here on the Forums. We'll be looking for a more quality and formed system of putting information across, and less of the flashy and in your face imagery. Just now, Merkaken said: Is this stuff that's already been done or stuff that will be done? Sorry if this has already been said, I'm a moron It's sort of both. We're waiting on Tythus to make it automated, but all of this is possible now and has been done. If you want to make an account and get working on the Wiki, you can, you just have to ask any member of the Wiki Team to make your account for you as Tythus hasn't enabled the ability for you to do so for yourself just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkaken 516 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just now, Tahmas said: -snip- Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonslayerelf 654 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Tahmas said: Players can now acquire or create a Wiki Account Players can now edit and create Wiki pages Players can now be more directly involved with the way the Wiki is being updated Can we put a LoTC-time limit on it? IE Old Farts can edit the wiki, but brand new members can't? I can see this spiraling down into all of the newer players creating wiki pages for themselves, editing themselves into history to seem more important, etc, and while I know many of the more senior members won't do this, I have little faith in those who are recently accepted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas 3014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just now, Dragonslayerelf said: Can we put a LoTC-time limit on it? IE Old Farts can edit the wiki, but brand new members can't? I can see this spiraling down into all of the newer players creating wiki pages for themselves, editing themselves into history to seem more important, etc, and while I know many of the more senior members won't do this, I have little faith in those who are recently accepted. The Wiki Team will be watching over the content that people post up on the Wiki regardless, but I'll likely instate that you need to be a player on the server for a Month before you can edit anything. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone 869 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I would suggest making it so magic pages can only be edited by certain people as well just to avoid any possible misunderstandings since that could be rather damaging. Or perhaps having mat members look those pages over every so often to make sure its correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Evocation 3728 Share Posted September 21, 2016 So now the players can fix the wiki while the mods, well, moderate it. So its like the real wiki? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas 3014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Aelsioln said: I would suggest making it so magic pages can only be edited by certain people as well just to avoid any possible misunderstandings since that could be rather damaging. Or perhaps having mat members look those pages over every so often to make sure its correct. Already done c; WT will be working alongside members of the LT and MAT when working on Magic or important Lore pages. Just now, Tox said: So now the players can fix the wiki while the mods, well, moderate it. So its like the real wiki? Just like a real wiki. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Evocation 3728 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just now, Tahmas said: Just like a real wiki. A great idea Tahmas, will I have to make an account or will I be able to edit with out one, and if I have to how do I do so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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